Is it time for wholesale change at CCM

[Bear]

He might not sell shirts or put butts on seats dibo (imo he would tho), but the money from sponsors in asia we would pick up from the quality football we play would be the investment paying for its self

And again, the Central Coast is not all about the money, its the lifestyle mate

 

[pjennings]

Charlie Millers signing would have made a huge difference to this season and if elrich didn't cop that knee blow out our midfield would have been elrich, miller, jedinak, caceras. This would have kept everyones fav hutch on the bench untill now and i believe we would have got more from our drawn games.

This season's plan was to cross the ball in more than any other team to dmac, simon and petrovski, and we found ourselves with only 1 decent crosser of the ball in porter (and even he left a lot to be desired at times) who played most of the season at RB.

Even if we do not make the finals this season would not be worse that V2. LM is struggling trying to play the shape which brought our mid season success without a decent backline or midfield. We need to find at least 4 more likely 5 players for these areas.

A strong CB and a quick RB, a DM the likes of Jedi, a AM for marquee player and another CB or midfielder. If we can add at least 3 or 4 of these then we should be well set for V5.

As for Asia? I can not see us making any signings before the end of Jan. Smells like Everton, no talk, no action, no signings which will result in panic buying right at the death. I hope this is not the case and the club come out with some left field signings preferably not from SU.

I agree with nearly all of that.

This is not a bagging of Danny but I would love to see Bozza back for the finals if we make it - and for the ACL. Danny is having his worst season - not bad - just not up to his usual standard. While he was not primarily at fault for the second and third goals last night I expected more. To put it another way - Danny would have saved it in previous seasons and this season Galakovic would have been likely to stop both - someone that Danny was clearly playing better than previously.

If we get Bozza as a guest it will put pressure on Danny to step up. If not Bozza looks better now than when he was with us AND he can organise the defence.

One more thing - why was Miller not signed by us when we were talking to him first?

 

[MattSimon]

Kudos to everyone for fair and well thought out posts thus far.

I think we should remember that at the start of the season most people here predicted a finish around 4th or 5th. We had a boom year last year, and so did the Jets. In the A-League almost every boom team has dropped down in the following season, but if we've only dropped to 4th, that's better than Melb V3, Jets V4, CCM V2, and arguably SFC V2 even though they made the four that year.

Very good observation. There hasn't really ever been a standout team who have backed up a good season with a second has there? Although Adelaide were lucky enough to secure an ACL berth two years running, and look what that did for them.

Everyone might be feeling a little different right now if all the little things had gone our way and we had converted chances last night. If we had been up 2-0 before Hernandez came on, things would have been very different. I'm sick of people like Simon Hill crediting Merrick with a brilliant substitution / brilliant tactics - we just got unlucky / sloppy for five minutes of play, and Melbourne converted half chances through a combination of luck and skill. All their goals were scored in a 7 minute period.

 

[Bear]

If we had been up 2-0 before Hernandez came on, things would have been very different.

Yeah, we would have lost 3-2 

 

[Ted]

If we had been up 2-0 before Hernandez came on, things would have been very different.

Yeah, we would have lost 3-2 

Dont think so Bear. If we were up and in front by half time I think we would have gone on to win as the pressure would have been on MV. The fact we blundered so many opportunites in the first 60 to 70 min is where we came unstuck. MV slot in one goal and we turn to shyte...

 

[Paolo]

We miss Fergie

/thread

 

[dibo]

We miss Fergie

/thread

on fergie - how funny would it be if his new club (already confirmed to be wearing green) wound up wearing hoops. i think you may well see the world's funniest press conference as fergie calls everyone in the room c**ts and storms out.

 

[Paolo]

on fergie - how funny would it be if his new club (already confirmed to be wearing green) wound up wearing hoops. i think you may well see the world's funniest press conference as fergie calls everyone in the room c**ts and storms out.

post reported to you...off topic

 

[dibo]

 

[Bear]

If we had been up 2-0 before Hernandez came on, things would have been very different.

Yeah, we would have lost 3-2 

Dont think so Bear. If we were up and in front by half time I think we would have gone on to win as the pressure would have been on MV. The fact we blundered so many opportunites in the first 60 to 70 min is where we came unstuck. MV slot in one goal and we turn to shyte...

Im sure you alreadys know this, but I was jokeing SuperTed

 

[clarence]

Some very good comments here, folks, and thank you Mr. Fulham for starting the thread.

Yes, replace the deadwood, but for gawd's sake, DO NOT get an old mate of Lawrie's in, or someone who is somehow Glaswegian or remotely connected to the coaching staff! Time to move on Lawrie, get some players who you do not know personally. Your 'favourite's' routine is becoming a bore.

As for who to get rid of, I'd strongly suggest O'Grady (not up to grade), Boogs (too slow), Gumps (age), Sasho (age), Mrdja (no heart, injury prone), Clark (age, should be the team's sports scientist). I'd also put on notice the following players to step up or f**k off: Owens. G, D'Appuzzo, Heffernan.

As for a suggestion that Tobin should take over, please refer to the performances that the Youth Team are dishing up at the moment. While I concede that the players are probably not the best going around, Tobin is reliant upon the senior players sparking up that team a lot, and the tactics are very dour.

 

[Paolo]

As for who to get rid of,Boogs (too slow)

Please edit your post....it seems you have accidently included one of(if not the) our best defenders

 

[clarence]

As for who to get rid of,Boogs (too slow)

Please edit your post....it seems you have accidently included one of(if not the) our best defenders

And one of our slowest too.

If he can 'find' a yard 'off the mark' speed, he'd be a regular starter this season. My argument is that finding speed is not something you can get through training (only maybe micro seconds from better running technique but that's it), it's natural and Boogs has been found out a few times.

His great tackling and scrambling abilities held him up last season, with Vidmar by his side, but he hasn't been able to hold his own this season, prior to injury. Unless Lawrie has other plans for him (DCM?), or he can find a way to legally slow up the attacking players to his speed, he may find it hard to press for regular selection.

In an improving League, there is always going to be people left behind, life is tough as a professional sports person, and it's a shame for Boogs after all he's had to overcome. While he had a good season last season,  the improving speed of our League has meant he's possibly too slow this season.

 

[Auburn Mariner]

To clarify, my Glaswegian reference was for toughness, not a Lawrie reference. As it so happens, Lawrie is NOT from Glasgow, he is from Kilmarnock.

Jeez, talk about the Pot calling the Kettle Black, young keensy requesting someone to edit a post he didn't agree with. People in glass houses, Jared....

 

[clarence]

To clarify, my Glaswegian reference was for toughness, not a Lawrie reference. As it so happens, Lawrie is NOT from Glasgow, he is from Kilmarnock.

Jeez, talk about the Pot calling the Kettle Black, young keensy requesting someone to edit a post he didn't agree with. People in glass houses, Jared....

Auburn Mariner: I accepted Keensy's post as I guess my suggestion does raise the eyebrows of some due to Boogs' good season last year. Definitely required an explanation from me.

The perennial problem with the Mariners, and probably all A-League clubs for that matter, is that they cannot simply carry a player who may have previously been a good journeyman for them. There are limited spots, and every contracted player soaks up a piece of the salary cap (unless you make them marquee), so they should be able to perform consistently to the expected level.

If it happens that a club needs to go into the market and compete for the better players rather than sighting a prospect from the State League, ala Jedinak, then they have to make room.

That may mean being ruthless to some players who may not be making the grade over the last season or two.

If a player's problem in making grade is their lack of natural sprinting speed or a poor technique that should have been sorted out when they were 15, then a club cannot afford to 'carry' them into another season (hoping for some miraculous turnaround in the player's natural attributes).

 

[Auburn Mariner]

Fair enough, Clarence.

 

[Paolo]

Jeez, talk about the Pot calling the Kettle Black, young keensy requesting someone
to edit a post he didn't agree with. People in glass houses, Jared....

please edit your post as i dont agree with it etc etc..

 

[FFC Mariner]

Boogs reading of the game more than makes up for his lack of pace.

Booby Moore wasnt the quickest player the world has ever seen but he read the game about 10 mins ahead of everyone else. Boogs is nowhere near his level but probably reads the game better than most in the HAL.

 

[BrisRecky]

some one suggested to me the other day that the team attitude on the park has changed since Tobin took over from fergie... I said I couldnt really say..what does everyone else think??

 

[Paolo]

some one suggested to me the other day that the team attitude on the park has changed since Tobin took over from fergie... I said I couldnt really say..what does everyone else think??

Thats what i think. No one there to give em a bollocking

We miss Fergie

/thread