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Central Coast Mariners Squad for 2009/10 HAL Season

dibo

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you're assuming that the only reason that hutch gets a gig is because he's lawrie's favourite rather than that he was the best person for the job. i've argued at length in the past that while his form wasn't good last year, he was still the only person who could credibly play the role he was playing.

if that is not the case this year (and there are other players who can slot in there this year) then he will have to be the best person for the job, rather than the only person for it.
 

midfielder

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mariners4ever said:
midfielder said:
midfielder said:
Could this work… I recall reading that Huke  could play in central defense and as a defensive Mid… If we sign Michael McGlinchey and given we have Nicky Travis… Could we have Huke & Doig as our central defenders and Travis & McGinchey in centre mid with Wilko as a right back…

Meaning the central spine of the side is all new ...
Part_Timer said:
huke is out for a while *knee*

OK but could when he returns this combination work..

not if hutcho is injury free and lawrie is still here

If Travis / Huke & McGinchey are as good as some are saying Hutch will be if a fight with Kassie & Caceras for the left mid spot..
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
http://www.theworldgame.com.au/videos/details/index.php?playlistId=18

The A-League part 4 ... is where Fozzie discussses us ... very surprising he does not rate us .. funny he spoke of Doin signing .. but not Travis or Huke ... or the returning Elrich ...


True story as was told to me... only found this out about a month ago ... comes from a very good sourse ... but pre Hal when JON was tring to work out what eight teams to put in... the Mariners had put their name in and two bids where not in but close to going in ... one from western Sydney which consisited of two former NSL clubs and a Satate league club who grounds are within about 3 Kl of each other ... and a Southern Melbourne bid... these bids never formally went in ...BUT Les rang JON and said the Mariners had no football history and these two bids do... can you reconsider... JON did and to his great credit he said they do not tick all the boxes and the Mariners do ... Les was not pleased I am told... 

Postscript I don't know how just to get A-League part 4 from the SBS ... sorry for the list..
 

FFC Mariner

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Lets face it, if we changed out name to something like Athletico Gosford, only signed players from S America and were managed by an ex S American international, then (and only then) would SBS think we deserve a place.

The reverse racism/cultural cringe from these people as they play to the tiny minority of Australians who make up their target audience is sickening.

Best bet, ignore them, their silly station and website.

They are an irrelevance quite frankly
 

Marquee

Well-Known Member
Lol Foz at his best.

He's critical of Doig's signing but rates Hyphenator. Wtf??

And since when has an A-league player gone to the Premier League?
 

scottmac

Suspended
FFC Mariner said:
Lets face it, if we changed out name to something like Athletico Gosford, only signed players from S America and were managed by an ex S American international, then (and only then) would SBS think we deserve a place.

The reverse racism/cultural cringe from these people as they play to the tiny minority of Australians who make up their target audience is sickening.

Best bet, ignore them, their silly station and website.

They are an irrelevance quite frankly

While i agree with what you say, i think they still have a major part to play in the future of football in Australia. I definitley think a televised youth league would be something that SBS would love and so would i.
 

bulldogmariner

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Marquee said:
Lol Foz at his best.

He's critical of Doig's signing but rates Hyphenator. Wtf??

And since when has an A-league player gone to the Premier League?
He didnt even know his name. Poor form!
He said gentleman from Northampton Town. Does he know that Doig played in the EPL @ age 17.
Or our best players who leave the A-League go to Turkey, Germany or Championship in England.
I think FOZ needs to look in the mirror and think about what the A-League has to offer. It is still developing and we are not going to play like the national team.
Look where Michael Theo went who was one of the best keepers in this league. League 1 Norwich City.
 

bulldogmariner

Well-Known Member
FFC Mariner said:
*cough Leijer
Hang on has Leijer actually played or established himself in first team football. He went out on loan to relegated Norwich City so hardly setting the world on fire. But i take your point.
 

elevated position

Well-Known Member
when you think about it SBS has been  a good fighter for football when the others couldn't care less. However the tossers that run the show are a different bunch. Athletico Gosford or
Real Coast might get some positives from foster. Where does foster with his heritage get so narky about the game played in his own home.
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
bulldogmariner said:
FFC Mariner said:
*cough Leijer
Hang on has Leijer actually played or established himself in first team football. He went out on loan to relegated Norwich City so hardly setting the world on fire. But i take your point.

Whilst he was bought by a lunatic manager with nfi who nearly killed the club, he was on the verge of the 1st team until the debacle that was our Olympics campaign.

Came back unfit having missed pre season and has never got back to that point  as they had/have the shits with him.

Cheers Arnoldout
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
midfielder said:
http://www.theworldgame.com.au/videos/details/index.php?playlistId=18

The A-League part 4 ... is where Fozzie discussses us ... very surprising he does not rate us .. funny he spoke of Doin signing .. but not Travis or Huke ... or the returning Elrich ...


True story as was told to me... only found this out about a month ago ... comes from a very good sourse ... but pre Hal when JON was tring to work out what eight teams to put in... the Mariners had put their name in and two bids where not in but close to going in ... one from western Sydney which consisited of two former NSL clubs and a Satate league club who grounds are within about 3 Kl of each other ... and a Southern Melbourne bid... these bids never formally went in ...BUT Les rang JON and said the Mariners had no football history and these two bids do... can you reconsider... JON did and to his great credit he said they do not tick all the boxes and the Mariners do ... Les was not pleased I am told... 

Postscript I don't know how just to get A-League part 4 from the SBS ... sorry for the list..

FFC Mariner said:
Lets face it, if we changed out name to something like Athletico Gosford, only signed players from S America and were managed by an ex S American international, then (and only then) would SBS think we deserve a place.

The reverse racism/cultural cringe from these people as they play to the tiny minority of Australians who make up their target audience is sickening.

Best bet, ignore them, their silly station and website.

They are an irrelevance quite frankly

While I totally agree with your feelings ... I think because of past history SBS still have a huge influence and will continue to do so... Les Murry is still attached to Old Soccer and as long as he is there ... no real change will happen...

IMO Fozzie is a fool for hanging around because after the next media deal is done either 9 or 10 will have the FTA rights and he is not doing his imagine any good with his very selective statements...

If you listen to the A-League part 1, when Fozzie starts talking about Fury he openly states we need to remove Scottish people from coaching and we have to remove the British influence from our game... I am not a POM ... BUT fark that is just insulting and so plan wrong ... if their is blame it is with the NSL and the way they developed Football ... and who does he think build the fields and the associations from 1873 ...

A poster called King Kwell on the MV forum calls SBS """the enemy within"""  he may be right after his selective talks about Fury & the Mariners ... with Fury he never said they have signed David Williams ...


Arrrrrr back to work....
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
Fosters proud coaching record and day to day involvement with the loca lgame gives him the platform that he preaches from.

What?

You're kidding?

Never?

Foster...........f**k off
 

clarence

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I feel it is correct to credit the SBS people with 'maintaining the rage' when the old C7 saga turned ugly and there was absolutely NO interest in Football. And they did have Johnny Warren trying, trying, all the bloody time, trying, to knock down walls and have reforms made into Football.

They gave Johnny Warren the medium from which he could, with others (and that included Murray), discuss the issues surrounding the sport at that time. I shudder what would have happened if even SBS had shunned football in Australia.

So, for that, we have to be grateful and respectful of their heritage of following the sport and championing it, even when it was horribly out of fashion with most other parts of Australian society.

However, Johnny Warren has passed on, and the Crawford Report has exposed what happened back then. People have been named and it does make those responsible for all that corruption and deceit very camera shy these days.

We now have a new peak Federation. We have a new National premier competition. Structural and philosophical changes HAVE happened and will continue to happen.

While we can dip our hats to the Late JW for some of this, I feel it safe to say that what Johnny Warren was advocating has mostly happened, is under way, or will happen soon. I feel that he can truly Rest In Peace.

Nonetheless, for all that, it is heartbreaking to hear the likes of Foster ( a mere minion of a man to Warren's stature) obsessively berate the limitations of the A-League, the inferiority of the clubs, the inabilities of the players and coaches.

For someone who obviously must be a student of the game, I find it hard to fathom why he chooses to attack the game he so much loves, so often.

Yes, these limitations and inferiorities do exist. Perhaps they are a legacy from a sport that was for so long a pariah in our culture.

Doesn't he realise though, that Rome wasn't built in a day, and that steps that both he and The Late Johnny Warren have advocated are happening or will happen. It's just that it cannot be done overnight.

For example, improving technical proficiencies at both player and coach level will take a generation.

The 11 or 12 year old kids are the ones to watch, they are receiving training and coaching that far exceeds the previous generation's tuition. Their coaches are upgrading the qualifications they need to coach. A generation may be as long as ten years, but by that time, we should be seeing a hugely superior group of coaches and players that will possibly cast aside many at the top level in Australia who are technically deficient.

I predict that the younger current A-League players might end up having a shorter career than they thought they'd have, as the more younger players prove technically mature and able to take on the top level of Football in Australia, and push for permanent spots in the senior team on ability alone.

All this is happening and the predictions are not too far fetched.

And yet, SBS mercilessly attack the game here in Australia, use the racial distinctions of some in the A-League as a cue to generalise those from the same race, and generally tell everyone, that, well, this A-League isn't much chop you know.

I wish they'd change their attitude and say it's the Premier League of Football in Australia, accept that principle and push less aggressively, the need for improvement at all levels.

Sadly they won't do that, as they childishly act along the lines of it being someone else's product and they therefore cannot like it.

As for the Scottish smear, look at the two more succesful coaches in the A-League - Lawrie McKinna & Ernie Merrick. BOTH have been at their respective clubs since they started up, both have won silverware and have the ;large support of both their club and fan base.

And Foster doesn't want that???????????
 

Arabmariner

Well-Known Member
Well if the c**t wants to remove the British influence from our game perhaps the expats in the stadiums should remove themselves aswell.

Without knowing figures I wouldn't mind betting that would account for a double figure percentage.

That c**t made his living playing in England and is on record stating that he learned more from Terry Venables than any other coach.

Foster's under the thumb of Les Murray and does and says what he's told imo.And Murray has turned into a miserable old bastard with the shits because he didn't get what he wanted (TV rights) and the other Sydney team if Midfielders post is correct.

Wouldn't it be nice if Lawrie or Fergie bumped into Foster one night in a dark ally............. :mad:
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
Fergie, Moyes, Wallace and Shankley were really Spanish were they?

That explains it

Quite frankly, I dont care where a coach or a player comes from as long as he does the job. However, I dont work somewhere where you can demand the removal of people because of their race  (in fact its sackable where I work)
 

Jazzie

Sheer joy at beating the scum :)
I had a really bad day at work yesterday dealing with GOMs and Mental Midgets....... arrrrghhh, and then this morning I read through these posts, and i just want to ... SCREAM.

GOM's and Mental Midgets abound at SBS Football ... my personal distaste of Fozzie does not in any way add to the fact that imo he is the Mightiest Mental Midget of all in football media.

Johnny Warren was a true Australian and a true visionary .... who fought so hard to raise the bar in Australian Football. Frank Lowery's nous, guts and very big wallet made it happen.

Who remembers the race hate filled games in the old NSL? I do. Football then was staring into an abyss ... and now Australia has a fine football a-league ... was worth the pain of those first few years.

The a-league will change, adapt and strengthen, with or without the Mighty Mental Midget . He is just a peice of FLOSS floating on the wind (sorry, Floss ... casting no aspersions on you).

I miss Johnny Warren ... I wonder what he would have thought about the a-league as it s now?

And Arab, the first ever football league games were played by Scottish teams in Australia, from memory, down in the Southern Highlands or Cooma area I think ... so there, Fozzie!


ummmmmmmmmmmm .... said my bit,  now going to have a cup of java.

Edit: the first ever football league games were played by Scottish teams in Australia, from memory ... just to get this right ... I wasn't born then....LOL...
 
S

striker

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Jazzie said:
Edit: the first ever football league games were played by Scottish teams in Australia, from memory ... just to get this right ... I wasn't born then....LOL...

I think that there was some teams started by pommie immigrants who came to work in the mines at newcastle?
 

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