ALM Round 4 - Mariners v Roar 5pm Sunday 12th

[marinermick]

Won't be popular but I didn't think it was a pen. He was clearly looking for it and the ball was so far away from him if he hadn't deliberately fallen over he wouldn't have got to the ball anyway.

Could do with watching a replay though, only saw it live.

Not an unpopular opinion. Most people I spoke to thought it was no penalty. Clear dive and he was lucky not to get his second yellow from it.

 

[gemkayem]

Kuol was not a significant amount.

I think wheras Monty had this magical ability to make something out of very little, our owner wants to make something out of nothing, with nothing. Wonder if he’s realised yet it won’t happen.. especially without the magician.

Significant compared to the others I mean, who were mostly free agents? We had to pay a fee for Kuol I thought?

 

[Meerkat]

Significant compared to the others I mean, who were mostly free agents? We had to pay a fee for Kuol I thought?

Yes, correct. ?

The rest were freebies.

 

[midfielder]

And the scary thing is we haven’t played the good teams yet

very true

 

[scottmac]

Not an unpopular opinion. Most people I spoke to thought it was no penalty. Clear dive and he was lucky not to get his second yellow from it.

First yellow. His "second" was a few minutes after the dive.

 

[crock]

We now have 2 weeks before the next game. No travel, no mid week games to distract us.

This will be a key period to be able to work on some structures.

If there isn’t a marked improvement for the jets, Terengganu and victory games then it could be time up for MJ.

I doubt we will sack Jackson before New year or even this season

 

[midfielder]

My biggest concern occurred roughly 15 minutes into the second half.

The lack of off the ball running in attack and instinctive tracking back in defence to close down space ..... we looked a side with players trying to win the game so many shots from outside the box well off target.... Theo mate look up and pass the ball.....

As I looked at the crowd the concern I had was RP wants an 8k average.... as a key metric to buy the club...

For the rest of the game I studied the team, only Danny, Faz, Nizzy, Max, Tulio, maybe Kaltak are lets say quality, then Strom, Koul [getting better] the rest don't IMO look A-L level.

Is this team and this coach capable of drawing an 8k average...

 

[pjennings]

We've won worse records than that but they were all Wilson's fault..........

Australia Cup Paull. First AF

Can someone explain the rules on Steele red card

The contract is no doubt high and red on it’s own but how does the foul by Bergour who clips Steele left leg twice not effect Steele balance and there challenge.

Should that not negated Steele high foot

And pulled his shoulder.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Cue the unwarranted pissing and moaning on here, and worse on other socials.

We played well, against a quality team, and after the week we've had. Exhausted and some poor luck. Could easily have won.

On that display we'll start winning games soon

But, emotions are about to dominate, pessimism will fly, and the whining is about to get out of control. Please temper it. We were actually pretty decent.

I’ll just repost this and save time posting. Cheers IB.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

I gave it to this really hot Russian girl. Needs help with her visa

Вы заинтересованы в покупке нашего клуба?

 

[Forum Phoenix]

This is the biggest issue you have highlighted - the speed of attack. Last season we would break so quickly and just roll off each other in attack. Now it is much slower.

The transition moments of play are killing us; BPO to BP is too slow and we don’t defend well enough in BP to BPO.

BP is passable and this is why people think we look good. However without a fast and effective BPO to BP we are making it easy for a team to set up an effective defence.

Conversely we are fine in BPO but getting caught out in BP to BPO.

Transition is the hardest to coach and the hardest to have a plan and structure. Monty excelled best in the transition phases for his team. Jackson is so struggling in these areas.

We have fast and mobile players that should excel in the transition moments but it appears the structure and tactics we have are holding them back.

Anyone who thinks we are looking good are way off the mark and clouded by our BP moments.

Fact is, is that we have had zero improvement against some of the weakest teams in the comp from round one to round four, and this is a major concern.

Jackson crying foul from game play and referee for all four games now is also not warranted. You get unlucky one game, maybe two and rarely three, but four losses is a pattern of failure. Last week it was the player’s fault, this week the ref. Next week he will blame FFC Mariner for having multiple forum handles.

A bad tradesman always blames his tools.

Kuol could have had 3 and this conversation never happens. Do agree we can be quicker but we’re still getting plenty of penetrations and opportunities in our opponents final third.

Out three main issues today were fatigue, finishing and depth. Of which we have none.

 

[shipwreck]

Can we start talking about the other coaches that applied now?

I agree with Mick, you can't blame external factors 4 times in a row.

 

[Corsair]

Smith is lacking confidence, we saw what he could do last time he was here.

He doesn't look fit to me, gassed after 45.

 

[shipwreck]

I'd also like to know who had the final say on MJ.

Haven't heard dick from dick

 

[Tevor]

I'd also like to know who had the final say on MJ.

Haven't heard dick from dick

Dick is MIA, didn’t go to Bali when everyone else important did. Suspect he doesn’t want to fund the club anymore. Time will tell but there are subtle signs in my opinion.

 

[BrisRecky]

My observations.....

Smith and DWH are NPL level players, simply not good enough. Ship them out in Jan.

The defence is soooo shaky, apart from Faz.

Farrell was outstanding. Kaltak does some brilliant stuff but just doesn't do the simple defensive things right. Storm and Paull are not great defenders......their respective ages partly being the issue. Again we were missing Triantis massively.

Maxy had a fantastic game and outshone Niz today.

I didn't understand the logic of bringing on Steele in the first place.

Kuol is starting to look the business and is our only sharp object up front.

Theo's run was outstanding and was clearly a penalty. Go 2.1 up and its a different game.

Wilson did a bit better and played two lovely cross-field passes. Missed an easy header that even i would have buried (at 10yo).

3pts Max
2pts Faz
1pt Kaltak

That ref was frigging woeful.

Yep, What Wombat said

 

[Stuartmcateer]

I doubt we will sack Jackson before New year or even this season

If we don’t beat Terengganu, and we are still winless in the league then something will have to happen.

I’m all for giving him time under the circumstances he arrived. And he has had cup games/ travel that have impacted the time on the training pitch to get his ideas across.

But he has now had a month so the next 2 weeks of free time will make or break him.

I’m not expecting us to put on that GF performance every week or win every game but a bit of a move to an actual identity and style of play would be nice.

It’s not enough to say we have had a few more good moments or that we are towelling up sides in the cup that would struggle in the local comp.

 

[Allreet?]

Won't be popular but I didn't think it was a pen. He was clearly looking for it and the ball was so far away from him if he hadn't deliberately fallen over he wouldn't have got to the ball anyway.

Could do with watching a replay though, only saw it live.

Despite being in Bay 17 I thought it was a penalty - horrified when it was overturned.

Was also horrified when Kuol was taken off - he was the only one looking dangerous and the Weasel Hole did nothing. I honestly thought there was a player there before he joined us.

Nizz's passing in the final third was way below his usual standard and why FFS won't he take a shot?

Overall, looked a lot more urgent than previous. Did not deserve to lose that.

 

[crock]

If we don’t beat Terengganu, and we are still winless in the league then something will have to happen.

I’m all for giving him time under the circumstances he arrived. And he has had cup games/ travel that have impacted the time on the training pitch to get his ideas across.

But he has now had a month so the next 2 weeks of free time will make or break him.

I’m not expecting us to put on that GF performance every week or win every game but a bit of a move to an actual identity and style of play would be nice.

It’s not enough to say we have had a few more good moments or that we are towelling up sides in the cup that would struggle in the local comp.

That's proably fair enough but tbh it would be difficult to find a decent replacement if we did sack him

 

[Stuartmcateer]

That's proably fair enough but tbh it would be difficult to find a decent replacement if we did sack him

I think that’s why we are in this position. We settled for decent instead of pushing for a quality replacement ??‍♂️