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Lyall Gorman - Changes to squad

shipwreck

Well-Known Member
Blair said:
What do u guys think of bozza being our defensive coach?

I think thats a fantastic idea, wouldnt have to emply him as marquee then as we could channel some of his player wages into his coach wage, similar to muscat style!
 

Sacko

Well-Known Member
Blair said:
What do u guys think of bozza being our defensive coach?

Not a lot!
Maybe bring him in as player / coach for Crawley and Nash, but defensive coach- I say NO!
 

mariners4ever

Well-Known Member
shipwreck said:
Blair said:
What do u guys think of bozza being our defensive coach?

I think thats a fantastic idea, wouldnt have to emply him as marquee then as we could channel some of his player wages into his coach wage, similar to Musc**t style!

and what, leave danny to rot on the bench, he can turn out to be an excellent keeper, he just has to work his footing and set pieces
 

Bear

Well-Known Member
mariners4ever said:
shipwreck said:
Blair said:
What do u guys think of bozza being our defensive coach?

I think thats a fantastic idea, wouldnt have to emply him as marquee then as we could channel some of his player wages into his coach wage, similar to Musc**t style!

and what, leave danny to rot on the bench, he can turn out to be an excellent keeper, he just has to work his footing and set pieces

the alternative is keep playing his, keep leaking goals, and keep being rubbish
 

Bladesman

Well-Known Member
Roy Law said:
I want to see a review of the coaching staff not just the players. If Laurie is saying the right things to the players but the message isn't getting through then perhaps the message is getting stale and perhaps its time for him to move to another role in the club. I question what contribution Tobin is making given that our defence remains so poor; you would imagine with a record 87 caps for the Socceroos as a defender he would have some knowledge to impart yet the defending is brainless. And I really want to know what credentials, apart from being a good bloke, Damien Brown brings to the youth team. I want to see a defender coach, a finishing coach and a sports psychologist added to the staff.

We should certainly be looking at the coaching structure given our inability to bring through any youngsters over the past few years.  Matt Simon is the only one we have brought through and the big improvment in him was after spending the time between V3 and V4 with the Australian squad.

As I have said before if you were a youngster looking for a club would you pick the mariners? I doubt it as there ppears to be very little chance of a start compared with the other clubs.
 

Deej

Well-Known Member
Bearinator said:
mariners4ever said:
shipwreck said:
Blair said:
What do u guys think of bozza being our defensive coach?

I think thats a fantastic idea, wouldnt have to emply him as marquee then as we could channel some of his player wages into his coach wage, similar to Musc**t style!

and what, leave danny to rot on the bench, he can turn out to be an excellent keeper, he just has to work his footing and set pieces

the alternative is keep playing his, keep leaking goals, and keep being rubbish

Danny has the ability, he needs to rediscover his form as do the whole team.  Give him a more solid and reliable defence first IMO.
 

pjennings

Well-Known Member
Deej said:
Bearinator said:
mariners4ever said:
shipwreck said:
Blair said:
What do u guys think of bozza being our defensive coach?

I think thats a fantastic idea, wouldnt have to emply him as marquee then as we could channel some of his player wages into his coach wage, similar to Musc**t style!

and what, leave danny to rot on the bench, he can turn out to be an excellent keeper, he just has to work his footing and set pieces

the alternative is keep playing his, keep leaking goals, and keep being rubbish

Danny has the ability, he needs to rediscover his form as do the whole team.  Give him a more solid and reliable defence first IMO.

Danny has the ability to be a good shot stopper. I am yet to see him organise his defence or distribute well. At the moment his confidence seems to be low and his shot stopping has dipped as a result. He has had dips before but Meggsy and Viddie organised the defence to protect him. There is no-one there to do that at the moment and his confidence is just disintegrating. He needs a better defence - but he needs to learn how to boss them.

Bozza on the other hand could organise us easily - even if his fitness was not up to Danny's .
 

Jesus

Jesus
mariners4ever said:
shipwreck said:
Blair said:
What do u guys think of bozza being our defensive coach?

I think thats a fantastic idea, wouldnt have to emply him as marquee then as we could channel some of his player wages into his coach wage, similar to Musc**t style!

and what, leave danny to rot on the bench, he can turn out to be an excellent keeper, he just has to work his footing and set pieces

Since when were players more important than the team? Since when did we not sign players on the opinion that they would improve the squad and be better then the ones we have?

By giving players a free ride you only hurt their ability. Danny at his best can push bozza out of goals. But he is not near that currently. Why should he not be given motivation? Why should he not be hauled off during the game when he is playing shit and switched for someone else?
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
Jesus said:
mariners4ever said:
shipwreck said:
Blair said:
What do u guys think of bozza being our defensive coach?

I think thats a fantastic idea, wouldnt have to emply him as marquee then as we could channel some of his player wages into his coach wage, similar to Musc**t style!

and what, leave danny to rot on the bench, he can turn out to be an excellent keeper, he just has to work his footing and set pieces

Since when were players more important than the team? Since when did we not sign players on the opinion that they would improve the squad and be better then the ones we have?

By giving players a free ride you only hurt their ability. Danny at his best can push bozza out of goals. But he is not near that currently. Why should he not be given motivation? Why should he not be hauled off during the game when he is playing shit and switched for someone else?

Explain Hutcho then.....go on :)
 

clarence

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FFC Mariner said:
Jesus said:
mariners4ever said:
shipwreck said:
Blair said:
What do u guys think of bozza being our defensive coach?

I think thats a fantastic idea, wouldnt have to emply him as marquee then as we could channel some of his player wages into his coach wage, similar to Musc**t style!

and what, leave danny to rot on the bench, he can turn out to be an excellent keeper, he just has to work his footing and set pieces

Since when were players more important than the team? Since when did we not sign players on the opinion that they would improve the squad and be better then the ones we have?

By giving players a free ride you only hurt their ability. Danny at his best can push bozza out of goals. But he is not near that currently. Why should he not be given motivation? Why should he not be hauled off during the game when he is playing shit and switched for someone else?

Explain Hutcho then.....go on :)

+1. Hutchinson has been hopelessly out of form and still started! This has happened not only this last season but the second one as well.
People then were excusing his poor form due to coming back from that bad knee injury but Lawrie persisted with him for a lot of matches and it's not wonder - looking back on it - that our midfield was weaker in that season because of it, as Hutchinson was very tentative.
Wasn't taking on players in front of him, wasn't running to the ball and trying to get to it just before the opposing player, back passing and trying to milk fouls.
This last A-League season was much the same, and yet there was supposedly no return from major injury, just poor form. But Lawrie still played him!
Meanwhile, Porter gets brickbats for trying to play out of position at RB, loses hopes of getting rep honours at midfield position (Lawrie playing Porter at RB for the last two- three seasons did damage Porter's claim to the Olyroos squad), Caceres ends up being a bench player by season end, and all because Lawrie wanted Hutchinson in there at CM.
 

ccf

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Danny needs to go back to basics - positioning and directing his players - start small and build up and he maybe a good player again!!  As for Lawrie persisting with players - what about Mrjda.  Get him out now!!!! (Mrjda that is)
 

clarence

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ccf said:
Danny needs to go back to basics - positioning and directing his players - start small and build up and he maybe a good player again!!  As for Lawrie persisting with players - what about Mrjda.  Get him out now!!!! (Mrjda that is)

In all fairness to Matt Simon, Mrdja should go and give Matt the opportunity to have the #9 jersey. In many a player's eye that number IS the star striker's number, and we've all seen Matt work very hard, firstly getting into the team, struggling to crack the first goal, and then go on to catch the attention of the national team selectors and become our 'go to' man in our club.

Compare that with what Mrdja has done over the same period and the contribution Mrdja has put in for the team is minuscule. Get rid of Mrdja and give Matt the opportunity to have the #9 jersey (with a considerable bump in salary)!
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
Heres an idea.

We have spent 4 seasons with one of our squad places being taken by a malingering bludger on high wages.

I will be willing to take on that spot at a vastly reduced salary saving the club $$ and allowing us to maintain the tradition of having a wasted spot on the roster.

Just in case anyone thinks I wont apply myself to this new role, I am prepared to make a 2 minute cameo appearance in a pre-season game and then not be seen for a year while I undergo another heart muscle injury
 

Rubbernose

Active Member
Bozza being out of the game so long at his age surely makes him a ticking injury bomb, even we learnt that in his short spell here, eventually. It's probably a major reason why no club anywhere has ever offered him a contract since, yet. That, plus I also heard that his wage demands around that time practically priced him out of the HAL, that he was being unrealistic. Maybe if he lowers his expectations someone might snatch him up, but he'd want to hurry up.

Our squad could really do with the injection of some quality. An experienced, quality central defender, a #10 in the Tommy mold, another striker and perhaps some genuine width. Preferably with players who aren't injury nightmares and can last 90 mins.

I think I just heard Sterj just came off contract at Derby, for what it's worth. And Zadkid, but he's a bit of an arrogant git. I've also heard that the club has been willing to fork out and grab a number of players in the past, but we've let go of and lost quite a few because of the, erm, coaching staff's dilly-dallying and inability to make a timely decision.
 

clarence

Well-Known Member
FFC Mariner said:
Heres an idea.

We have spent 4 seasons with one of our squad places being taken by a malingering bludger on high wages.

I will be willing to take on that spot at a vastly reduced salary saving the club $$ and allowing us to maintain the tradition of having a wasted spot on the roster.

Just in case anyone thinks I wont apply myself to this new role, I am prepared to make a 2 minute cameo appearance in a pre-season game and then not be seen for a year while I undergo another heart muscle injury

LOL! Post of the day. Thank you.

Seriously (as opposed to serious_14), Mrdja does not deserve the 'ride' he has gotten over the last few seasons. He knows that, we know that. He has been basically on workers' comp. due to the injury, but really we know that in other comps. and even other clubs within the A-League, he'd be gone. Last season he was supposed to repay all that goodwill, and we didn't see much back in return did we?

Stupid thing about Lyall's media comments is that it is obvious that someone close to him does read these forums, or the club has been inundated with phone calls suggesting changes happen, as he mentioned that fans had become more versed in football and demanding better quality of players.

Now, aside from this forum, where else could someone within the club go to to get all sorts of opinions about the Mariners? And I really doubt people would ring up on the club on Mondays just to say "drop Mrdja, get rid of O'Grady" etc.  ??? ;) ;D

So keep up the comments I reckon, someone is reading them!  ;)
 

Gopher of Pern

Well-Known Member
FFC Mariner said:
Heres an idea.

We have spent 4 seasons with one of our squad places being taken by a malingering bludger on high wages.

I will be willing to take on that spot at a vastly reduced salary saving the club $$ and allowing us to maintain the tradition of having a wasted spot on the roster.

Just in case anyone thinks I wont apply myself to this new role, I am prepared to make a 2 minute cameo appearance in a pre-season game and then not be seen for a year while I undergo another heart muscle injury

Pfft.

I would pay the club to have that role. $100 a year, for a spot on the roster, and a 2 -minute cameo in any game. I think that's worth it.

The club has nothing to lose, and $100 to gain! :)
 

Jesus

Jesus
FFC Mariner said:
Jesus said:
mariners4ever said:
shipwreck said:
Blair said:
What do u guys think of bozza being our defensive coach?

I think thats a fantastic idea, wouldnt have to emply him as marquee then as we could channel some of his player wages into his coach wage, similar to Musc**t style!

and what, leave danny to rot on the bench, he can turn out to be an excellent keeper, he just has to work his footing and set pieces

Since when were players more important than the team? Since when did we not sign players on the opinion that they would improve the squad and be better then the ones we have?

By giving players a free ride you only hurt their ability. Danny at his best can push bozza out of goals. But he is not near that currently. Why should he not be given motivation? Why should he not be hauled off during the game when he is playing shit and switched for someone else?

Explain Hutcho then.....go on :)

Well, i am really saying how things should be. If we are going to keep players not up to it, we can at least ditch nepotism of the coach for the will of the crowd. Everytime hutch goes to take a corner on the western side the whole crowd is angry and calling for anyone else to take it.

I dont think wanting simon to have number 9 is a reason for getting rid of a striker. The numbers could be switched without that, and if that is so important to them, then they have major issues.

I dont think mrdja would be on that much cash now. And will no doubt be going backwards in the cash offer this season. I think that he looked like he was not match fit at all this season. He needed the preseason.
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
what about when the crowd's irrational and believes certain players to be worth far more than they are?
 

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