clarifying a small point about Roy.

[localpom]

Disgraceful decision. 4 weeks would have been more than enough. He deserved punishment but that's way over the top and once again we are the club to be made a scapegoat of. There's no way a Sydney or Victory player would have got 8 weeks for that. It was poor judgement from Roy but he was provoked by Muscat who only got 2 weeks. Was that 8 times worse than Mattys? Oh well, if there is a positive, someone ( Heff, Stella, Bing,Fitz) will need to come in and will get valuable game time which will help us going into next season.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Guessing it wont be Heff or Fitz.

Ask for a release from your contract and expect to play?

Doors that way mate

 

[BrisRecky]

8 weeks and a black eye....I dont believe in conspiracies as a rule, but do you reckon if it was anybody else in any capital city team, they would of got 8, i doubt it
yes, he shouldnt of done it, but if you get harrangued the whole game and then get your eye busted open and the "guy who only referees to stay fit for cricket" ignores your pleas for justice, you'd snap too, although as I said before, that wasnt a headbutt, If it was a proper headbutt, Muscats nose and cheekbones would be history...so whose gonna be up the pointy end now

 

[dibo]

Again, if you have to work out if something is a f**kup or a conspiracy, bet on f**kup every time.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Agree with "wasnt a real headbutt" a real one and Muscat would still be eating through a straw.

However, I think they allowed a couple of weeks for an appeal and we will end up at 6

 

[Luca Brasi]

I think it gets back to this

(b) a failure to remedy the Obvious Error would be prejudicial to the interests or
good image of football in Australia,

Headbutting as part of a stoush is much less accepted in Australia than it is in the UK, if he retaliated with an elbow then you would expect less.
The FFA was not prepared to let this incident allow the media to portray football as condoning this type of violence.
Despite all of the mitigating circumstances, the visuals of the tup given are awful.
I thought 4 weeks would be a good outcome, hoping for 6 but not surprised by 8.
Local penalties for R2 Violent Conduct are:
Head butting, prescribed penalty 5 matches, maximum penalty 2 years.
Elbowing to the head, prescribed penalty 4 matches, maximum penalty 16 matches.
Long holiday for your highest profile signing of the season and only experienced striker.

 

[localpom]

Guessing it wont be Heff or Fitz.

Ask for a release from your contract and expect to play?

Doors that way mate

Hoping Fitz comes to his senses and knuckles down. I'd love to see Heff have a few games as a out and out number 9.

 

[true believer]

Again, if you have to work out if something is a f**kup or a conspiracy, bet on f**kup every time.

Yeah there is a f'k up by kgj .
But the fox stooges were howling over this without the slightest mention of muskrats repeated assults .

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Again, if you have to work out if something is a f**kup or a conspiracy, bet on f**kup every time.

Quoted for truth. Every single club believes there's a conspiracy against them.
Heck, have the clubs in CCF think there's a conspiracy against them!
That means either it's all garbage, or there's a conspiracy against every club.
I remember somebody on the coast copped 12 weeks for a headbutt, while a punch would normally net, what, 2-3?
Personally, this is what I expected - I know authorities take a very, very dim view of headbutts. Whether the perception is fair or not, the perception is that a headbutt is more violent than most other acts. And the perception, again, is that something off-the-ball is more sinister than on-the-ball.
But agree with others, it's disappointing how Muscat - who has a history of elbows and clearly ran back in mouthing off - has gotten off scot-free in the media. This incident has gone around the world, but many clips show only the headbutt.

 

[dibo]

In my association, elbowing to the head draws a minimum of 4 matches up to 16 matches, headbutting draws 6 up to 2 years...

 

[Pirate Pete]

I think it gets back to this

(b) a failure to remedy the Obvious Error would be prejudicial to the interests or
good image of football in Australia,

Headbutting as part of a stoush is much less accepted in Australia than it is in the UK, if he retaliated with an elbow then you would expect less.
The FFA was not prepared to let this incident allow the media to portray football as condoning this type of violence.
Despite all of the mitigating circumstances, the visuals of the tup given are awful.
I thought 4 weeks would be a good outcome, hoping for 6 but not surprised by 8.
Local penalties for R2 Violent Conduct are:
Head butting, prescribed penalty 5 matches, maximum penalty 2 years.
Elbowing to the head, prescribed penalty 4 matches, maximum penalty 16 matches.
Long holiday for your highest profile signing of the season and only experienced striker.

Whereas ripping your shirt off at the end of a game and trying to fight an opposing player was only worth a week when Berisha tried it.
I can't see how that was a good image for the game.

 

[nebakke]

Whereas ripping your shirt off at the end of a game and trying to fight an opposing player was only worth a week when Berisha tried it.
I can't see how that was a good image for the game.

But that's Berisha - he's just passionate! /s

 

[Ancient Mariner]

And when I was a boy striking an official got you suspended for life. Griffiths got a yellow.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

And when I was a boy striking an official got you suspended for life. Griffiths got a yellow.

You know the stupid part? This bit about the FFA not being able to deal with him was absolute garbage - he was booked for dissent by word because he said something as he got up; the strike wasn't dealt with at all!!!

Anybody remember the two Glory players punching on after a match?

 

[MagpieMariner]

What pisses me off is the word "viscious" used by every media report I've seen. Used only about Paddy's retaliation, never about Musc**t's elbow. Had to have had some effect on the judiciary.

 

[pjennings]

Guessing it wont be Heff or Fitz.

Ask for a release from your contract and expect to play?

Doors that way mate

I don't think Heff asked for a release - just told that he won't be renewed.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Agree. Was referring to Fitz.

Not even in the squad but Sim is. Message delivered

 

[style_cafe]

8 weeks is disgraceful when you look at other incidents.
The fact that Muscat, who initiated the incident with the elbow, then ran at O`Donovan in a threatening manner, only got 2 weeks makes it a farce.
Sure O`Donovan was wrong in what he did but for Christ`s sake what was he supposed to do?
Muscat was clearly in the wrong, clearly started the incident & clearly incited the retaliation.
O`Donovan had accepted the decision & was clearly walking away.
Methinks if Roy had said Muscat had made rascist remarks he would have been hailed a hero.
Maybe an appeal should head that way?

 

[true believer]

Methinks if Roy had said Muscat had made rascist remarks he would have been hailed a hero.

the bastard bagged guiness !

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Yep.

Way I see it:

• If Muscat does not elbow Roy... the incident never happens and their is no head butt, no disrepute upon the game, and no suspension.
• If Roy goes down to try as Muscat and many other cheats do to get the other player sent off... their is no head butt, no disrepute upon the game, and no suspension.
• If the referee acts correctly and books Muscat... their is no head butt, no disrepute upon the game, and no suspension.
• If after Roy's appeal to the referee, even if he isn't interested or missed the action, he simply pulls in what are clearly two agitated players to speak with them as he should... their is no head butt, no disrepute upon the game, and no suspension.
• If after Roy has been elbowed, ignored, and then ran off to get on with things, Muscat did not follow him and run in at him to have another dig... their is no head butt, no disrepute upon the game, and no suspension.
• But all these things occur, and are allowed to occur, and Roy lashes out violently, and is rightly cited and punished (Length of ban debate aside)

The facts are that there are several things beyond Roy O'Donovan's control, which finally led to him losing control. This is not an incident he started. He then sought intervention from the proper authorities after what has been judged as violent conduct. He then sought to avoid any further involvement...
Yet this seems to have had no baring on the MRP. The commentators and press. Unless they were going to ban him for the full length of the season.
He should be punished. But it should be placed within it's context and it is hard to accept that it has when Muscat and the referee should both have been punished as harshly or harsher.