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danny unlikely for olympics after fifa overturned decision

midfielder

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Justice ...................... one f up by the orginal FFA ban ............. do the pricks who F uped by giving such a stuipd ban ........... to appease the media me thinks ........... is justice going to be handed out to them.

Its all been said, no Olympics, no chance to showcase yourself to the world, 15 month ban means any overseas club will often look the other.


Justice .................... !!!!!!!!!
 

marinersman

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/beijing2008/shock-as-fifa-ends-vukovics-olympics/2008/06/10/1212863644415.html

Shock as FIFA ends Vukovic's Olympics
Sebastian Hassett
June 11, 2008

THE structured ban imposed on Danny Vukovic by Football Federation Australia which would have allowed the keeper to compete at the Beijing Olympics was overturned by football's governing body in a shock move last night.

Originally suspended from competing at the August 8-24 Games after being handed a 15-month suspension for striking referee Mark Shield at the conclusion of the 2007-08 A-League grand final, Vukovic made three appeals. These eventually saw the ban reduced to being applicable until June 24, and then again from all games between August 29 to October 5. However, FIFA determined that an interruption to the ban at an international level was contrary "to the spirit" of the sport's regulations, and upgraded the ban to apply without interruption until October 5, with a further suspended period lasting until January 25, 2009.

While Vukovic's club, the Central Coast Mariners, opted against allowing Vukovic to speak publicly, Mariners chief executive Lyall Gorman said the club was under the impression the matter had been effectively resolved.

"I feel frustrated, disappointed and surprised to be honest," Gorman told the Herald last night. "We were under the very clear understanding that this was more or less a ratification process from FIFA.

"Our legal advice was that they didn't have the capacity to change the decision as such, and we made a submission accordingly to that. We were invited by FIFA, as was the FFA, to make submissions with a view as to why the penalty shouldn't apply to the Olympics, and we did that, and we made a very strong submission, as did the FFA, and it appears those points haven't been taken on board by FIFA."

However, Gorman said the club was acquiring legal advice on behalf of their 23-year-old goalkeeper.

"It's shattering stuff, but it's not over yet," Gorman said. "It's not over till the fat lady sings, and we're seeking legal advice from senior counsel. We're expecting to get feedback from them on Friday, and if there is deemed to be an appropriate avenue of appeal, we will.

"We've got to accept the umpire's decision at some stage, and it might be as early as when we get legal advice, or there might be one more round to go. We've got to make sure that decision is as fair and as right as it can be."

Gorman said all parties needed to appreciate the ups and downs Vukovic had undergone since the incident, especially now his Olympic dream had been denied once again. "Our hearts go out to Danny," he said. "It's just one of the most amazing scenarios I think I've seen in sport."

While FIFA laws still permit FFA and the player to make an appeal, FFA has already decided it will accept FIFA's judgment.

Reading's Adam Federici is likely to replace Vukovic in the Olyroos.
 

Bex

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midfielder said:
Justice ...................... one f up by the orginal FFA ban ............. do the pricks who F uped by giving such a stuipd ban ........... to appease the media me thinks ........... is justice going to be handed out to them.

Its all been said, no Olympics, no chance to showcase yourself to the world, 15 month ban means any overseas club will often look the other.


Justice .................... !!!!!!!!!

Lets not get silly about this. Danny didn't sack whack a ref, or poke a ref in the chest, or push a ref over. It was a girly slap on an arm born out of frustration due to an absolutely shocking ruling from at least 2 of the three officials.

I guess in the late 18th century a slap on the arm could have ended in being sent to Australia as a convict, but I would like to think that punishments are a little more appropriate these days. Honestly, if the punishment doesn't fit the crime, now and in the future, how are we to expect anything but the same angst time and time again?

Geese, either destroy the kid's olympic dreams (very harsh in my opinion) or put him out of the A-League comp for several matches, but not both. IT WAS A GIRLY SLAP ON THE ARM, NOT A VISCOUS ATTACK. NOBODY IS ABOUT TO THINK ITS OKAY TO TOUCH A REF BASED ON THIS INCIDENT. IF ANYTHING, ITS THE CHEST POKE AND SACK-WHACK THAT SENDS THAT MESSAGE; WHY SHOULD DANNY BE THE SCAPEGOAT FOR PREVIOUS STUFF UPS????
 

Don

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Danny must be so over it by now,makes me sick how other turds get away
with things!!
 

Paolo

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Arabmariner said:
adz said:
someone should come up with a chant for holland...
Isn't that what keensy did in the other thread!! :p
hahah and was blasted for it.

I'm on Jaza's side actually, fair ban imo and the whole split suspension thing was ridiculous
 

~Floss~

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Shield got it right: no doubt that what Danny did was a red card offence and worthy of referreal to a judiciary for further suspension. (Although he and his assistant were blind to miss the handball, that's why we still have human ref's; it's part of the game).

It seems painfully unjust as others have gotten away with similar before, but that doesn't mean we should be complaining the first time he gets it right.


The real problem here is FFA's bungled appeals process and their dodgy excuse for an outcome. Should have realised there was never any way FIFA would endorse a suspension with a "gap" in the middle at the same time as the Olympics.

Also the number of times the outcome has changed and the amount of time it has taken is probably worse punishment for Danny than the actual suspension he'll end up with
 

Kareem

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FIFA did 100% right...and I thought they might step in because it was absolutely ludicrous (the gap inbetween the ban).
FFA are to blame....
On the topic of why Griffiths case wasnt examined by Fifa was that there was no case...they was no judicary and no punishment- hence FIFA didnt have the oppurtunity to do anything about it...

Can someone please tell me why FFA couldnt have given a 'x' matches suspension in HAL??? I thought that was the standard punishment in other leagues...if it was macthes instead of months it would have been more logical and sensible!
 

graaant

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El Kareemo, thanks for reinforcing your knowledge for us all. But you should also know that FIFA did not change any sentence, regardless of whether or not it was matches, or dates.
FIFA came in and said "Buckley, you're a dick, this gap is stupid" and reinstated the original 12 MONTH ban.
And that's that.
 

Gen (MarinerMum)

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Football authorities suck big time.

FFA has no balls

FIFA is just the italian marfia - paying referee's off

In Australia of course, we intellectualise it too much.  Overseas Football and winning a world cup brings money into their country so decisions are made because of the overall finacial benefit to the country.  No because we are the almight making richeous decisions.

My banner will say everything I want it to say and scream infront of Frank's Foxtel.

Danny my thoughts are with you.  I'm so so sad.
 

Andy

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Kareem said:
FIFA did 100% right...and I thought they might step in because it was absolutely ludicrous (the gap inbetween the ban).
FFA are to blame....
On the topic of why Griffiths case wasnt examined by Fifa was that there was no case...they was no judicary and no punishment- hence FIFA didnt have the oppurtunity to do anything about it...

Can someone please tell me why FFA couldnt have given a 'x' matches suspension in HAL??? I thought that was the standard punishment in other leagues...if it was macthes instead of months it would have been more logical and sensible!

There was a judicial system in place at the time.

The reason it oculdn't have been dealt with is because the c*nt had been yellow carded by the referee, meaning his punishment had been dealt and FFA couldn't intervene. It sucks, but the rules are rules.

IMO it is a fair ban. You just can not touch a referee and expect to get away with it. It just sucks that Danny's hopes were raise only to be dashed. It could have been a lot worse people and we should be grateful that Danny wil only miss around 5 A-League games.
 

Paolo

Well-Known Member
Andy said:
Kareem said:
FIFA did 100% right...and I thought they might step in because it was absolutely ludicrous (the gap inbetween the ban).
FFA are to blame....
On the topic of why Griffiths case wasnt examined by Fifa was that there was no case...they was no judicary and no punishment- hence FIFA didnt have the oppurtunity to do anything about it...

Can someone please tell me why FFA couldnt have given a 'x' matches suspension in HAL??? I thought that was the standard punishment in other leagues...if it was macthes instead of months it would have been more logical and sensible!

There was a judicial system in place at the time.

The reason it oculdn't have been dealt with is because the c*nt had been yellow carded by the referee, meaning his punishment had been dealt and FFA couldn't intervene. It sucks, but the rules are rules.
not entirely, Remember Ben Thatcher on Pedro Mendes last season?? That only received a yellow card yet he was still suspended
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
keensy said:
Andy said:
Kareem said:
FIFA did 100% right...and I thought they might step in because it was absolutely ludicrous (the gap inbetween the ban).
FFA are to blame....
On the topic of why Griffiths case wasnt examined by Fifa was that there was no case...they was no judicary and no punishment- hence FIFA didnt have the oppurtunity to do anything about it...

Can someone please tell me why FFA couldnt have given a 'x' matches suspension in HAL??? I thought that was the standard punishment in other leagues...if it was macthes instead of months it would have been more logical and sensible!

There was a judicial system in place at the time.

The reason it oculdn't have been dealt with is because the c*nt had been yellow carded by the referee, meaning his punishment had been dealt and FFA couldn't intervene. It sucks, but the rules are rules.
not entirely, Remember Ben Thatcher on Pedro Mendes last season?? That only received a yellow card yet he was still suspended

and there is a legitimate (and hitherto unanswered) question as to what the card was for. if the card was for dissent by word or action, then the violent conduct was never dealt with on the field.

if the card was for violent conduct, breeze should have been busted down to kids' park football for not sending him off.
 

Bex

Well-Known Member
Andy said:
It could have been a lot worse people and we should be grateful that Danny wil only miss around 5 A-League games.

That is, 5 A-League games PLUS the olympics games!
 

marconigirl

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I heard this on the news yesterday and it completely ruined my birthday.. :(
Worst birthday present ever...

What a horrible thing to happen to poor Danny...

:redcard: FIFA
 

Andy

Well-Known Member
Am I the only person that finds it hilarious that both Scum and Sydney fans are happy about this decision even though it doesn't benefit them in anyway. Expecially since it actually disadvantages them because he will play against them in the first two rounds.
 

Tassiemariner

Well-Known Member
Is there any possible way this ban could of been A-League only in the first place?
Is that possible/legal?

If so, Danny could of got an 8 week ban and would of saved FIFA/FFA/CCM alot of time, hassle and money.
 

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