CCM Fans and the club

[Forum Phoenix]

This is a complex issue as across the world ratings for traditional sports is falling on traditional broadcast platforms.

Football's fan base in Australia is highest in the under 30 demographic and most under 30's don't watch FTA TV and few watch subscription TV platforms.

Interestingly in a recent survey, people where asked to name their favourite Australian sporting teams. It was broken down by over 50, between 30 & 50, between 20 & 30 and under 20.

Over 50 cricket by light years.
30 to 50 cricket but with a big shift to Football.
20 to 30, Socceroos, Cricket & Matilda's
under 20, Socceroos, Matilda's, a big gap Cricket.

In the US the only code growing its base is the MLS and that is off a very low starting base, however NASCAR rating and crowds have almost collapsed, Hockey, Baseball hurting badly, Basketball & Gridiron both falling. Football as well in Europe is struggling to hold ratings on traditional platforms. In fact Amazon recently purchased some English Football rights out bidding traditional bidders.

Two things have stood out, first the increase in rating of both E-games [massive growth] and X-Games [BMX, Surfing, Ironman etc] and these are taking eyeballs away from traditional codes. Second is as mentioned the under 30 in particular simply wanta stream and don't wanta watch traditional platforms.

Football in Australia, has a younger demographic, so traditional platforms will suffer, but added to this are some recent changes to broadcasting rights. Telstra is free if you are a Telstra customer or only $ 99.00 dollars a year if you are not to watch all A-League, W-League, Socceroos and Matilda games.

Telstra is said to be over the moon with its take up and is refusing to share ratings claiming business reasons, insiders are saying and there is no way of either proving or disproving this that Telstra is equal or higher than Fox in the ratings.

Fox have reacted to the streaming issue by offering their own cut price sports offerings, which again is said to have a high take up but Fox like Telstra is refusing to release rating data.

There has also been the break caused by Optus of EPL & A-League, how many have gone to Optus who used to watch the A-League again is difficult to determine.

However add the 3 together, i.e Testra streaming, Fox Streaming & EPL at Optus then it has to have had a huge effect on Fox ratings.

To add to the complexity is the last 3 years of civil war between FFA and the clubs where FFA getting positive media was near impossible so as has been often the case in our past Australian Football fans torn the game apart each chasing their own wants and ideas. hopefully peace can be declared and we can again start talking up the league even SBS might write something positive.

Then we have the collision code media bias, add the ABC and the summer of Cricket and today we struggle for media in general, especially so since 9 purchased Fairfax and Fairfax went back to calling us soccer.

Finally their is the failed Fox's bid to get 10. America's CBS got 10, and Fox then withdrew all its programs it could from 10. One thing it could not was the A-League rights and CBS did not wanta help Fox, so our FTA partner in 10 is in a war with Fox and we are the mugs caught up in their little game.

There is much more to add but without key data tis impossible to be other than speculative..

I have spoken to a guy in Melbourne who says ...."" don't worry""" when the new body comes in they will expand to 16 teams fairly quickly, with a second Div up and running within 3 years ... further he says the media deal will be bigger and will not include Fox as a bidder for the rights, but Fox will buy the rights to some games .

Thanks Middy. Great post.

 

[BrisRecky]

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[Ozhammer]

i got Opera, its not too bad

I really can’t picture you singing opera sorry Recky!

 

[BrisRecky]

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[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

City have confirmed they'll release Fallin'rollin to any club bar Perth.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Is his attitude a risk?

We don’t need a second lazy - I’m too good for this league, let alone this shit house spooning team - striker

 

[Rowdy]

Adelaide were/are in the hunt for him, but it was the $$$'s he wants that was the sticking point.

Reports have him curently on about $500k at The Plastics. Adelaide obviously DON'T want to pay that or near abouts.

In all seriousness, do you think MC has a spare 'Half-Mill' laying around ??

If he did .... then I'd rather spend it on x2 more 'Hiariej' quality signings.

If Fornaroli slightly lowers his asking price, Adelaide or Sydney just beat us out with their counter offers.

Next.

 

[turbo]

If Fornaroli slightly lowers his asking price, Adelaide or Sydney just beat us out with their counter offers.

There’s the possibility we pick him up cheaper for the rest of the season to salvage something then he heads off to SFC when their marquee spot opens up at the end of the season (assuming ALF isn’t a backended marquee deal)

Doesn’t do much for next season but tries to stop the bleeding. Ideally though we’d be picking him up for 2.5 years to show intent to rebuild.

 

[scottmac]

There’s the possibility we pick him up cheaper for the rest of the season to salvage something then he heads off to SFC when their marquee spot opens up at the end of the season (assuming ALF isn’t a backended marquee deal)

Doesn’t do much for next season but tries to stop the bleeding. Ideally though we’d be picking him up for 2.5 years to show intent to rebuild.

And then Mulvey ruins his rep earned here and uses him as a10 with Simon up front and he leaves end of the year

 

[Ancient Mariner]

The whole future of MC salvaging anything from his investment may hinge on him making CCM a competitive Club rather than one on life support. At the moment I suspect they are trying to mount a convincing argument that things will turn around for us with the FFA.

Interesting times.

I know it is bad form quoting your own post, but maybe the above mentioned possibility is actually beginning.

I guess we will know when the new signings are announced and quality judged.

Maybe a faint light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[Rowdy]

I know it is bad form quoting your own post, but maybe the above mentioned possibility is actually beginning.

I guess we will know when the new signings are announced and quality judged.

Maybe a faint light at the end of the tunnel.

It will all boil down to :
- the amount of $$$'s he spends
- & importantly the quality of those signings per $ spent.

 

[turbo]

I guess we will know when the new signings are announced and quality judged.

I think these signings will make or break MM. IMO irrespective of contract his position is precarious at the moment. Should the second half of the season mirror the first his position would be untenable. There’s just no way you can sell him staying on to the fans & members in that situation. Not great for his employment prospects either. But maybe if the signings are ok and we improve rather than implode then maybe with more sensible choices over the off season people will be inclined to give him another chance.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Theres the Nepalese DM being rumored - like we need more DM's, plus Nichols and who knows what other shit is left in the bargain bin.

More interesting is who's going. Cisse, Ross (already gone) and who else?

 

[turbo]

like we need more DM's

Could be succession planning and depth. If it’s a quality signing we see Melling less. It’s not a position we should be focusing on but depending on what’s on offer an opportunistic signing wouldn’t be terrible unless it stops us addressing another more pressing spot.

 

[greenlig]

Theres the Nepalese DM being rumored

Eh? Wat u talking bout FFC?

 

[scottmac]

Could be succession planning and depth. If it’s a quality signing we see Melling less. It’s not a position we should be focusing on but depending on what’s on offer an opportunistic signing wouldn’t be terrible unless it stops us addressing another more pressing spot.

Yeah let's sign for depth in a position we have the most depth in. If we sign a DM for a replacement for either O'Neil or Tom then Mulvey can f**k right off and so can the rest of the management that let him do it

 

[Michael]

Ross was/is on buckets at Villa. Depending on how much of his wage we contributed. Completely unknown. But we have to have a real crack at fornaroli. He isn’t lazy on the field. He’d be brilliant for us. Unless as someone else suggested, Mulvey plays him behind Simon....

 

[FFC Mariner]

To be fair, Gamiero and Judas were terrible signings and we (hopefully) lose Hoole and Kennedy at the end of the season.

Replace them with players not quite as shit and its an upgrade of sorts

 

[Insertnamehere]

Given hutch coaches the Sounders 2. Does anyone understand how the community ownership works? It's 20% of their ownership.
I just feel like if we want our team to remain on the coast we have to invest, rather than just be ticket holders

 

[Wombat]

Im in.
Hutch wont be coaching and there will be plenty of our changes including having a frst 11 Goalkeeper.