Mariners Squad - HAL 13 - 2017- 2018

[Ozhammer]

He has dual citizenship.View attachment 861

Better not run for parliament then......

 

[Forum Phoenix]

I think we've got one more coming in the front third. I'm not sure but i think it's going to happen. We spoke about and were told about a marquee early in pre season and there was a cryptic facebook message from ccmfc buried in the replies of the wout release that may have alluded to a marquee. Or it may have just been my eyes saw want they wanted to see. Who knows. BUT, my money is on the "its not finished yet" box.

My reason for it? The squad just doesn't look balanced to me and after the work that PO has done I dont think he'd leave it without all players having direct competition for a place and im not sure that they all do

If I was Okon I'd still want another striker.

As I understand it, the osteitis pubis flared up pretty soon after joining Roda, and they ended up cutting short the loan because of it. That said, I don't think we need to be too worried about it. I know he's worked with some genuine specialists and has a training program designed to manage it for the rest of his career. I think this played a big role in convincing him to sign for us as well, as Okon is very big on injury prevention, management, and sports science and has his own experience of mismanaged injuries.

Thanks wooly, great post.

 

[Big Al]

Sound crazy but I think he would make a decent left back.

Don't think he has the engine. Fullbacks cover the most ground these days and need to be your fittest players. PO said he wasn't fit enough for the midfield.

Can't see it happening but would be a logical position if he could handle it.

If we played a back 3 then yes. But we probably won't

Think he will get the spot next to Baro to start the season

 

[Insertnamehere]

Don't think he has the engine. Fullbacks cover the most ground these days and need to be your fittest players. PO said he wasn't fit enough for the midfield.

Can't see it happening but would be a logical position if he could handle it.

If we played a back 3 then yes. But we probably won't

Think he will get the spot next to Baro to start the season

There's no physical reason he can't play left back. If he's committed he could easily build his fitness across the off season and preseason. This doesn't have the engine thing is a bit of a furfy. It's all down to planning and programming.

 

[Ozhammer]

Sound crazy but I think he would make a decent left back.

I don't see Liam as a left back tbh. For mine LB is a specialist position and you really do need a certain type of player to fill it, preferably one who is left-footed for starters (Galloway never truly convinced me tbh given that he was actually a right-footer). Rose Snr will likely be the starting LB and we have cover in both Rowles and Golec, so Liam's battle will be to secure a spot within the midfield, which will seemingly be a tough one.

Apart from having another striking option, the only thing that worries me with our current squad is the fact the we don't have a genuine leftie in the front third for true balance. It is always a compromise playing a right-rooter on that side of the field (and vice versa), as we have seen over the past few seasons. Pain was a little underwhelming last season imho and really needs to show that he can deservingly earn a starting spot in this campaign or he may find himself on the pine too.

I guess the above is a sign of how far we have come in the off season that we are speaking in these terms and in truth it is a nice problem to have in some ways.

 

[Gratis]

I really do think that early on last season teams worked out Pain was one of our key threats and marked him out of the game. Defences will have to spread now giving him more freedom - my guess is he will have a much better season this time around

 

[nebakke]

If I was Okon I'd still want another striker.

You don't think three is enough?

 

[pjennings]

I think one of the concerns with the strikers is that no-one has seen Powell apparently because of injury for months. Given Okon's stated position that we will leave one position open for the January window we are effectively at a full squad.

One way we may go is if Powell has a long term injury is that we can get an injury replacement until the January window. At that time Paolo can decide where, if anywhere, we need strengthening for the run into the finals.

 

[nebakke]

I think one of the concerns with the strikers is that no-one has seen Powell apparently because of injury for months. Given Okon's stated position that we will leave one position open for the January window we are effectively at a full squad.

One way we may go is if Powell has a long term injury is that we can get an injury replacement until the January window. At that time Paolo can decide where, if anywhere, we need strengthening for the run into the finals.

Yeah, I get that... I'd be quite fine with the injury replacement, but I get a bit concerned that, given our constraints - financially and in terms of team spots - we already have quite a bit of coverage in that spot and while neither have set the league on fire, both Bingers and Powell have shown to at a minimum be reasonable squaddies in that spot.
As it stands, assuming Ass... Asd... Spanish dude, is serviceable, I'm pretty happy to have him starting and Bingers backing him up... We all seem to agree that Bingers has potential - how is he ever supposed to live up to that if he doesn't get some decent game time at some point?

I keep seeing all of these comments on other forums, about A-league clubs not promoting enough NPL players, going for journeyman players etc... But then, when clubs sign NPL players, it's always met with a barrage of comments about how it's just not good enough and how the league should be past that etc. etc. - unless they're Danny Choi grade... It feels a bit like either everyone's happy to try out NPL players, as long as it's not at their club, or noone seem to really actually have a vision for how we bridge the gap from NPL to A-league.

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[MagpieMariner]

Can you not pound your keyboard mate......it's just wrong.

My keyboard likes it, it's really into that stuff.

 

[midfielder]

Appreciate streams of the ffa cupmatch as I am overseas

 

[Ancient Mariner]

There's no physical reason he can't play left back. If he's committed he could easily build his fitness across the off season and preseason. This doesn't have the engine thing is a bit of a furfy. It's all down to planning and programming.

I would not be surprised seeing him alongside Baro as a starting centre back.

 

[Spacks]

Appreciate streams of the ffa cupmatch as I am overseas

https://soccerstreams.net/streams/2...ty-demons_vs_australia-central-coast-mariners

 

[Ozhammer]

Wow, what a waste of the journey down to Blacktown! That loss rests squarely on Okon's shoulders. No subs until 85 minutes, when we had lost the momentum at 65 minutes. I'd love to know which coaching manual that comes out of...... Not happy

 

[Wombat]

Appreciate streams of the ffa cupmatch as I am overseas

Hopefully you missed it Middy. We were shit.

 

[geoffgfletch]

Its only early but some of our players tonight were not up to npl standard. Good opportunities for squadies to impress but failed. Rather embarrassing result. Tom looked good as did DDS when he got on.

 

[Coastalraider]

It's simple really -

New players=good
Old players =bad.

With the addition of Glover, Brama, DDS for more than 2 touches, and Asdrubal we should be significantly improved. There are still 2 months until the league starts, so it's not the end of the world. Also that must be the strongest non-A-League club at the moment at the peak of their season - couldn't we have got an easy team like darwin!!

My main concern is that if we have many injuries to our recruits this year, we have the same old junk as depth. McGing, Bingers and Pearce looked a step too low tonight.

 

[BaysideMariner]

Wow, what a waste of the journey down to Blacktown! That loss rests squarely on Okon's shoulders. No subs until 85 minutes, when we had lost the momentum at 65 minutes. I'd love to know which coaching manual that comes out of...... Not happy

Why is it that everyone else can see that we need fresh players during the game except the Gaffer?

 

[scottmac]

It's simple really -

New players=good
Old players =bad.

With the addition of Glover, Brama, DDS for more than 2 touches, and Asdrubal we should be significantly improved. There are still 2 months until the league starts, so it's not the end of the world. Also that must be the strongest non-A-League club at the moment at the peak of their season - couldn't we have got an easy team like darwin!!

My main concern is that if we have many injuries to our recruits this year, we have the same old junk as depth. McGing, Bingers and Pearce looked a step too low tonight.

Fair summary

 

[scoober]

Not real worried or concerned about tonight. Early preseason, squaddies starting, plastic shitty pitch but some poor defence (1st and 3rd).
I watched Perth and WSW v NIX last night and they both would have lost easily to Blacktown, they were utter rubbish. It shows that match fitness and match situations (playing alongside another) counts for a lot.
Please don't mention Sydney, any local MPL side could have beat Darwin