Mariners Squad - HAL 12 - 2016 - 2017

[JoyfulPenguin]

Bradden Inman to Peterborough United

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Necevski’s first week as a Mariner

Ivan Necevski in action against Tottenham Hotspur in 2015
Thursday, 23 June 2016-
@CCMariners
Goalkeeping recruit, Ivan Necevski has completed his first week of pre-season with the Central Coast Mariners and we caught up with him at the Centre of Excellence to find out how he’s settling in.
Necevski arrives on the Central Coast from Sydney FC with a wealth of experience in the Hyundai A-League and hopes that he can act as a mentor both on and off the pitch for his younger teammates.

“My first week has been great and I am looking forward to my new challenge,” Necevski said. “There’s a great bunch of boys here so I’m sure we will be able to work together and be successful.

“I’ve known Nashy for a long time, we played state league against each other over 10 years ago as well as his spell at Sydney FC as a player so I am really looking forward to working with him.

“I wasn’t originally looking to keep playing in the A-League but when Nashy mentioned that the Club was looking for some experience and leadership and what the club proposed was very interesting and exciting so I see this as a great challenge for me.

“I’m still young in keeper’s terms, I think I can bring a lot of leadership and experience to the side. I’ve been playing in the A-League for the past 10 years and the young goalkeepers here are at a great standard so I’ll need to keep up with them.

“I think healthy competition is accepted all over the field, there’s going to be players that are competing against each other for one position over the weekend so that competition will bring the best out in everyone.

“What happened here last season was unfortunate, the Mariners have always been one of the most successful clubs in the A-League and that’s the level we want to be at.

Connor Pain, Mickael Tavares & Jacques Faty will report to Central Coast Mariners’ pre-season next week to commence their preparations for Hyundai A-League season 12.

Lil bit o' sauce: http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/necevskis-first-week-as-a-mariner/13ksakwuckzyn1a7gpv1fh28p0

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Little fluff interview with Connor Pain:
https://twitter.com/meredith_gibbs/status/747619812348563456

 

[Rowdy]

I’ve been playing in the A-League for the past 10 years

"Playing"
Bwaaaahahaha ........... .

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Mariners take two on trial


Forwards Kwabena Appiah and Max Burgess have gone on trial at the Central Coast Mariners.

Both have A-League experience and both have joined Mariners in their pre-season training.

Appiah, who made his A-League debut with Western Sydney, left Wellington Phoenix at the end of the 2015/2016 season at the completion of his contract.

The 24-year old previously played for the Mariners NYL side, where he was coached by current Central Coast boss Tony Walmsley.

Burgess came through the youth ranks at Sydney FC.

He made his A-League debut for the Sky Blues in 2014, before joining Newcastle early last year.

The 21-year old rejoined Sydney FC in 2015.

Masterfood Quality Sauce: http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/mariners-take-two-trial

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Mariners take two on trial


Forwards Kwabena Appiah and Max Burgess have gone on trial at the Central Coast Mariners.

Both have A-League experience and both have joined Mariners in their pre-season training.

Appiah, who made his A-League debut with Western Sydney, left Wellington Phoenix at the end of the 2015/2016 season at the completion of his contract.

The 24-year old previously played for the Mariners NYL side, where he was coached by current Central Coast boss Tony Walmsley.

Burgess came through the youth ranks at Sydney FC.

He made his A-League debut for the Sky Blues in 2014, before joining Newcastle early last year.

The 21-year old rejoined Sydney FC in 2015.

Masterfood Quality Sauce: http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/mariners-take-two-trial

Appiah could be decent though most Wanderers/Phoenix fans I have seen comment on him don't think to highly of him. Burgess would be great though seemed up to scratch in the games I have seen him in.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

We have two spots left in the squad (if Berry, Adelson and Heward-Belle are on NYL contracts) it looks like we will be signing one of Kwabena Appiah-Kubi and Max Burgess which is slightly puzzling as we have Trent Buhagiar, Matthew Fletcher, Jake Adelson, Bradley McDonald, Josh Bingham, Lachlan Wales and Storm Roux available as back up to Ferriera. Even more so that we are potentially spending a wage on a player in a position we have a plethora of options and not using those funds to secure a quality number 10. Burgess and Appiah-Kubi are hardly much better than our current stock any how, both have never scored in the A-League and have a handful of actual starts between them. We lack a number 10, a back up number 10 and a back up left winger. If this isn't rectified quickly and effectively I'm afraid we will have another season like last year.

 

[pjennings]

I have 22 on contract, (19 if you count Berry, Adelson and Heward-Belle as young players outside the squad limit and cap). Those 19 I guestimate as being on $2million. I think we need a starting CB, a starting #10, a backup #10 and possibly a young striker. I can't see us getting that for $340,000.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

I have 22 on contract, (19 if you count Berry, Adelson and Heward-Belle as young players outside the squad limit and cap). Those 19 I guestimate as being on $2million. I think we need a starting CB, a starting #10, a backup #10 and possibly a young striker. I can't see us getting that for $340,000.

I don't think there is any hope for another starting centre back sadly. Nikas/Dugandzic on $51000 and then another $51000 on a left sided utility player. Then we're left with $238000 for a quality number 10...
Please Mr Charlesworth sir can we have some more?

 

[pjennings]

I have 22 on contract, (19 if you count Berry, Adelson and Heward-Belle as young players outside the squad limit and cap). Those 19 I guestimate as being on $2million. I think we need a starting CB, a starting #10, a backup #10 and possibly a young striker. I can't see us getting that for $340,000.

I don't think there is any hope for another starting centre back sadly. Nikas/Dugandzic on $51000 and then another $51000 on a left sided utility player. Then we're left with $238000 for a quality number 10...
Please Mr Charlesworth sir can we have some more?

Neill, McDonald , Rose, Buhagiar all were employed on the left and we have added Pain. Mate at minimum wage would be a steal - I would expect him to be a bit more expensive than that.

I do not think that Kwabena Appiah-Kubi or Max Burgess are what we are after.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Neill, McDonald , Rose, Buhagiar all were employed on the left and we have added Pain. Mate at minimum wage would be a steal - I would expect him to be a bit more expensive than that.

I do not think that Kwabena Appiah-Kubi or Max Burgess are what we are after.

I don't think Josh Rose can play on the wing or basically anywhere apart from central defence anymore. Mickey Neil is our only real option at left back and Brad McDonald isn't left footed I don't think? He didn't really look up to scratch and wasn't a good enough dribbler nor quick enough to play on his wrong side but maybe after a full pre season. Trent Buhagiar would better suited at right wing by being able to drive to the line. I also think he would develop better if given a consistent role and position not moved around the front three. Mate doesn't seem to have any options other than to go the NPL or become a third choice minimum wage squad player anywhere else in the league.
We can offer him more minutes than anyone else and potentially even a slightly higher wage such as 55,000?

 

[Capt. Awesome]

I thought max squad size was 26. This form Wiki. We meet all the requirements to qualify for a squad of 26.

"An A-League squad must comprise a minimum 20 players with a maximum of 26, subject to several limitations. Within the squad there can be a maximum of five "foreign" or "Visa" players, from outside Australia (and New Zealand, in the case of Wellington Phoenix), that hold a temporary working-visa. Three players in the squad must also be under 20 years of age. In addition to these three under 20 players, clubs are allowed to sign an additional three youth players onto full-time contracts at a lower pay rate than the rest of the squad."

 

[Paolo]

We can offer him more minutes than anyone else and potentially even a slightly higher wage such as 55,000?

min wage for someone aged 20 or over was already $55k last season. Also if you think you cpuld snag someone with 100+ A-League app for min wage you live in a fantasy land

 

[dibo]

The squad is sorta coming together.

Working on the basis of our fairly standard 4-3-3, I get:

1: Izzo/Ivan/THB
2: Roux/Poscoliero/Adelson
3/4: Faty/Poscoliero/Ascroft/McGing/[gap]
5: J.Rose/Neill/McDonald
6: Tavares/Montgomery/McGing
7: Ferreira/Bingham
8: Montgomery/Berry/Neill
9: Roy/Buhagiar/Fletcher
10: L.Rose/[gap]/Fletcher
11: Pain/McDonald/Neill/J.Rose

My first XI is:

Izzo
Roux - Faty - Poscoliero - J.Rose
Montgomery - Tavares
Ferreira ---- L.Rose ----- Pain
Roy​

That starting line-up isn't awful. The first thing to note is that nobody's an unknown quantity. Everyone has spent time as a starter, everyone's played a decent amount of first XI football.

Izzo obviously has to step up between the sticks, or this is the last year he'll ever have a pro contract. It's pretty simple. Necevski will displace him if not, or better yet, THB. It's not like promoting a teenage keeper to the #1 spot has hurt us in the past.

I'm less worried about the back line this year. Posco was great for the most part last year, and there's enough competition now to ensure that someone else steps up. Ascroft and McGing are now well and truly battle-hardened too. Whether they can raise the quality in a better balanced side is up to them. I think Rose will have an easier year in a side that's not a complete shambles too. One more CB wouldn't hurt, but we could live without.

At DM, we've got some good options, between Tavares (who I have been really impressed by) and Monty in a deeper role or McGing in his natural spot. If I'm honest, I'd lean to Tavares then McGing. I'd really like to see this position restored to a 'quarterback' position - controlling distribution and tempo, setting the tone for the team.

Monty should be in 8 - it's his job to (in the words of an old coach of mine) "c**t up the midfield" - make it a horrible place to try to play through, be steaming into challenges and scaring the shit out of opponents. Win the ball and feed it forward if you can, otherwise deliver it to the quarterback. Neill and Berry are other backup options - Neill played there against Wellington (I think?) and did well.

10 is a worry. We're really skinny here. Liam Rose looks good, but It's a lot of weight on his shoulders. I'd *love* to see us pick up Tavares or similar here. This has to be the #1 priority. Fletcher might be able to go there if we're doing away with pretty and going 4-4-2.

At 7, we've got Fab or Bingham. Fab's got to get more involved defensively, or I'd go with Bingham simply because we can do without pretty but we can't do without graft. He's plenty quick and a goal threat too, so he'd suit a countering game. Fletcher's an option here too.

At 11 we've got Pain, but there are also options with McDonald, Neill and even J.Rose.

9 is obviously Roy's, but both Buhagiar and Fletcher are going to see time from the bench I'm sure, and push for a start if Roy's not firing.

 

[Coach]

I think we need to be patient, a player that we can afford and need will appear between now and the start of the season or thereabouts, they always do. If we had waited we could have grabed Jack Duncan instead of the poorly performed Necevski (makes Izzo look like Buffon). The names thrown up here and those on trial are a real worry;

Gallifuoco - just another of these kids with a European passport that went overseas and basically failed. For some reason in Oz we think failure O/S means success here - rubbish. He then came back here and does not set the world on fire, he looked slow and cumbersome in his few starts with MV - a huge NO
Burgess - have to admire his resilance, took NYL contracts when over age to keep his dream alive. We don't need squad players - NO
Appiah - What are we thinking? Attacking player that has played 52 A-League games and has never scored a goal - are we kidding? Would have to leave the gate open at the end of Blue Tonque so he doesn't hurt himself when he runs out of ideas at the bye line, a poor mans Austin (and that is bad)
The NPL players with experience and skill are hard to secure, say like Pani Nikas, its a big ask for an experienced older player to leave employment to chase a dream. I think Nikas is easily A-League material now, the edges have been rounded, but why would he leave. Probably on $1200/game or more. Hard to give up employment and est. $30k from football to earn $55k?

I've said it before we don't need anymore 21 year olds hopeing to make it. Find the right player/s O/S a No.10 and or CB.

 

[Gratis]

My first XI is:

Izzo
Roux - Faty - Poscoliero - J.Rose
Montgomery - Tavares
Ferreira ---- L.Rose ----- Pain
Roy​

My thinking also. I would consider Ivan first but expect you're right in that he's there to push Izzo and provide backup. And honestly in a more stable team I'd like to think he'll do much better for us this year. Here's hoping.
This also shows how much we need a #10. L.Rose needs to be coming on as a sub at 10 to build up, I don't think he can man the role entirely himself yet and certainly not without some kind of back up.
Otherwise this looks a team that can be competitive. Fingers crossed big time that we have few injuries/suspensions because we get thin pretty quick. Though many of the supporting acts did have a hardening year in the forge last season at least.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Ex Victory striker's home comforts on the Coast

Forward Connor Pain during his first training session with the Mariners. Jason Pratt Photography ©
Wednesday, 29 June 2016-
John Greco @Grecs7
It seems adjusting to things off the pitch more so than on it could be the key to success for new Central Coast Mariners signing Connor Pain.
The lightning-quick winger has started training with the Mariners this week after his switch from Hyundai A-League rivals Melbourne Victory at the end of last season.

“It’s a big change for me, moving out of home for the first time…but I’m adjusting well,” said Pain after revealing he’s moved into a place with new teammates Storm Roux and Liam Rose.

“I came up here and I said to the boys straight away, I don’t know how to cook and I don’t know how to clean.

“But they said ‘you’ll fit right in’. So it’s a good start to move in with boys like that.”

While things off the pitch might take some getting used to, it's on it where Pain hopes to make things count in 2016/17.

He heads north having made 53 appearances for Victory since his debut in 2013, but many of those were as a substitute.

Now 22, he feels he is ready to establish himself in the A-League and be an important player for the Mariners.

“I just want to be playing more football. My main aim is to be starting games and playing a lot more than I have been in the last couple of years,” he said.

“And I want to help this club get back to the way it was previously, obviously a big club that has done some wonderful things in the A-League and they want to get back to that.

“[Coach Tony Walmsley] seems like a great guy and someone I can talk too on a regular basis,” he added.

“He wants me to be an attacking-minded player that maybe they have been missing and just to get at players and create chances for the boys up front.”

Pain moved to the Mariners as part of a swap deal that saw Mitch Austin head to Victory.

While admitting there were “a couple of clubs sniffing around", he had no hesitation joining the Mariners believing the club is the “best fit” for him.

This despite the Gosford enduring a horror 2015/16 campaign, winning just three matches and claiming the wooden spoon.

“They obviously didn’t have the best year last year but the only way is up,” Pain believes.

“Through the recruiting as well we’ve got Mickael [Tavares] and Jacques [Faty] coming in, as well as Ivan [Necevski] the goalkeeper.

“And I think there’s a couple more to come as well. It’s exciting times to be here and I’m over the moon.”

Sauce: http://www.a-league.com.au/article/...forts-on-the-coast/16nirqguetrf01j4ojp8bccjqe

 

[Luca Brasi]

If we had waited we could have grabed Jack Duncan

Too much like Izzo imo for our squad, 23 years old and has played 11 senior games in the last 5 seasons.
Despite Necevski's lack of appearances over the past 2 seasons with SFC he still provides the experience of a 36 year old with 48 A League games.
Lack of experience in our back 5 was an ongoing criticism of the squad last year (highlighted by Izzo's brain snap against the scum in the 1st minute).
I can understand the thinking behind the recruitment although underwhelming compared to other possibilities mentioned on this forum.
THB appears to be the young keeper investment with a heap of promise - Australian Goalkeeping coach Tony Franken has described Thomas to be "one of the best young goalkeepers in the world coming through". (wiki)

1: Izzo/Ivan/THB
2: Roux/Poscoliero/Adelson
3/4: Faty/Poscoliero/Ascroft/McGing/[gap]
5: J.Rose/Neill/McDonald
6: Tavares/Montgomery/McGing
7: Ferreira/Bingham
8: Montgomery/Berry/Neill
9: Roy/Buhagiar/Fletcher
10: L.Rose/[gap]/Fletcher
11: Pain/McDonald/Neill/J.Rose

An injury to Faty and we are back to the same back 4 from last season. Although they could do better with a DM structure of Tavares and Monty in front of them, and a years experience behind them. Still think another CB is important.
Both Roux and Adelson are returning from serious injury so questions remain, Adelson was more of a pacy wide midfielder previously rather than a RB.
Be interesting to see if Buhagiar and Berry have developed further after their NPL2 season with CCMA.
I expect a big improvement from Fletcher, returning to the game after a prolonged absence last season, now with a full pre season to get him fit and more mobile.
Liam Rose could have a break out year as #10 in that starting 11 however I agree that another genuine, quality #10 is the top priority.
Still have yet to hear about Monty/Fab citizenship so that would limit our recruiting atm.

 

[midfielder]

Out of left field ...

Our issue is money or lack there of is more apt.

If we doubled our membership and kept the same some game watches as last season our crowd would be somewhere between 14 & 15K.

Say 6 K per match extra over 13 rounds [yes two are not at home] but 13 * 6 = 78K at say $ 200.00 per member... that's close to 1.6 million or more if you add extra shirts sales.

I know its obvious .... but if every existing member on average could bring one new member in theory our issues are solved....

How and what ideas are there to do this ... like we take some responsibility on ourselves ...

OK back to the drugs and booze ...

 

[localpom]

Out of left field ...

Our issue is money or lack there of is more apt.

If we doubled our membership and kept the same some game watches as last season our crowd would be somewhere between 14 & 15K.

Say 6 K per match extra over 13 rounds [yes two are not at home] but 13 * 6 = 78K at say $ 200.00 per member... that's close to 1.6 million or more if you add extra shirts sales.

If every existing member on average could bring one new member in theory our issues are solved....

How and what ideas are there to do this ... like we take some responsibility on ourselves ...

OK back to the drugs and booze ...

If everyone buys an extra one and gives it to someone as a present.......could just be a 3 game pass. I did that last year but was the worst year I could have done it, not sure how much they enjoyed it! You could also buy a 3 or 5 game pass and use it when a friend comes along to an odd game. they can buy you a few beers at the game for the favour.