Mariners Squad - 2019-2020

[turbo]

Not directing this a JP or anyone else in particular but I think its easy to say X would be worth a minimum wage deal when the reality is we'd need to spend a bit more than that to secure their services and have them in a good mindset. Even if someone begrudgingly accepts minimum wage its not going to reflect well in their attitude and it's not like we have the draw card of being Sydney or Victory regular title contenders or obviously building a killer squad like Perth. It might be an option for new players who will then be looking for a bump in a year or two after being established or for someone desperately looking to avoid dropping to NPL (do we really want that player though?). I'd be very surprised if we've got someone like Melling who's played regularly taking minimum wage and I can't see why he'd want to.

Lastly we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that the minimum wage for players isnt that much money. If I'm in my mid 20s and people consistently want me to sign for that much I'd be thinking about life after football. Going to play NPL and working would be tempting.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Not directing this a JP or anyone else in particular but I think its easy to say X would be worth a minimum wage deal when the reality is we'd need to spend a bit more than that to secure their services and have them in a good mindset. Even if someone begrudgingly accepts minimum wage its not going to reflect well in their attitude and it's not like we have the draw card of being Sydney or Victory regular title contenders or obviously building a killer squad like Perth. It might be an option for new players who will then be looking for a bump in a year or two after being established or for someone desperately looking to avoid dropping to NPL (do we really want that player though?). I'd be very surprised if we've got someone like Melling who's played regularly taking minimum wage and I can't see why he'd want to.

Lastly we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that the minimum wage for players isnt that much money. If I'm in my mid 20s and people consistently want me to sign for that much I'd be thinking about life after football. Going to play NPL and working would be tempting.

Yeah I can fully understand that, it is pretty optimistic to be able to say that you can just say you can sign all these players on minimum wage but the ones I did put on there were players either in the NPL or would have had probably no other offers to play professionally. Personally I think if a player is playing in the NPL than the ultimate aim for them would be playing professionally again or for the first time. For me, where else could have Melling gone? All other A-League clubs have players younger and arguably much better than him and he was also coming off a long injury lay off so I would say it wouldn't be too unrealistic to say we signed him on minimum wage, especially when we gave him the security of a two year contract.

 

[turbo]

For me, where else could have Melling gone? All other A-League clubs have players younger and arguably much better than him and he was also coming off a long injury lay off so I would say it wouldn't be too unrealistic to say we signed him on minimum wage, especially when we gave him the security of a two year contract.

That might be correct I'm just thinking about the mental aspect of being told to accept 64k or go play NPL when you're playing in front of the likes of Hoole and Mcglinchey who would be on double or triple your wage. Also I'm not suggesting he should be on huge money but a relatively modest bump of 10-15k can make a huge difference to quality of life and happiness at that level while being less significant to someone on twice as much. The way I see it even if we did sign him on minimum wage as a squaddie once he's stepped up you should look after him a bit, thats the sort of thing that encourages loyalty and morale. It's not like we had the cap as a major limitation.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/brillante-de-jong-two-12-players-released-sydney-fc
anyone worthwhile?

I would no mind Gucci, but would need a goos AM as well.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

So, our former youth player Gianni Stesness scored for New Zealand at the U20 World Cup and has played every game for them and they have already qualified for the next round. That's one hell of a missed signing....

 

[turbo]

I would no mind Gucci,

Not worth the money he'd command IMO. Didnt put them away for Sydney when he had his chances including in the ACL. It's not a stretch to say that sort of thing could have cost them progression from the group stages.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

Not worth the money he'd command IMO. Didnt put them away for Sydney when he had his chances including in the ACL. It's not a stretch to say that sort of thing could have cost them progression from the group stages.

I guess you are probably correct, but he appeared to me to take a while to settle and looked to be improving.

Money would be better spent on a quality AM as a provider who can also score and hope Murray can put them away.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

 

[rbakersmith]

God damm that sucks, not much more he could have done to get an opportunity. Any idea on where he is going?

Off to Asia, apparently:

The Central Coast Mariners can today announce that Academy Men’s captain Michael Glassock is set to depart the youth side immediately, as he has secured a professional contract in Asia.

https://www.ccmariners.com.au/news/glassock-signs-asian-adventure

Good luck to him

 

[Michael]

Anyone know where Glasso is going in Asia?
Good on the kid. Very happy for him.
Just hope it isn’t a sympathy contract similar to the one Hutcho gave Steve Whyte in Seattle....

 

[Capt. Awesome]

Why are we letting our most promising youth talent walk out the door??? There is something wrong at the Mariners.

 

[Coastalraider]

 

[marinermick]

Anyone know where Glasso is going in Asia?
Good on the kid. Very happy for him.
Just hope it isn’t a sympathy contract similar to the one Hutcho gave Steve Whyte in Seattle....

Hong Kong I hear. Better off going to a NPL1 club.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Mitch Austin has been released by Sydney FC. Worth a minimum wage contract or off to the NPL?

That was such a quality unintended troll on here JP.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

It hasn't though has it? The deadline I heard was June 30. At the moment I believe the HAL is still controlled and run by the FFA.

Yes but Mike spoke about needing the confidence in the future / potential to monetise it would provide before he would invest more. So I don’t think a yeah sorry, I would have spent more on our squad but we don’t take over for another month would be an even remotely acceptable excuse.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Wouldn't mind Jacob Tratt or Cameron Devlin if we could get them cheap.

I rate Tratt.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

Jai Ingham has been released from Victory along with Niedermeier and Baena. I'm certainly feeling like he is coming here to be announced at the Forum.

 

[pjennings]

Yes but Mike spoke about needing the confidence in the future / potential to monetise it would provide before he would invest more. So I don’t think a yeah sorry, I would have spent more on our squad but we don’t take over for another month would be an even remotely acceptable excuse.

I know this might sound jaded.

If it is just around the edges as alluded then I agree with you. But this is Football in Australia. The more likely scenario is that some minor stakeholder will hold up agreement for another year.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

I know this might sound jaded.

If it is just around the edges as alluded then I agree with you. But this is Football in Australia. The more likely scenario is that some minor stakeholder will hold up agreement for another year.

No idea why you might be jaded PJ. But can't argue with that. We need this answered at the forum.

 

[Michael]

Jai Ingham has been released from Victory along with Niedermeier and Baena. I'm certainly feeling like he is coming here to be announced at the Forum.

Was going to say the exact same thing

Niedermeier would be perfect for us. Although probably only has 1 more season in him. We need our solid visa CB on a 2-3 year deal I reckon.