CCM Fans and the club

[dibo]

I think the balance needs tweaking at times. As I was saying above, at the moment the band is too dominant in the sound (e.g. there are frustrating things like when they sing "sha la lalala lala..." there's no f**king tune, and it drones on well after the singing stops because the fella on the trumpet takes the opportunity to play a long solo apparently to cover the fact that there's no f**king tune and nobody singing).

If they were even just to learn the f**king tune I'd be less annoyed about it.

TBH, I have come to hate the song. If you click here you'll see that it's a two-line tune, at the moment we only hear one!


It's like between the band and the bay (and this goes back to when I was still in the Bay) we don't have the attention span to learn the whole tune. Two f**king lines. We have a f**king band with f**king sheet music, how can we still be getting that wrong?

And because we get bored of repeating the one line over and over, and it has no shape or progression, we get the 'gift' of a trumpet solo to give it some interest. It only serves to highlight that we've got the song all wrong.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Yep. What really matters is how the guys doing it feel, but it's the only chant the guys do that I feel that way about. Though for mine even in the vid above with a shit load of voices it still sounds weak compared to so many other chants. I think the phonetics has a lot to do with that or maybe I just don't like the tune. Horses for courses I guess.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

The band think they are the stars. They arent

Away games are still >>>> home games where everyone comes together. Newcastle was as good as it's been for some time.

Sydney on boxing day will be better still

The band are the active support.

Without them their is very little.

 

[dibo]

I don't think that's fair. There was plenty in Newcastle with no band.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

I was part of the Marinators for the first 3 seasons.

What made it work was the intelligent people who were active.

Great events were golf days, Kendall Bar, away trips, table at the Club's annual presentation dinner, helping to organise the Club's first fan day, and game against Locomotive Cove.

Apart from the fan day the Club back them kept the Marinators at arms length almost as though we were an embarrassment. Not being allowed to award our trophy on the stage but having to do it after at the back of the hall still gets up my nose. A bit of support from the Club would have gone a long way and possibly allowed the group to grow and be like the Cove, but meh, water under the bridge.

What with the movement around the stadium, the loss of key organisers (for various reasons) and the splits it all just died. Very sad.

Around that time I moved to seats to where I could see the game, which made an enormous difference to my perception of the contributions of various players. It was amazing I can now see parts of the game that were invisible from Bay 16, and not necessarily even shown on tv.

I suspect other serious supporters from the early seasons have made similar seating moves.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

I don't think that's fair. There was plenty in Newcastle with no band.

Away support as mentioned above when all come together is great. It is Bay 16 I am referring to.

 

[Gratis]

Yeah I have to sit mid-stadium - as much as I enjoy getting into the spirit and making noise I just love watching the game too much to miss as much as you do from Bay16

 

[Ancient Mariner]

Getting an active support end that satisfies all is just about an impossible task.

I used to enjoy the active support at NSO in the NSL days in the Mac Terrace. Mainly British in derivation, witty, good songs, not continuous, no instruments and one excellent leader. The game was the important thing as well as having fun.

Others, in the Bob Stand, were generally younger and preferred continuous noise and seemed keener on being the active support. Totally different, but a bit in the direction of the RBB.

Active support means different things to different people;
being part of the spectacle (to some more important than the game),
supporting the team, (trying to give a lift),
having a laugh with like minded fans,
being part of the pack, (oops poorly phrased )
waving flags and banners,
banging drums or blowing trumpets,

or any combination of the above plus others.

Some of these things will appeal while some will drive fans away.

If you look at each of the current active groups in the A League no two are the same.

I guess what I am trying to say is that active support will evolve to where those that want to be in the active support bay want it to be. However you do need a critical mass of obsessed fans. If you get the numbers and set it on the right track it will grow and evolve further.

Unfortunately the Marinators' evolution was cut short and there is still a niche to be filled. Which I fear will not happen until we start getting serious total numbers to the home games.

 

[priorpeter]

The band are the active support.

Just when I think it's safe to pop my head up on the forum....

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Pretty sure most don't see it that way PP. Think you guys have been doing a great job especially through what is now our most difficult period.

 

[Gratis]

Definitely, plenty of support here PP

 

[Ancient Mariner]

Just when I think it's safe to pop my head up on the forum....

The statement was not meant to detract from your fine efforts with small numbers.

It was more a statement of support for the band who I felt were being given a hard time on this thread.

 

[Rowdy]

Mariners consider home match on Gold Coast:

The Central Coast Mariners are in early discussions to bring an A-League match to the Gold Coast next season.

The Mariners would be the home team and play against Brisbane Roar, allowing them to pocket gate takings from fans travelling down to cBus Super Stadium at Robina.

It's understood the original approach was made by the Gold Coast City Council and the Roar to Central Coast, who are open to selling home games because of the club's financial situation, and will 'host' Melbourne Victory in an A-League fixture at Geelong's Simonds Stadium next month.

The Mariners declined to comment, but Brisbane Roar chief executive David Pourre said they would welcome any rival side wishing to bring more games to Queensland, where they remain the sole A-League franchise.

"Any other A-League club that wants to take one of their games to Queensland - the Gold Coast, Cairns, Sunshine Coast, wherever it may be - we would certainly do anything we could to help them," Pourre told AAP.

"Why wouldn't we? It'd be a fantastic advantage to our club and help lift the profile of football in this stage if we can get more football content.

"My job is to protect and grow the Brisbane Roar, but importantly I'm trying to grow the game as well."

Mariners chief executive Shaun Mielekamp told an audience at a pre-match function last week the club was looking at potentially taking home games to Canberra and other regional areas.

Previous plans to stage several matches per season in North Sydney were scrapped because of supporter discontent, but the prospect of just one match in a different market would be far more palatable for fans and indeed may become the reality for some clubs under the current A-League financial model.

If successful, the match would continue Gold Coast's slow and steady rebuild as a football region since the demise of the Clive Palmer-owned Gold Coast United in 2012.

The Gold Coast City Council last year appointed former Roar CEO Eugenie Buckley as a full-time consultant to help them build a strategy surrounding football, which led to Manchester City's pre-season training camp and sellout friendly match against Melbourne City, while Brisbane Roar staged their AFC Champions League home matches at Robina earlier this year.

The Palm Beach Sharks also recently rebadged their National Premier Leagues operation, taking on the name Gold Coast City with the intention of garnering broader support and bidding for National Youth League and W-League licences.

 

[sydmariner]

Mariners consider home match on Gold Coast:
The Central Coast Mariners are in early discussions to bring an A-League match to the Gold Coast next season.

 

[nearlyyellow]

Mariners consider home match on Gold Coast:

You know, I kinda like the idea of one, and only one, home game being played up there. For us, it's not entirely unreachable. And if it has the support of the Gold Coast City Council and the Roar and all gate takings etc are ours, then maybe it would be a good thing. (Or maybe it's too late and I've had 1 too many red wines for me to be objective ) Is it traitorous of me to even think that way? What do you guys think?

 

[Gratis]

Heh the gold coast is notorious for selling out the stadium at robina... Oh wait

In fairness it'd be travelling roar fans so they'd get decent numbers. Haven't had time to process this so not sure how I feel about it yet though I have accepted 1 or 2 games away a years if it balances the books (and buy players that will allow us to compete in the competition)

 

[Big Al]

Our name is out there now as a seller and the other clubs are coming a calling. Much better than NSO where we never heard about $$$$ success.
Selling 1 Or 2 is fine just nothing in or around Sydney

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Obviously a long way from ideal. The teams has to travel and has no home support/advantage and we miss out on a home game. But I think it's needs must when the devil drives. Club survival is more important than the extra home game.

Surely just a short term solution though and if we can't get a much larger membership long term, then as Rowdy and I think it was Middy were talking about having a 5 or 8K seater at the COE would be strongly preferred . I'm not sure what the FFA's requirements are on HAL approved grounds though and how this may affect this possibility?

 

[Rowdy]

Are Gold Coast Council paying the club a fee to take the game there ?

We're going to earn something like $150k for taking this years game to Victoria as a standalone fee, with no expenses incurred for travel/accommodation according to Mielekamp.

Perhaps a bit more from share of gate takings and anything else possibly,

If it's not a like for like deal, as in CCM rent the ground, CCM pay for our team to travel/accommodation AND ONLY GET THE GATE TAKINGS .......sounds risky and a potential failure.

Just can't see the Roar fan's travelling in numbers to make it profitable without a guaranteed lump sum payment up front.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Roar fans absolutely hate going to Robina (shit ground in the middle of nowhere)

I'd want cash up front and a lot of it