Bosnich a Mariner ?????

[marinermick]

Of course Turnbull has a big say, but what's wrong with that? It's his money after all.

it's bad when it interferes with football business because you basically have a person not hired to make football decisions overriding decisions made by your skilled, experienced football staff

it may be the thin edge of the wedge here but it is a dangerous path to go down and you start getting jardel-like decisions

in fact there could be many comparisons between jardel and bosnich

i don't have enough information to know if board members are overly-influencing the coach's decision making, but it would concern if this would be the case

 

[Paolo]

Of course Turnbull has a big say, but what's wrong with that? It's his money after all.

because lawrie is the head coach and knows whats best for the side....not the property developer in a suit

 

[marinersman]

I know what you're saying Mick and I agree, but I think it's a reality at most privately owned Football clubs worldwide.

It shouldn't happen but I suspect it does every day. It just doesn't come out publicly.

 

[Deej]

IMO Bosnich would be a bad signing, he ain't played for 5 or so years and the reason for that is he got f**ked up on coke!  Previous to that he didn't have the best track record in the press anyway, sure people learn from their mistakes and I'm sure Bosnich has but I simply think he's not had enough football to prove he's worth a contract.......I would rather Filan IMHO if it's a short term contract we are after!  If Danny has a good Olympics who's to say he'll be back at all?

 

[northernspirit]

at the peak of their powers filan isnt half the keeper bozza was, having said that bozza would be a huge risk and one im not sure id like to risk 1/3 of the season on plus as dj says danny could be off for good so we need an option that could be permanent... not sure who, beltrame might be available but ive sung too many chants about him over the years so i hope not him!

 

[BAD BULLZ]

How has trotty been playing so far this preseason??Yes trotty had two fkd games which he was thrown into surley he has been working. his ass off @ training with crawley. Knowing he has his 1 chance to claim the number 1 spot in goals this is a rare chance being givin a whole off season knowing theres a vacancy for 7 weeks where you can show everyone what you got. If he cant step up now we might as well get rid of him.You'd have to think he would be a much better keeper now then last season.Remember Danny was number2 once aswell.I really think we should hold off signing a keeper especially an expensive one that hasn't played for years and see how the Trott goes in pre season.

 

[serious14]

Turnbull, whilst a top businessman and a great guy and all that, used to be involved with Sydney FC.  That says it all with regards to his football oriented decisions.

 

[jaypee]

Turnbull, whilst a top businessman and a great guy and all that, used to be involved with Sydney FC.  That says it all with regards to his football oriented decisions.

And your point is??? Remember he was involved Year ONE and if my memory serves correct they did win that year....... - fact is he left year 2.....

Fact is guy who has the money makes the decisions - look at Chelsea.... (doesn't mean all decisions are good.....)

 

[finally retired]

hey.......I am worried at the way this is turning out and that we are now putting shit onto the best run club in the A-league.  FACT - I submitted the rumor several weeks ago to 4-4-2 (I am Superpom)......I was concerned over our lack of goalkeeping cover with Danny out......I have long been a fan of Bosnich (despite his self-destruct) so joined the two pieces together.......and I have been very surprised at the way the story has grown and taken on a life of it's own......while I still think it could be a really good deal for the Mariners IF Bosnich is fit and still has what it takes, I am concerned that here we are now pointing the finger at Messrs Turnbull and Gorman saying they make decisions that aren't in the club's interests.....when has that happened ?  all that either has said about Bosnich is that he was a good player and the club may be interested in talking.....nothing more.  I have the highest regard for the Mariners executive who have managed to develop a strong brand which the whole coast identifies with, and which is looked at enviously by every other A-league (and NRL/AFL) club.....

so I humbly apologise and will try not to generate such mischief in the future...... 

 

[Sean]

Some people just talk shit and like to have a gripe with every single peice of news the club has to spurt out... dont worry about it.

 

[finally retired]

Some people just talk shit and like to have a gripe with every single peice of news the club has to spurt out... dont worry about it.

I guess my worry is that the major new threads on our forum all seem to be sniping at our executive.....perhaps some of it is justified (or perhaps we are bored with no local A-league to comment on) but I repeat that our executive is the envy of most other codes, and at this point haven't made any major blunders.

 

[serious14]

Turnbull, whilst a top businessman and a great guy and all that, used to be involved with Sydney FC.  That says it all with regards to his football oriented decisions.

And your point is??? Remember he was involved Year ONE and if my memory serves correct they did win that year....... - fact is he left year 2.....

Fact is guy who has the money makes the decisions - look at Chelsea.... (doesn't mean all decisions are good.....)

Was he not one of the main reasons they got rid of Littbarski, because they didn't want to pay him the dollars??  One of the best coaches the A-League has seen thus far, and because it doesn't fit in with the money men, he gets the flick??    Geez, I hope Lawrie doesn't ask for a pay-rise anytime soon.

As far as I'm concerned, he should sign the cheques, cross the t's and dot the i's, and leave the running of the football side of the club to the football people.

Using the Chelsea example - they desperately needed a centre back during the January transfer window, but because the money man got tight with his wallet, nothing...... despite the pleas of the _football_ people that this would be for the best.  Remind me again, how many trophies did Chelsea end the season with??

 

[Paolo]

Turnbull, whilst a top businessman and a great guy and all that, used to be involved with Sydney FC.  That says it all with regards to his football oriented decisions.

And your point is??? Remember he was involved Year ONE and if my memory serves correct they did win that year....... - fact is he left year 2.....

Fact is guy who has the money makes the decisions - look at Chelsea.... (doesn't mean all decisions are good.....)

Remind me again, how many trophies did Chelsea end the season with??

1 less then tottenham   geez i like reminding them of that 

 

[jaypee]

Turnbull, whilst a top businessman and a great guy and all that, used to be involved with Sydney FC.  That says it all with regards to his football oriented decisions.

And your point is??? Remember he was involved Year ONE and if my memory serves correct they did win that year....... - fact is he left year 2.....

Fact is guy who has the money makes the decisions - look at Chelsea.... (doesn't mean all decisions are good.....)

Was he not one of the main reasons they got rid of Littbarski, because they didn't want to pay him the dollars??  One of the best coaches the A-League has seen thus far, and because it doesn't fit in with the money men, he gets the flick??    Geez, I hope Lawrie doesn't ask for a pay-rise anytime soon.

As far as I'm concerned, he should sign the cheques, cross the t's and dot the i's, and leave the running of the football side of the club to the football people.

Using the Chelsea example - they desperately needed a centre back during the January transfer window, but because the money man got tight with his wallet, nothing...... despite the pleas of the _football_ people that this would be for the best.  Remind me again, how many trophies did Chelsea end the season with??

Serious - I used Chelsea as an example because they stick out like Dogs Balls. I wasn't using them as a good example - all I was stating was it happens in all clubs and we won't be any different.

As far as Litbarski goes - I am sure one of the reasons Turnball left was the inability of the board to offer the right terms. Fact is Turnball was only a bit partner at Sydney....

Until someone else sticks their hand in their pocket and forks out the money he does, he is entitled to a higher level of involvement and if that ,means he gets some say then so be it. I would hate to think where we would be without it.

I know that it would be ideal if all owners just signed the cheques but lets be real about this. Show me one major team worldwide where this happens.

 

[Sean]

Wouldn't Turnbull/Gorman be used to sway and attract players to the club? Isn't this their job that theyre experienced in and know the ins and out of negotiation etc? Im sure its not completely Lawries responsibility to meet n greet, negotiate etc. He has his own job to concentrate on ffs.

I dont know how this could be misinterpreted as doing a Con Constantine and purchasing players overiding the coach's decision.

 

[serious14]

I know that it would be ideal if all owners just signed the cheques but lets be real about this. Show me one major team worldwide where this happens.

To use the obvious, Manchester United.  It's common knowledge that the Glazers take Fergie at his word with regards to all of his transfer wheelings and dealings.  In other words, _they let the football people run the football part of the club_.

 

[Sean]

We're not Manchester United though. We don't have an international queue of players begging to be coached by Lawrie Mckinna.

 

[serious14]

We're not Manchester United though. We don't have an international queue of players begging to be coached by Lawrie Mckinna.

We did beat them at the Hong Kong Sevens though. 

 

[Jesus]

IMO Bosnich would be a bad signing, he ain't played for 5 or so years and the reason for that is he got f**ked up on coke!  Previous to that he didn't have the best track record in the press anyway, sure people learn from their mistakes and I'm sure Bosnich has but I simply think he's not had enough football to prove he's worth a contract.......I would rather Filan IMHO if it's a short term contract we are after!  If Danny has a good Olympics who's to say he'll be back at all?

Hasn't filan been out of football for a year? At least bozza was training last year. Could have his sharpness on the way back, and with a handful of pre-season games could be ready for season start.

 

[Deej]

IMO Bosnich would be a bad signing, he ain't played for 5 or so years and the reason for that is he got f**ked up on coke!  Previous to that he didn't have the best track record in the press anyway, sure people learn from their mistakes and I'm sure Bosnich has but I simply think he's not had enough football to prove he's worth a contract.......I would rather Filan IMHO if it's a short term contract we are after!  If Danny has a good Olympics who's to say he'll be back at all?

Hasn't filan been out of football for a year? At least bozza was training last year. Could have his sharpness on the way back, and with a handful of pre-season games could be ready for season start.

Yep he sure has, but he was only in the EPL last year (and some of his saves saved Wigan from the drop), I'm sure if he had a pre-season under his belt he could do a job for 8 games.  However given that he has no pre-season he certainly wouldn't be my number 1 choice!