"I for one welcome our insect overlords" - The Politics Thread

[nikko]

As a swinger [voting wise]

Not otherwise?

 

[midfielder]

Not otherwise?

ROFL ... anyway my wife will kill me ... slowly and painfully ... so no...

 

[hasbeen]

another wiener quoting the Australian. although you must lament , it's lack of quality compared to der sturmer

Ha ha ... Godwin's Law so early in an argument? What little credibility you had quickly disappeared.

 

[dibo]

Says the bloke who protests so much that he's independent, yet only seems to show up to put shit on Labor.

 

[true believer]

Ha ha ... Godwin's Law so early in an argument? What little credibility you had quickly disappeared.

that's only if you run with godwin's law, running true,i don't.
neo con's are just re badged neo Nazi's . does scott morrision, still want to tag asylum seekers?

you know it's been done before

 

[midfielder]

As a swinger [voting wise] I have mixed emotions...
It is not a good look when a sitting PM is disposed by their members sorta makes us look like Japan or Italy, to people overseas .... further she was the leader at the last election... in the same way K O 7 was before her... just looks bad...

The good is we have a contest now and the Libs will be forced to discuss what they plan to do
At dinner parties I have said I have never seen a new government take control without extensive explaining of what they planned to do ... the three best examples I have its Gough he said I will change this and this and his song it's time... Bobby H said I will get everyone together and hold a big talk and my intention is to do this and this ... and Little Johnny H who from about 18 months out from his election in 96 held monthly meetings where he said these are the principals that we will use when looking at a particular policy area....

One thing I can say is I have never been more disappointed in the parties and leaders... K O 7 and Julia to me have been driven by poll data .... Julia make IMO a huge mistake in accepting to much policy direction from the Greens and Independents like Windsor ... further with Slipper & Thomo she appeared like a PM desperate to hold on to power ... would have been much smarter to call an election about 12 months into her term IMO... Tony A what can you say he has been presented with a position whereby everyday one vote changing and he was in power so to speak and his constant negative approach has at times become tiresome at the least...

Just talking / ranting I suppose ... however have never been more disappointed in the leaders of both parties... K O 7 can a person change as much as what is needed .... Can Tony A produce a policy ...

Blinky Bill was interesting last night in that he put Julia in power and then sorta kicked her out .... wonders aloud if he is the next ALP leader ...

In summary I am sad because I think the changing of elected PM's has made Australia look silly overseas... further an elected PM should govern for the cycle IMO ... glad that Rudd will force the Libs from behind the bush and force them to explain what they plan to do....

HHHHHMMMMmmmmm http://m.smh.com.au/opinion/politic...eadlines-around-the-world-20130627-2oyi5.html
Most shocking political backstabbers': Rudd's comeback makes headlines around the world

Kevin Rudd's extraordinary political resurrection has made headlines around the world - and not all of them are good.
On the one hand, The New York Times declared that Mr Rudd's 57-45 ballot win on Wednesday night was “one of the most sensational political comebacks in Australian history”.
But other organisations have mocked the high drama and instability of Australian politics, with the Huffington Post listing both Mr Rudd and Julia Gillard as among the world's "most shocking political backstabbers".
An image of the pair appears in a photo gallery alongside the likes of Brutus, who took a leading role in the assassination of Julius Caesar.
British tabloid The Daily Mail's headline focused on recent photographs of Ms Gillard posing on an armchair knitting a toy kangaroo, taken by The Australian Women's Weekly.

"Australian prime minister Julia Gillard bounced out after being photographed knitting a toy kangaroo for Kate's baby," the headline read.The Ghana Broadcasting Corporationgot it completely wrong. "Austrian PM Gillard ousted by her party," it declared.
In the US, The New York Times recapped Julia Gillard's career as prime minister in a prominent story, while its news blog, The Lede, featured video of Ms Gillard's fiery speech about sexism and misogyny in Parliament.
"Ms. Gillard was saluted for the dignity of her remarks as she stepped down on Wednesday, but she will no doubt be remembered more on the global stage of the Internet for the stinging rebuke she delivered to a male politician last year," the blog said.
Under the headline "Admired abroad, vilified at home", CNN highlighted Ms Gillard's stint as the first female prime minister, commenting on her strength of character and “feisty” behaviour.
“As leader, she is widely acknowledged to have deftly dealt with the challenges of a hung parliament,” it stated.
“Her government has formulated and negotiated several critical pieces of legislation: a national disability insurance scheme and, on the day she lost power, a new formula to fund government schools.”
The Wall Street Journal likened the bitter rivalry between Ms Gillard and Mr Rudd to that of a Shakespearean drama.
The Daily Telegraph in Britain reflected on Ms Gillard's career by saying that her leadership and willingness to negotiate led to her passing a record amount of legislation for a post-war Australian prime minister.
But the analysis, by Australian writer Van Badham, claimed the problem for Ms Gillard was not her performance, but that "from to beginning to end, she remained female".
"The gendered attention was belittling and that was its aim," Badham wrote.
"Gillard the policy warrior was consistently rendered as an object of ridicule, an object out of place, something unnatural, sexual, not serious. She was the most powerful person in the nation, but not even she could stop the constant harassment about her body and her sexuality."
The Times in Britain labelled Mr Rudd a “ditherer”, while he was described in a Huffington Post story as "a Mandarin-speaking former Beijing diplomat turned state government bureaucrat" who "has a nerdy style that endeared him to voters. But colleagues complained he was chaotic, bad-tempered and vicious."

 

[true believer]

"The gendered attention was belittling and that was its aim," Badham wrote.
"Gillard the policy warrior was consistently rendered as an object of ridicule, an object out of place, something unnatural, sexual, not serious. She was the most powerful person in the nation, but not even she could stop the constant harassment about her body and her sexuality."

100% correct.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Shorten has no chance of ever leading the party after last night IMHO.

Should have held his nerve and been part of the reconstruction post election.

 

[dibo]

Shorten has no chance of ever leading the party after last night IMHO.

Should have held his nerve and been part of the reconstruction post election.

I think his play is to be part of the reconstruction of a party that has more than 40MPs left in the HoR.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Media would destroy him before he got started. As Oscar Wilde nearly said

"To knife one elected leader Mr Shorten, may be regarded as a misfortune, to knife 2......."

 

[hasbeen]

that's only if you run with godwin's law, running true,i don't.
neo con's are just re badged neo Nazi's . does scott morrision, still want to tag asylum seekers?

you know it's been done before

Case proven m'lud.

 

[true believer]

exactly in morrision's case, glad your onboard.

 

[midfielder]

Dibo

Assume the election is close and the Libs win by less than 20 .... do you think the ALP will change leaders or leave Kev in place ? ...

Second assumption Libs win by over 25 .... is the answer the same ? ....

 

[true believer]

3 years in opposition is a long time .

 

[true believer]

more nazi links to abbott and atleast as credible as alan jones. thump that tub boyo

 

[dibo]

Dibo

Assume the election is close and the Libs win by less than 20 .... do you think the ALP will change leaders or leave Kev in place ? ...

Second assumption Libs win by over 25 .... is the answer the same ? ....

I think that either way, Rudd would be gone, because if we were out of power in Canberra, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth and Darwin and soon to be out of power in Adelaide and Hobart there'd have to be someone who is a bit more 'heart of the party' to lead a rebuild from National Secretariat outwards.

I think you'd look to the next generation - an Albanese or a Combet perhaps - someone close enough to the institutional centre of the party without being afraid of cracking a few eggs. Maybe even Tony Burke. They're unlikely to ever be Prime Minister but strong, respected characters who can take the party with them as they wander through the exodus of opposition (not that it'll be 40 years, but you know what I mean).

Rudd 'gets' the Party, I think he's learnt a lot from his time out of the leaders' chair, and I think he's going to get along with Caucus a lot better this time, but I don't think he's a long haul of opposition type of leader.

You need a loyal son/daughter, member at 15, lives and breathes the history kind of character to do that job.

 

[true believer]

a nice story for those people wanting the village idiot as prime minister.
if only malcom had the patent

http://www.news.com.au/national-new...the-internet8217/story-fncynjr2-1226671568832

 

[hasbeen]

a nice story for those people wanting the village idiot as prime minister.
if only malcom had the patent

http://www.news.com.au/national-new...the-internet8217/story-fncynjr2-1226671568832

Ha Ha ... this was covered yesterday in the SMH and the quote was a joke. Seems like you might be the village idiot.

 

[hasbeen]

Oh, and congratulations 'true believer', after three consecutive posts you managed one without referring to the Nazis.

 

[true believer]

you know some might believe you one day. but lets get back on topic just for you

how about a magda and Bronwyn look alike contest.

uncanny the resemblance.