Mariners Squad - HAL 12 - 2016 - 2017

[Rowdy]

From 442 with some comments from Faty himself:

Faty signs with Central Coast:

Former Sydney FC defender Jacques Faty has signed a one-year deal with the Central Coast Mariners after being released by Sydney FC earlier today.

Faty was pleased to have joined the Gosford based club and set himself the goal of playing finals football next season.

“I’m very proud and very happy to sign this deal with the Central Coast Mariners,” Faty said.

“I have an ambition to be in the six (Hyundai A-League finals), we did it with Sydney and lost the grand final against Melbourne Victory so next season my ambition is to finish in the six.

“The young players here will be more experienced next season and I think we will bring in even more experienced players so we will have the potential to be in the finals.

“You can see the motivation of the Central Coast Mariners, that’s why I’m here. You can see what they’ve invested for the future and I want to be a part of this future, I want success with the Mariners.

“I have experience because I’ve played in Turkey and France so of course I am very interested to try and teach the young players, I really want to succeed with the Mariners because they deserve it.

Before joining the Central Coast Mariners, Faty admitted that he sought advice from the likes of Graham Arnold, Matt Simon & Zac Anderson before making his mind up.

“The first one I spoke to was the coach [Graham Arnold] and he told me a lot of great things about the Mariners. Great lifestyle, great team and I’ve always personally had a good relationship with the coach [Tony Walmsley].

“Of course, players like Matty Simon and Zac Anderson said nothing but positive things about the Mariners and that’s why it’s a pleasure for me to be here,” Faty said.

Head Coach Tony Walmsley says this is just the beginning of his rejuvenation of the playing squad.

“Jacques is a great signing, he gives us an immediate impact and growth on the pitch, he’s got composure, he’s got presence and his distribution from the back is fantastic,” Walmsley said.

“Jacques has played at a high level overseas and he’s going to put some demands on our young players that they need and I think they’ll grow quickly after the experiences they’ve had this season,” Walmsley said

Faty has signed a one-year deal and will join his Central Coast Mariners team mates for the Hyundai A-League 2016/17 pre-season.


Read more at http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/faty-signs-central-coast#qFO1uc6fR0eL7psY.99

 

[Ancient Mariner]

We had the thread:

"Arnie, you dont live here anymore. Stay out of the Pantry"

So does that mean we should start another thread titled:

"TW - stop ⚠ going through the Smurfs dustbin, looking for treats"

As there's only Arnold's trash to be found.

Not necessarily true. Players go to Sydney and many turn to shit (Ped, Musialik, Smeltz, etc.). But some seem to find a new lease of life when they leave.
Bridge and Santalab (a right pair of bastards) are a case in point. There are others that I cannot recall at the moment.
I suspect Holosko would be a lot better in any other club and hope Faty can show his 14/15 season form.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Good signing imo. And a very fast declaration of intent. Wilko alongside Faty would be a good pairing. Posc RB. Rose LB. Put a HAL level keeper behind them and we'd be well on the way.

 

[Rowdy]

Some interesting comments from Faty to say the least, about his consulting Arnie, Matty & Ando ????
Even more so,
'their glowing recommendations' of the Club and TW, especially when you consider the acrimony created from the advertising CCM put out pre-game for the SydFC derby game ie. 'Cashed-Up Arnie, returning home' etc.

He was fcuk'n filthy at the Mariners about that.

And the 'You didn't want him !!!' sideline spray from GA to Tony when Matty put x2 goals past us for that win at C.C.Stadium.

Is all this printed supposed 'sweetness & light' from SydFC just CCM spin written for the media release about Faty's signing

Honestly can't decide whats the most appropriate emoticon for all this sky blue 'peace & love' ???

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Yeah agree. Definitely odd. I guess Arnies not going to turn around and say I didn't say that - I said they were #%^$&@#

Or maybe they all just hate/blame MC and still have time for Hutch and TW.

 

[Timmah]

Some interesting comments from Faty to say the least, about his consulting Arnie, Matty & Ando ????
Even more so,
'their glowing recommendations' of the Club and TW, especially whenyou consider the acrimony created from the advertising CCM put out ore-SydFC derby game 'Cashed-Up Arnie, returning home' etc.

And the 'You didn't want him !!!' sideline spray to Tony when Matty put x2 goals past us for that win at C.C.Stadium.

Is all this printed supposed 'sweetness & light' from SydFC just CCM spin written for the media release about Faty's signing

Honestly can't decide whats the most appropriate emoticon for all this sky blue 'peace & love' ???

I think times have changed at CCM considerably since the "Arnie promo" - almost all senior positions since that time have changed and perhaps Arnold isn't as acrimonious about it all anymore?

As for the "CCM spin" - there's actually an audio interview in the club's media release, so they're definitely Jacques' words - not the clubs.

It's not inconceivable that the three smurfs respect the club that gave them success, regardless of what's happened.

 

[Rowdy]

But some seem to find a new lease of life when they leave.
Bridge and Santalab (a right pair of bastards) are a case in point. There are others that I cannot recall at the moment.

True.
Blake Powell, who was also let go by SFC has had a superb season for Wellington with his first stint back in the A-League since being let go by them.

Looking in the dustbin for some treats was a bit of a jest at Arnie raiding our cupboards of staff & players in the past

hope Faty can show his 14/15 season form.

A Wilko or someone of his standard &/or above it would make a 'rock solid' CB pairing.

Like you say, hope that 2014/15 form can reappear, just depends on the truth and his mentality on his above said comments of commitment and determination.

I just hope we dont try to make a play for his cousin as some sort of 'holding hands' scenario claiming they'll both settle in better being family BS.

I'd rather take a pass on Tav, otherwise it'll come across to me that they're both just after 1 more year in the sun

.... this time A LOT CLOSER to the beach

 

[Rowdy]

As for the "CCM spin" - there's actually an audio interview in the club's media release, so they're definitely Jacques' words - not the clubs.

Club's give player's prepared 'media mantra' to help them stay on point
all day - everyday, that's no secret.

Even more so when it's a new player signing on.

Just a bit weird with the Arnie referals and references, not seen similar before. Not to say that it's not all legit either, again just different from the usual.

 

[pjennings]

Interesting that Bray and Trent are still contracted. For Trent I think that may mean we will re-sign him. A positive story aligning IFS, Academy. NYL and the first team squad.

Bray is the interesting one. We have been told that we will have an A League level first team keeper. With Bray, Izzo and THB on the books that would be 4 keepers. Some have suggested Coe but his back injury seems to have been quite severe - this from 7 months ago.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...r/news-story/4272fcae62048e5faffe47cda703d5e2

I still have a sneaking suspicion that we may see Danny back. Like Wilko though I think we will have to wait for his team to end their season. If we do sign a 4th keeper then I would be keen to send the 2 youngest to Everton for a season to see what sort of development they can offer.

 

[true believer]

Great signing if fit , the defensive leader We needed . Im impressed and the 12 yearold will be hitting me with "fatty " jokes
Till the cows come home

 

[localpom]

Great signing. Will make a massive difference. As Wombat pointed out, a proper defender. We have been intimidated at the back this season, Jacques will put a stop to that. I think he and Wilko would make for a brilliant CB partnership, with Faty's aggression and ball playing ability out of the back and Wilko's composure. Both natural leaders who will take a massive load off Monty's plate and allow him to play his natural game. Big call but if we secured Wilko and Danny along with Faty we would be conceding 30 goals less from the start. Add a quality 10, Hersi, 2 or 3 wild cards (Everton youth?) and we are about there.

 

[Big Al]

Where are our foreigners at now.

Do we have room for another? Taveras or a #10.

Does that mean any Everton players would have to be Aussie?

 

[Big Al]

Interesting to see a price listed on the Wilko offer.

Good journalism and found out?
Leaked by CCM to show intent and put pressure on Wilko?
Leaked by Wilko to get increased offers from City and SFC?

The family not moving to Melbourne suggests there never was intent to stay at City IMO.

 

[Big Al]

If we did get another GK then Bray would have to go. Izzo can be a No2 and hopefully learn a lot more and with the promising young keepers we don't need to waste money and spot on Bray.

 

[Gratis]

Some interesting comments from Faty to say the least, about his consulting Arnie, Matty & Ando ????
Even more so,
'their glowing recommendations' of the Club and TW, especially when you consider the acrimony created from the advertising CCM put out pre-game for the SydFC derby game ie. 'Cashed-Up Arnie, returning home' etc.

He was fcuk'n filthy at the Mariners about that.

And the 'You didn't want him !!!' sideline spray from GA to Tony when Matty put x2 goals past us for that win at C.C.Stadium.

Is all this printed supposed 'sweetness & light' from SydFC just CCM spin written for the media release about Faty's signing

Honestly can't decide whats the most appropriate emoticon for all this sky blue 'peace & love' ???

I can believe the the ex-Mariners fok would only have good things to say about the club - even if they were disappointed with their exits. Arnie let's remember was kindly let out of a 3 year contract to pursue greater heights. These guys have all had good times, good friends and good success at the club and maybe being let go at the end is the only bad thing they could really say

 

[Gratis]

If we did get Wilko (still a big IF but looking encouraging) - would he go to Vice Captain until Monty retires?

 

[Big Al]

Happy to see Faty on a 1 yr deal. Don't want to repeat errors of the recent past.

I think the league is at a point where you can't carry dead weight and 1 yr deals will become the norm for 1st year imports and older players.

As for Arnie can we trust that. Faty hasn't played for a few weeks and is believed to have had a falling out with Arnie. Arnie needs to cut contracted imports. Did Arnie almost fall over when Faty said he was interested in CCM as that meant Arnie could get rid of him, or is Arnie just playing games with us over being shitty with the club and really wishes we'd give him his job back.

For a team that leaked 70 goals any CB is an improvement but a half decent one is good business.

Should be aiming for 8th to sixth next year and hope one or two of this years top six falls apart like say MV have the chance to do.

 

[dibo]

Sydney FC conceded exactly half as many goals as us this year, better than anyone else other than Adelaide, Wanderers and Victory.

They were shit because they also scored fewer than anyone other than us, Wellington and Newcastle.

If we can incorporate some of that stiffness in defence we'll definitely improve. Add a true #1 keeper and we'll take another step forward. It'd be awfully tempting to bring someone like Tavares in as well. Even without Wilko, that'd give us a few options about how we play the 3, 4, 6 and 8 roles between Faty, Tavares, Monty, McGing and Ascroft.

Posco's likely to wind up at 2, I'd be entirely unsurprised to see Neill preferred over Rose at 5.

At the other end, we'll attack better with a full year of Roy.

Imagining for a moment that we get Tavares, Wilko and Vukovic (and I really don't think it's impossible that we might), we suddenly get a really quite decent looking side:

Vukovic
Poscoliero Faty Wilkinson Neill
Montgomery Tavares
Ferreira L.Rose Austin
Roy​

It's also a side that's on average about a million years older than the 2015/16 side. But that's a side that can make finals. And perhaps aside from Wilko, I reckon we'd fit that all in the cap. If we need to get third-party deals, it'd be a better bet to improve the performance of the side than Garcia.

And you've got guys like Izzo, Ascroft and McGing who can learn alongside senior pros rather than feeling their way.

All three have copped buckets this year, but there's been no leader in that area because we sacked them all.

What's more, they're match hardened enough that they can genuinely press for selection. They're not out of it.

*****

You can tell we've been absolutely hanging for off-season, can't you?

 

[Ancient Mariner]

^^^^^ I'd be very happy with that side, especially if we could score a good marquee playmaker #10.

Vukovic and Tavares would almost have to be short odds to come, but I would trade both for Wilko.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

Fullbacks is a weakness that we seam to be overlooking on here.

Fully agree, but good fullbacks are as scarce as good strikers and good ones cost the Earth.

I think we are going to have to make do with what we have until the spine gets sorted.

I hope Storm can make a complete recovery and Posco can also fill the RB role, and on the other side maybe Josh can last another year and Micky Neil continue to develop.

I know it is a lot of crossed fingers, but with an organised defence hopefully there will not be the pressure on our full backs next season.