Mariners Squad - HAL 11 - 2015/2016

[elevated position]

I don't think Pain would dislodge Caceras. He is great sometimes and has good energy but he hasn't really progressed.

And that Wombat is the same problem with Caceras and Fitzgerald, both have been around for years and everyone on here are still waiting for break out years.

 

[localpom]

And that Wombat is the same problem with Caceras and Fitzgerald, both have been around for years and everyone on here are still waiting for break out years.

Can't agree with this. They are still young and not the finished article but have improved by some margin every year. Both look close to been our best players so far this season.

 

[rbakersmith]

Leaving aside the fact that Tom Smithies got the location wrong again - how do you get Port Douglas from Anna Bay??? - the second allegation here is quite disturbing:

It’s believed the allegations include disparaging references to head coach Tony Walmsley, bullying of younger players and inappropriate use of social media – including posting photos of the facilities at the club’s pre-season trip to Port Douglas.

If that is true then f*ck the PFA. Bullying is not on and any player doing it should be let go.

 

[dibo]

Brad Jones has just been granted a release from Bradford City too. We couldn't get that lucky, could we?

 

[scottmac]

Would be sweet

 

[Rowdy]

I think that's unfair on Aloisi. He came to us for half a season because Singo splashed the dollars. He was offered >$1m a season by Sydney and not us; who can blame him for taking the cash?

He went there and talked up his new club, had a shit season and a stormer and won the double.

Was told by a CCM player at the time JA was offered the same $$$'s by CCM/Singo to what he got at SYDFC.

He wanted to play in front of 'bigger crowds' & the prestige of the 'bigger club'.

Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[dibo]

Perhaps the confidence that SFC weren't going to tank as well? Towards the end of 2008/9 and into 2009/10 we were as poor and as cheap as we've ever been. The year SFC were at their best (winning the double) was the year we were at our worst (until last year), with the cheapest and least competitive squad I've ever seen wearing our badge.

 

[Rowdy]

Brad Jones has just been granted a release from Bradford City too. We couldn't get that lucky, could we?

Jones was signed in 2001 by Middlesbrough hoping they'd found the next Australian replica of Schwarzer who was there from 1997-08. For the purposes of either replacing Schwarzer &/or developing and on-selling.

They loaned him out for short spells to clubs like Shellbourne in Ireland, Stockport County, Rotherham, Blackpool (x2) & Sheffield Wednesday in the lower leagues for a total of 37.

He only got the No.1 at Middlesbrough when Schwarzer left in 2006 to go to Fulham. From 2001 to 2010 he played a total of 57 games because he was ALWAYS getting injured.

When at Liverpool 2010-2015, again constantly injured & only played a pitiful 11 games & mostly cup ones at that.

I compare him to a Jess Vanstratten.

10 games in 8 years in Italy, a big fat ZERO when he sat on the bench for Juventus in his final year. GoldCoast then us. The only thing he managed with his gloves at CCM was slapping his missus around one nite in the backyard in front of some mates when living at Terrigal (witnessed by a friend who was his neighbour)

Both players- watching the bank account balances going up sitting, on the bench whilst their career's went backwards at the same alarming rate.

Brad Jones at 33 & busted?
I'd pass.

 

[Rowdy]

If it's a busted 33yo sitting on the bench for Liverpool that impresses .......

Then I'd rather a 24yo that was identified at 12 yo and then put through the Liverpool Academy until 18 yo. Then left ONLY because he had the one & only Pepe Reina in front of him.

Him being Chris Oldfield;


who can be seen tonight playing for Hume City v Melb.Victory in the last semi of the FFA Cup @ 7.00pm on Foxsports4.

Or check out Victoria's 2014-2015 GoalKeeper of the Year in this youtube clip. (Think it might be the Welsh Prem. League to start off with & his Liverpool days are half way through.)

And shot-stopping ??? .........

 

[dibo]

Fair enough

 

[Rowdy]

And he'll be cheap like Heff 2.0 , looking to re-ignite his pathway.
(Edit:
I'd actually offer him a 1+2yr deal. 1st year super cheap. If he's no good let him go.
If he's the goods then we keep him on at an agreed 'raised' salary ($25-35k extra) for the following 2 years.
Maybe even a buy-out clause - we need to start being more savvy with our signings future potential )

(Even) More money for Wilko !!!

 

[VicMariner]

I'd be happy for us to sign Oldfield.

And shot-stopping ??? .........

There's not a keeper in the world who wouldn't be happy with that effort!

 

[Rowdy]

Bit of a catch 22 w/ Chris Oldfield tonite.

You'd like to see him put in a performance. The best performance would be a clean sheet which would knock Victory out.

BUT .....Then it would make it tough to sign him to start 'straight away', with his NPL Coach Lou Acevski in his ear about waiting it out and making history by playing for the first non-A-League to make an FFA Cup Final.

 

[VicMariner]

Bit of a catch 22 w/ Chris Oldfield tonite.

You'd like to see him put in a performance. The best performance would be a clean sheet which would knock Victory out.

BUT .....Then it would make it tough to sign him to start 'straight away', with his NPL Coach Lou Acevski in his ear about waiting it out and making history by playing for the first non-A-League to make an FFA Cup Final.

Sign him and then loan him back till the Final is done.

 

[Rowdy]

More so the $talling

 

[Rowdy]

Thought Oldfield looked pretty darn good in the first half with lots of quality saves.

Kicks really well out of the hands and off the deck with some big metres up field.

As Dibo said in the FFA thread, Hume weren't set-up to showcase his sweeping abillities with him playing with his feet.

With him due to get his visa sorted soon, low $$$'s + potential with professional set-up, I'd sign him.

Mark Bosnich post game when asked, said Oldfield on that performance could have a career in the A-League.

 

[dibo]

Looked a potential bargain. Isn't that our modus operandi?

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Was told by a CCM player at the time JA was offered the same $$$'s by CCM/Singo to what he got at SYDFC.

He wanted to play in front of 'bigger crowds' & the prestige of the 'bigger club'.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Dibo, at other times I tend to be pretty philosophical about the business of football and players moving on. But what Rowdy said is what I heard too and definitely seemed borne out by Aloisi's comments.

And... he forced me to have one of "those talks" with my 8 year old. You know the ones... like explaining that Santa is a lie, why 9.2 million children under five die every year, economic rationalism, divorce, Hitler etc... the ones where you get to watch a little of the light go out in their big wide doe like eyes.

Went something like...

30 minutes of...

Listen, I know you're upset....
blah blah blah..
yes I know he was your favourite...
blah blah blah...
it's just football...
blah blah blah...
yes I know you got his name on your jersey...
blah blah blah...
yes maybe we should have got Hutchos name instead...
blah blah blah...
don't worry there will be plenty of other marquees...
...blah blah blah...
I promise
...blah blah blah

But daddy, I still don't understand... why do players like Johnny point to their badge and kiss it and stuff like that then?

Well...just because...

But doesn't that mean you must really love something?

Well, yeah...usually...but...

If you love something, don't you want to stay with it?

Yes but...football players, they love...other things too... you know...

You mean like football?

No, well yeah... some. I think... but...

Because he said he was really enjoying his football here.

Yeah I know...but..

What about ice cream?

What about ice cream?

He must love ice cream.

I'm not talking about ice cream.

Everyone loves ice cream.

Ok sure, whatever, he probably loves ice cream. But what I'm saying is that they, players, love... other things too... you see they have family's to feed as well...

Is Johnny's family hungry?

Well no...

Because I've never ever seen a thin Italian kid?

Ok look I've told you you can't go saying things like...

Is that because they all love ice cream so much?

What? No, I don't know...

Because I saw his kid practically inhale a double cone just before on the sideline. I thought he must have dropped it but...

No look! What i'm saying, is it's their job ok, you know, so the players, they need to make money...

Ok, I think I understand.

Great. Finally. *sigh*

Johnny is going to SFC because he's poor.

No, he isn't bloody poor... but...

Well then what is it??

You know...

No. All I know, is that you keep sayin' 'but' and 'you bloody know'.
'But' I don't know, if 'you bloody know', what you're even sayin'

Ok listen up smart ass, I'm only going to say this once, and your not to tell your bloody mother or I'll strangle you with your own damn supporters scarf. Your precious Johnny is a money hungry cnut, and he's dead to us. Now eat your f**king ice cream and watch the damn game.

Ok, I may not have said that.

'But' I did turn the "S" in his Aloisi jersey into a $ sign for him.

He wore it proudly till it no longer fit.

He's a good kid.

 

[Rowdy]

'But' I did turn the "S" in his Aloisi jersey into a $ sign for him.

Pure Gold !

 

[FFC Mariner]

It was his pointing at his name when he scuffed that pelanty that did me.

Absolute tosser