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Adelaide v Mariners
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MagpieMariner
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tyson said:
Through the wall was against Fury, but most walls won't explode like that one did. However, if he puts it up a bit & goes over the bar, we'll rip his nuts off
The close miss was against 'Nix, but it wasn't really a miss, it deflected wide off Ifill. He's not there, it's a goal. He had another one like that too in another match, a lucky deflection. Can't remember which match that was.
Another thing to consider, the ball rebounds off the wall & could go anywhere, possibly to someone unmarked because of all the bodies in the wall, and suddenly the 'keeper's out of position and in it goes.
Of course it could also rebound straight back to their striker all alone on the half and he's off for a one-on-one with Danny. You just never know.
bikinigirl
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Wombat said:
. not saying you are wrong but not the most convincing argument ... we have played the only two teams that were below us on the table and still conceded in each game
. plus throughout the record run people were suggesting heff's mind was elsewhere on occasion and that boogs should (and i'll quote) 'f**k off and f**k off now'
. does anybody else have an opinion on doig's contribution? roy law has suggested he was not doing a very good job on owusu. not suggesting he is rubbish, but has he really made _that_ much difference?
bikinigirl
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spike said:tyson said:
Through the wall was against Fury, but most walls won't explode like that one did. However, if he puts it up a bit & goes over the bar, we'll rip his nuts off
The close miss was against 'Nix, but it wasn't really a miss, it deflected wide off Ifill. He's not there, it's a goal. He had another one like that too in another match, a lucky deflection. Can't remember which match that was.
Another thing to consider, the ball rebounds off the wall & could go anywhere, possibly to someone unmarked because of all the bodies in the wall, and suddenly the 'keeper's out of position and in it goes.
Of course it could also rebound straight back to their striker all alone on the half and he's off for a one-on-one with Danny. You just never know.
. meh, i'll go with predictable
. if there is a deflection and it misses, the wall has done its job - hypotheticals of 'if so-and-so wasn't there it would have been a goal' are a bit naff
. doesn't mean we shouldn't use him sometimes, if even just to maim occasionally
Roy Law
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Doig is far from rubbish; my point about Owusu is that I would have thought a muscular limited-talent striker would have been meat and drink to him. As it was in the second half we were much better which I partly put down to Doig coming to grips with Owusu. But the other influence of Doig is that we have a defender at right back instead of a midfielder; we have a back four who can actually defend.
For another insight - the guy I go to the games with, who hasn't really watched the Mariners til this season said, against NQF " who's the guy with his head down at the back?"
-"Wilkinson"
"isn't he the captain?"
"Yes"
"Why is he so quiet? Who's the other guy making all the noise?"
"Chris Doig"
Probably sums up the Doig influence.
For another insight - the guy I go to the games with, who hasn't really watched the Mariners til this season said, against NQF " who's the guy with his head down at the back?"
-"Wilkinson"
"isn't he the captain?"
"Yes"
"Why is he so quiet? Who's the other guy making all the noise?"
"Chris Doig"
Probably sums up the Doig influence.
bikinigirl
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. fair enough roy and i don't disagree
. just thought it was odd nobody had really commented. when he wasn't playing is was all some people seemed to talk about
. we're still conceding soft goals though
. just thought it was odd nobody had really commented. when he wasn't playing is was all some people seemed to talk about
. we're still conceding soft goals though
offtheball
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spike said:tyson said:
Through the wall was against Fury, but most walls won't explode like that one did. However, if he puts it up a bit & goes over the bar, we'll rip his nuts off
The close miss was against 'Nix, but it wasn't really a miss, it deflected wide off Ifill. He's not there, it's a goal. He had another one like that too in another match, a lucky deflection. Can't remember which match that was.
Another thing to consider, the ball rebounds off the wall & could go anywhere, possibly to someone unmarked because of all the bodies in the wall, and suddenly the 'keeper's out of position and in it goes.
Of course it could also rebound straight back to their striker all alone on the half and he's off for a one-on-one with Danny. You just never know.
Might help if the referee takes some control of the wall. 10 yards instead of five and don't let them move until the ball is struck. Even after Beath issued the yellow cards the wall was not back 10 and moved early.
Forum Phoenix
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Had a chat today with a source inside the camp
Travis was definitely sick.
No conspiracy going on, so we can drop the "intervention" talks.
Presuming tarining and all goes well, hopefully we'll see Travis back against GCU this week.
Travis was definitely sick.
No conspiracy going on, so we can drop the "intervention" talks.
Presuming tarining and all goes well, hopefully we'll see Travis back against GCU this week.
MagpieMariner
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bikinigirl said:spike said:tyson said:
Through the wall was against Fury, but most walls won't explode like that one did. However, if he puts it up a bit & goes over the bar, we'll rip his nuts off
The close miss was against 'Nix, but it wasn't really a miss, it deflected wide off Ifill. He's not there, it's a goal. He had another one like that too in another match, a lucky deflection. Can't remember which match that was.
Another thing to consider, the ball rebounds off the wall & could go anywhere, possibly to someone unmarked because of all the bodies in the wall, and suddenly the 'keeper's out of position and in it goes.
Of course it could also rebound straight back to their striker all alone on the half and he's off for a one-on-one with Danny. You just never know.
. meh, i'll go with predictable
. if there is a deflection and it misses, the wall has done its job - hypotheticals of 'if so-and-so wasn't there it would have been a goal' are a bit naff
. doesn't mean we shouldn't use him sometimes, if even just to maim occasionally
Ifill wasn't in the wall, he was behind it. The shot had gone around the wall.
MagpieMariner
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Talking about Nik and his free kicks, who else has been getting them anywhere close lately?
scottmac
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Forum Phoenix said:Had a chat today with a source inside the camp
Travis was definitely sick.
No conspiracy going on, so we can drop the "intervention" talks.
Presuming tarining and all goes well, hopefully we'll see Travis back against GCU this week.
Thats what they wanted you to hear
let the conspiracy theorists run free!Good news if true cause we have been missing someone with a bit of skill to help Nik out when he holds the ball up. Someone to run into holes and provide passing opportunities.
bikinigirl
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spike said:bikinigirl said:spike said:tyson said:
Through the wall was against Fury, but most walls won't explode like that one did. However, if he puts it up a bit & goes over the bar, we'll rip his nuts off
The close miss was against 'Nix, but it wasn't really a miss, it deflected wide off Ifill. He's not there, it's a goal. He had another one like that too in another match, a lucky deflection. Can't remember which match that was.
Another thing to consider, the ball rebounds off the wall & could go anywhere, possibly to someone unmarked because of all the bodies in the wall, and suddenly the 'keeper's out of position and in it goes.
Of course it could also rebound straight back to their striker all alone on the half and he's off for a one-on-one with Danny. You just never know.
. meh, i'll go with predictable
. if there is a deflection and it misses, the wall has done its job - hypotheticals of 'if so-and-so wasn't there it would have been a goal' are a bit naff
. doesn't mean we shouldn't use him sometimes, if even just to maim occasionally
Ifill wasn't in the wall, he was behind it. The shot had gone around the wall.
. sorry but i don't think that helps your argument ... its not going in if it hits someone who is in the way
spike said:
. this is a different thing altogether ... pedj was meant to be the answer (based on pre-season) but with his touch lately they haven't let him anywhere near it
. some have suggested porter is the man ... might be worth a try. that pommie bloke with the mystery illness ... would he be any good?
MagpieMariner
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". sorry but i don't think that helps your argument ... its not going in if it hits someone who is in the way"
I agree with what you say. The point I was awkwardly trying to put forward was that it wasn't predictably blasted into the wall, but was curved around the wall. If the kicker, whoever he may be, can do that & the ball is heading in before it's deflected, then I can live with that predictability.
Having said that, the frees taken last night were the other kind of predictable.
As for someone else to take them, Hutch or Kwassie perhaps? Or perhaps not.
I agree with what you say. The point I was awkwardly trying to put forward was that it wasn't predictably blasted into the wall, but was curved around the wall. If the kicker, whoever he may be, can do that & the ball is heading in before it's deflected, then I can live with that predictability.
Having said that, the frees taken last night were the other kind of predictable.
As for someone else to take them, Hutch or Kwassie perhaps? Or perhaps not.
FFC Mariner
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Forum Phoenix said:Had a chat today with a source inside the camp
Travis was definitely sick.
No conspiracy going on, so we can drop the "intervention" talks.
Presuming tarining and all goes well, hopefully we'll see Travis back against GCU this week.
You wont
FFC Mariner
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Deej said:
Porter takes a wicked free kick - like to see them give him a go
MagpieMariner
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Deej said:
He was doing OK in the pre-season, but the couple I've seen him take since, he's had a problem with the gun-sights -- needs some serious re-calibration.
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