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Arnie, you don't live here any more. Stay out of the pantry.
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dibo
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Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Forum Phoenix
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I think Ange is a great attacking coach but GA for mine is clearly a far more rounded and subsequently better one.
However Ange will bring attacking football, a broom, and ruination for the Tards. All welcome.
So let the media have their darling.
However Ange will bring attacking football, a broom, and ruination for the Tards. All welcome.
So let the media have their darling.
midfielder
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Just for the sake of putting it out the salary for 8 months is 1.5 million …. that is a huge increase for AP, GA or TP … but most agree not enough for a top overseas coach..
From the ABC… http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-14/postecoglou-favored-for-socceroos-job/5020820
Melbourne Victory’s Ange Postecoglou has firmed as favourite as the new Socceroos coach with Football Federation Australia reluctant to pay the asking price for top overseas contenders.
Leading candidates
Check out who the FFA are casting their eye over for the Socceroos’ top job.
It is understood the FFA is placing just $1.5 million on the table for eight months at the helm of the Socceroos with no guarantee of a contract beyond the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.
The prospect of earning just $1.5 million less tax – a trifling figure to the game’s best credentialed coaches – has spooked some of the early overseas front-runners.
The FFA is tightening its purse strings without a naming rights sponsor for the Socceroos after the expiration of its deal with Qantas.
The package has already been rejected by at least one leading applicant to replace sacked Holger Osieck, while others – including Chelsea’s European Champions League winner Roberto Di Mateo – are likely to take a step back.
Aware the Socceroos are at a low ebb and likely to struggle at the World Cup, potential successors to Osieck are also wary of having their own reputations tarnished by heavy beatings in Brazil as they weigh up what the FFA is prepared to offer.
Postecoglou – ranked ahead of fellow local contenders Graham Arnold and Tony Popovic by FFA – has a year left on his Victory contract but the club would be unlikely to stand in his way.
Australian coaches shake inferiority complex
Ahead of Australia’s friendly international against Canada at Fulham’s Craven Cottage on Wednesday morning (AEDT), Socceroos forward Dario Vidosic backed Postecoglou, saying he would be up to the national job.
“Ange has proved himself in the A-League with two championships at Brisbane Roar and he’s doing an exceptional job at Victory,” Vidosic said.
Gone are the days when our coaches had an inferiority complex on the world stage.
In my time in Germany, I saw many coaches who are well below the standards of what I have seen back in Australia.
Socceroo Dario Vidosic
“Gone are the days when our coaches had an inferiority complex on the world stage.
“In my time in Germany, I saw many coaches who are well below the standards of what I have seen back in Australia.”
Postecoglou’s prospects have been further enhanced by prime candidate Guus Hiddink’s seeming reluctance to embrace the prospect of a reunion with the nation he led to the knock-out stages of the 2006 World Cup.
“Our best players have proved themselves overseas on bigger stages and I think our coaches can follow suit. Ange certainly has all the qualities,” Vidosic said.
“But he’s not the only one of course. Our best coaches have the philosophy and knowledge needed to succeed and the only way they are going to push on to an even higher level is to be in charge at huge tournaments like the World Cup.
“I think the Australian public would love to have one of their own in charge again and Ange has a winning mentality and know-how to get the best from his teams.”
Vidosic, who is trying to crack Europe for a second time after leaving Adelaide United for Swiss side Sion, missed Saturday’s 6-0 annihilation by France as he nursed a groin injury.
He is hoping to return to the Socceroos side with caretaker coach Aurelio Vidmar calling the shots in London for the match against Canada.
“Obviously losing 6-0 to Brazil and then France is poor but we have a lot of pride in ourselves and we want to show the Australian public we can do a lot better,” he said.
“What happened with Holger is not nice but it’s just a part of football, unfortunately. He gave me a chance with the national team and I wish him well.
“We have to put that behind us now and I think we’re a better team than recent results have shown. Now we have to go out and prove that.”
From the ABC… http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-14/postecoglou-favored-for-socceroos-job/5020820
Melbourne Victory’s Ange Postecoglou has firmed as favourite as the new Socceroos coach with Football Federation Australia reluctant to pay the asking price for top overseas contenders.
Leading candidates
Check out who the FFA are casting their eye over for the Socceroos’ top job.
It is understood the FFA is placing just $1.5 million on the table for eight months at the helm of the Socceroos with no guarantee of a contract beyond the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.
The prospect of earning just $1.5 million less tax – a trifling figure to the game’s best credentialed coaches – has spooked some of the early overseas front-runners.
The FFA is tightening its purse strings without a naming rights sponsor for the Socceroos after the expiration of its deal with Qantas.
The package has already been rejected by at least one leading applicant to replace sacked Holger Osieck, while others – including Chelsea’s European Champions League winner Roberto Di Mateo – are likely to take a step back.
Aware the Socceroos are at a low ebb and likely to struggle at the World Cup, potential successors to Osieck are also wary of having their own reputations tarnished by heavy beatings in Brazil as they weigh up what the FFA is prepared to offer.
Postecoglou – ranked ahead of fellow local contenders Graham Arnold and Tony Popovic by FFA – has a year left on his Victory contract but the club would be unlikely to stand in his way.
Australian coaches shake inferiority complex
Ahead of Australia’s friendly international against Canada at Fulham’s Craven Cottage on Wednesday morning (AEDT), Socceroos forward Dario Vidosic backed Postecoglou, saying he would be up to the national job.
“Ange has proved himself in the A-League with two championships at Brisbane Roar and he’s doing an exceptional job at Victory,” Vidosic said.
Gone are the days when our coaches had an inferiority complex on the world stage.
In my time in Germany, I saw many coaches who are well below the standards of what I have seen back in Australia.
Socceroo Dario Vidosic
“Gone are the days when our coaches had an inferiority complex on the world stage.
“In my time in Germany, I saw many coaches who are well below the standards of what I have seen back in Australia.”
Postecoglou’s prospects have been further enhanced by prime candidate Guus Hiddink’s seeming reluctance to embrace the prospect of a reunion with the nation he led to the knock-out stages of the 2006 World Cup.
“Our best players have proved themselves overseas on bigger stages and I think our coaches can follow suit. Ange certainly has all the qualities,” Vidosic said.
“But he’s not the only one of course. Our best coaches have the philosophy and knowledge needed to succeed and the only way they are going to push on to an even higher level is to be in charge at huge tournaments like the World Cup.
“I think the Australian public would love to have one of their own in charge again and Ange has a winning mentality and know-how to get the best from his teams.”
Vidosic, who is trying to crack Europe for a second time after leaving Adelaide United for Swiss side Sion, missed Saturday’s 6-0 annihilation by France as he nursed a groin injury.
He is hoping to return to the Socceroos side with caretaker coach Aurelio Vidmar calling the shots in London for the match against Canada.
“Obviously losing 6-0 to Brazil and then France is poor but we have a lot of pride in ourselves and we want to show the Australian public we can do a lot better,” he said.
“What happened with Holger is not nice but it’s just a part of football, unfortunately. He gave me a chance with the national team and I wish him well.
“We have to put that behind us now and I think we’re a better team than recent results have shown. Now we have to go out and prove that.”
true believer
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I think in the short term it must be one of the 2 A .they know who's out there (conner chapman, brillante , sainbury)
it's a 5 year job with the prime task .win the Asian championship in Australia.
it's a 5 year job with the prime task .win the Asian championship in Australia.
dibo
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Seems that is not/no longer the case: http://www.footballaustralia.com.au...t-from-david-gallop-regarding-socceroos/77358
Statement from David Gallop regarding Socceroos
Friday, 18 October 2013 3:00 PM
Football Federation Australia Chief Executive Officer David Gallop returned from Europe overnight and has made this statement:
“Since my return from Europe I’ve met with the Chairman and we have re-affirmed our commitment to FFA’s long term strategy that the next Socceroos coach would ideally be an Australian,” said Football Federation Australia Chief Executive Officer David Gallop.
“It should not come as a surprise that we have been considering possible scenarios and options since the World Cup qualification period earlier this year. That is appropriate contingency planning. We would like to appoint the coach before the next FIFA window in November to give him the opportunity to work with the players ahead of the World Cup, the Asian Cup and beyond. As I have already said, the regeneration of the team is critical but producing a competitive outfit is not something that should only be a long term goal. We want the Socceroos to strive for world class standards and to always punch above our weight on the global stage.
FFA has also started a review of the Socceroos and the new coach will quite rightly have input into that review as it covers the existing structures in the National Team Unit, its integration into the FFA’s overall strategy, scouting systems, sports science, training camp and game planning and all other issues relating to the flagship team in our sport. Our new Head of National Performance, Luke Casserly will lead that review.
“We have made contact with the Hyundai A-League clubs of the three candidates mentioned and while the speculation is understandable it would not be appropriate to make further comment at this stage.”
dibo
Well-Known Member
Compensation would have to be paid in any case because there's a contract in place with all three coaches - but CCM's decision wouldn't be based on that.
CCM aren't going to push Arnie out the door if he doesn't want to go. Equally, they're not going to hold him back if it's offered to him and he wants it.
So the decision will be entirely about whether
- Arnie wants it, and
- if FFA wants Arnie.
Roy Law
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Ange would take it, Arnie would too, not sure about Poppa. Victory are more likely to stand in the way than the Mariners who have always said they would respect Arnie's wishes. But this is Australia and the FFA may find it cheaper to cancel the contract of the man they employ - Popovic.
I think the choice should be Ange as Arnie has already had the gig before and Poppa probably needs a bit more experience.
Whoever it is we will be in good hands.
I think the choice should be Ange as Arnie has already had the gig before and Poppa probably needs a bit more experience.
Whoever it is we will be in good hands.
Mini In Bay 6
Well-Known Member
Poppa came out and said he'd be up for it. Three way dance.
But I suspect Ange is favourite. Arnie sadly probably still has the baggage of ArnoldOut, and Poppa iis still green behind the ears. But funnier things have happened..
But I suspect Ange is favourite. Arnie sadly probably still has the baggage of ArnoldOut, and Poppa iis still green behind the ears. But funnier things have happened..
eenfish
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Selecting Popovic is absolute madness. It could very well work, but so could hiring me as coach of the Socceroos. Arnie and Ange make sense, Popovic has literally one season under his belt and people think he should be in charge of the Socceroos going forward? No thank you.
dibo
Well-Known Member
RUMOUR ALERT - ARNIE OFF TO ASIA
FOOTBALL
Graham Arnold to quit Central Coast Mariners to take up coaching job in Asia
- TOM SMITHIES
- THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
- NOVEMBER 13, 2013 3:10PM
Graham Arnold has sensationally quit Central Coast Mariners for an Asian club. Source: News Limited
Though the deal has not yet been signed, it's believed Arnold told his players on Wednesday that he is about to leave the country to negotiate terms, with the club's blessing.
Having been passed over for the Socceroos job for Ange Postecoglou, Arnold has turned his attentions to the overseas role he has long coveted.
The new contract he signed in May last year, to remain at the Mariners for another two seasons, contained a clause allowing him to accept a substantial job overseas.
It's understood that club officials have immediately given him the green light to hold talks with the unnamed club, a mark of the respect he is held in after delivering the club its first championship last season.
Graham Arnold is set to bid farewell to the Mariners. Source: News Limited
Arnold could not be contacted for contact, but those close to him have been aware for some time of his desire to test himself at a higher level, having taken the Mariners to the knock-out rounds of last season's Asian Champions League.
Since he took over the Central Coast side in 2010 they have featured in two grand finals and won the minor premiership on top of last season's silverware, though he was forced to accept a break-up of the title-winning side with a number of players heading overseas and to other A-League clubs.
Assuming Arnold signs his deal, attention will turn to a succession plan at the Mariners where assistant coach Phil Moss has been an integral part of the club's recent success.
However Sydney United coach Mark Rudan is also likely to feature in dispatches after his success in winning the national state league competition this season.
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