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A-League Expansion
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FFC Mariner
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RU is farked until they can get a decent club comp off the ground. Their last effort was a disaster and an expanded Super 14 cant work if the bottom of the pyramid is too narrow.
bulldogmariner
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Fury might have something to do with the wild storms and cyclones that north queensland face over a six month period?
David Votoupal
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Greenpoleffc said:
Union's big problems in this country are:
1) player development. They've spent years trying to recruit League converts at the expense of their own player development.
2) the growing professionalism of the sport threatens to shift the power to the clubs in the Northern Hemisphere who can pay players decent money these days. Same thing is happening in League with the English Super League.
3) Union, like cricket, is a sport whose popularity depends entirely on national team fortunes.
David Votoupal
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Exactly the point, relating also to point 1.
The five-year limitation for Sydney and Melbourne expires in 2010, which is why the FFA are most likely to plant 2nd teams there- something that should've happened, at least in Sydney, from the start.
The five-year limitation for Sydney and Melbourne expires in 2010, which is why the FFA are most likely to plant 2nd teams there- something that should've happened, at least in Sydney, from the start.
midfielder
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http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/a-league/a-league-finale-for-cahill-153597/
Top Cat in the gong bid
A-League finale for Cahill
25 November 2008 | 09:37 - SBS EXCLUSIVE
Tim Cahill... linked to South Coast A-League consortium
Timc Cahill has revealed his plan to finish his career in Australia with Wollongong-based A-League aspirants South Coast FC.
The Socceroos midfielder, who has already shown his commitment to the fledgling franchise by pledging his own cash to help set up coaching clinics bearing his name in the region, isn't content to simply put his money where his mouth is.
He also wants to get his head and feet in on the act in a project that is close to his heart.
With plans for a state of the art Tim Cahill Academy also well advanced, the free-scoring ace is determined to leave his imprint on the Australian game in more ways than one.
''For me it's all about the kids and producing a pathway for them to live their dreams in a competition that is improving all the time,'' explained the Everton star, whose contract at Goodison Park runs until 2012.
Cahill, who turns 29 on December 6, added: ''Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to round off my football life playing for a team that I'm convinced will get a licence to join the competition sooner rather than later.
''The fact I can be part of the club's player development in terms of giving kids in the region a chance to excel would only make it sweeter. I'm in this project for the long haul.
''I want to be part of the club in meaningful way on the field too. I want to come home when I still have something left to give as a player. That's also very important to me.
''Obviously I couldn't be happier where I am right now at Everton, but it would great to be a part of helping build the game up back home too because football has given me a great life.''
Cahill hopes to create a football factory firstly in the 'Gong, which will drip feed talent through to a club vying with the Lucas Neill-backed Western Sydney bid and a Canberra consortium for the 12th spot in an expanded competition in 2010.
''I've been in England since I was 16 and I've been lucky enough to achieve a lot,'' he added.
''It would be great to help play a role in giving others the same chance to fulfill their potential. There's no better place to start than the South Coast, which has such a rich heritage in football.''
The first Cahill-backed clinic is set to roll next Easter with the star pumping his own money into a concept that he plans to take nationwide as well as internationally in the UK, Dubai, China, Japan and the Pacific Islands.
Cahill's template for talent identification is far removed from the disparate and unregulated schemes, which abound nationwide with parents often asked to stump up sizeable sums by cash-hungry operators.
''For me, it's not about making money from kids it's about giving value and making them the best players they can be,'' he explained.
''I want them to just enjoy themselves, get high quality coaching at a very fair rate and see where it takes them.''
Sydney-raised Cahill is a close friend of South Coast FC's deputy chairman Bill Drossos, who played NSW state league football with Tim and brother Sean.
Younger brother Chris, who also had a brief stint trialling with several clubs in England, is closely working with Drossos and South Coast FC to establish the clinics and academy.
''It's really just about Tim giving something back to the community. I am also really pleased about our PCYC partnership, which will allow us to deliver low cost youth football programmes firstly on the South Coast and then across the country,'' said Drossos, who accompanied Cahill on a recent fact finding mission to the Illawarra.
The club's football director, former Wollongong Wolves coach Nick Theodporakopoulos, is also closely linked with the Cahill clan - and coached all three brothers as youngsters.
''With the clinics and the academy it's been something that has been on my mind for a long time,'' Cahill added.
''It hasn't just arrived overnight and it's something I'm proud to be backing.
''I want to see some of the kids who go through (in excess of 300 are predicted for the first clinic) one day play for South Coast FC in the A-League and beyond.
"I plan to bring in some great internationally experienced coaches as well as coaches who have been involved with the Socceroos so they get the best possible chance to succeed.''
''The interest has been phenomenal from parents and kids and Tim has been absolutely fantastic. What Tim is trying to do for the nation's kids should be applauded by all of us," Drossos added.
''This is not just about football. Tim is trying to provide an avenue for kids to firstly become better people then to provide an affordable and accessible pathway to live their dream. Tim is very serious about the project and he's in touch on a daily basis.
''Having Tim back as a player is just the icing on the cake."
Drossos is pleased with the bid's progress and believes the franchise is in a solid position to be accepted into the A-League, when it is expanded to 12 teams.
"We're confident we tick all the boxes to be in the A-League. Our website has already had over one million hits, we have in excess of 2500 pledged members, and we haven't extrapolated the numbers for family members, so in reality it could be two-three times that. We also already have over 60 pledged corporate members on board.''
Top Cat in the gong bid
A-League finale for Cahill
25 November 2008 | 09:37 - SBS EXCLUSIVE
Tim Cahill... linked to South Coast A-League consortium
Timc Cahill has revealed his plan to finish his career in Australia with Wollongong-based A-League aspirants South Coast FC.
The Socceroos midfielder, who has already shown his commitment to the fledgling franchise by pledging his own cash to help set up coaching clinics bearing his name in the region, isn't content to simply put his money where his mouth is.
He also wants to get his head and feet in on the act in a project that is close to his heart.
With plans for a state of the art Tim Cahill Academy also well advanced, the free-scoring ace is determined to leave his imprint on the Australian game in more ways than one.
''For me it's all about the kids and producing a pathway for them to live their dreams in a competition that is improving all the time,'' explained the Everton star, whose contract at Goodison Park runs until 2012.
Cahill, who turns 29 on December 6, added: ''Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to round off my football life playing for a team that I'm convinced will get a licence to join the competition sooner rather than later.
''The fact I can be part of the club's player development in terms of giving kids in the region a chance to excel would only make it sweeter. I'm in this project for the long haul.
''I want to be part of the club in meaningful way on the field too. I want to come home when I still have something left to give as a player. That's also very important to me.
''Obviously I couldn't be happier where I am right now at Everton, but it would great to be a part of helping build the game up back home too because football has given me a great life.''
Cahill hopes to create a football factory firstly in the 'Gong, which will drip feed talent through to a club vying with the Lucas Neill-backed Western Sydney bid and a Canberra consortium for the 12th spot in an expanded competition in 2010.
''I've been in England since I was 16 and I've been lucky enough to achieve a lot,'' he added.
''It would be great to help play a role in giving others the same chance to fulfill their potential. There's no better place to start than the South Coast, which has such a rich heritage in football.''
The first Cahill-backed clinic is set to roll next Easter with the star pumping his own money into a concept that he plans to take nationwide as well as internationally in the UK, Dubai, China, Japan and the Pacific Islands.
Cahill's template for talent identification is far removed from the disparate and unregulated schemes, which abound nationwide with parents often asked to stump up sizeable sums by cash-hungry operators.
''For me, it's not about making money from kids it's about giving value and making them the best players they can be,'' he explained.
''I want them to just enjoy themselves, get high quality coaching at a very fair rate and see where it takes them.''
Sydney-raised Cahill is a close friend of South Coast FC's deputy chairman Bill Drossos, who played NSW state league football with Tim and brother Sean.
Younger brother Chris, who also had a brief stint trialling with several clubs in England, is closely working with Drossos and South Coast FC to establish the clinics and academy.
''It's really just about Tim giving something back to the community. I am also really pleased about our PCYC partnership, which will allow us to deliver low cost youth football programmes firstly on the South Coast and then across the country,'' said Drossos, who accompanied Cahill on a recent fact finding mission to the Illawarra.
The club's football director, former Wollongong Wolves coach Nick Theodporakopoulos, is also closely linked with the Cahill clan - and coached all three brothers as youngsters.
''With the clinics and the academy it's been something that has been on my mind for a long time,'' Cahill added.
''It hasn't just arrived overnight and it's something I'm proud to be backing.
''I want to see some of the kids who go through (in excess of 300 are predicted for the first clinic) one day play for South Coast FC in the A-League and beyond.
"I plan to bring in some great internationally experienced coaches as well as coaches who have been involved with the Socceroos so they get the best possible chance to succeed.''
''The interest has been phenomenal from parents and kids and Tim has been absolutely fantastic. What Tim is trying to do for the nation's kids should be applauded by all of us," Drossos added.
''This is not just about football. Tim is trying to provide an avenue for kids to firstly become better people then to provide an affordable and accessible pathway to live their dream. Tim is very serious about the project and he's in touch on a daily basis.
''Having Tim back as a player is just the icing on the cake."
Drossos is pleased with the bid's progress and believes the franchise is in a solid position to be accepted into the A-League, when it is expanded to 12 teams.
"We're confident we tick all the boxes to be in the A-League. Our website has already had over one million hits, we have in excess of 2500 pledged members, and we haven't extrapolated the numbers for family members, so in reality it could be two-three times that. We also already have over 60 pledged corporate members on board.''
midfielder
Well-Known Member
Another colourful Sydney wants to get into the A-League ..even played cards with Frank Lowy...
http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/foo...491548313.html
Love Boat's owner at the helm as western suburbs plot course for A-League
Michael Cockerill
November 26, 2008
THE man who owned the infamous "Love Boat" that scandalised NSW politics in the 1980s wants to create a new A-League team in Sydney.
Joe Meissner, who is in his mid-60s, insisted yesterday his colourful past was well behind him and he was ready to focus on bringing a second Sydney team to the western suburbs.
"I'm semi-retired now, so I've got the time and energy to devote to this," he said.
Meissner, once convicted of assault and also the theft of machine-guns, became an infamous figure during the early 1980s through his connections to the NSW Labor Party as secretary of the Enmore branch. A former world karate champion and professional poker player, Meissner's notoriety reached its height when it was alleged senior Labor Party figures had consorted with organised crime figures and a prostitute aboard his boat, the Kanzen. The "Love Boat" scandal was born.
Since then Meissner, who lives in Windsor, has slipped from public view as he has built up his business interests - partly through property development - and in the past year he has begun to invest in his first love, football.
Meissner represented Victoria at youth level before he was told he had to give up football if he wanted to pursue his career in karate, but he later returned to the sport when he moved to Sydney - not as a player but a psychologist for the all-conquering St George team of the early 1970s, which included Socceroos greats Johnny Warren, Jim Fraser and Manfred Schaefer.
Meissner's passion for football has been rekindled through his teenage son, and he wants to take his involvement a step further. In the past few months he has taken over insolvent NSW Premier League side Penrith-Nepean United, and is close to finalising a buyout of Gabbie Stadium at Seven Hills - two building blocks for his hopes of creating a western Sydney team playing out of CUA Stadium.
"The west is crying out for a professional team," he said. "I'm surprised no one has made it happen by now. There are so many kids playing out here, there is so much passion for the game out here. Someone has to do something about it. A few people have approached me, so I'm looking into it.
"I don't want to fund it on my own because I'm not going to risk my life savings. But I'm prepared to invest substantially, and I want people of substance involved with me.
"I'm getting the best possible advice, and I'm going into this with my eyes wide open. Right now, I'm treading cautiously, but I know there's only a couple of months to get this up, so there's plenty of work going on. I'll only do it if I'm certain - I don't want an ordinary bid, I want a real one."
The A-League's expansion phase begins next season with the introduction of North Queensland Fury and Gold Coast United, and Football Federation Australia wants to move quickly by adding another two teams in 2010. A second Melbourne team has all but been confirmed, with Canberra, South Coast FC and a second Sydney team competing to become the 12th team.
Despite Canberra and South Coast making the early running, FFA management is known to be leaning towards western Sydney, providing a coherent bid materialises.
Socceroos skipper Lucas Neill has put his face to a bid in recent weeks, but it's believed that has yet to generate enough financial backing. Meissner said he would consider joining forces with the Neill consortium on one proviso: "I'd want control."
Asked whether his colourful past might count against him at FFA HQ, Meissner replied: "Put it this way, I've played Frank Lowy at cards, so he knows who I am. Whatever controversy there may or may not be about me, that was 25 years ago. I'm not a murderer, I'm not a rapist, I'm not a sex offender. All that stuff is irrelevant.
"If you're someone who's willing to bring money into the game, someone who's a sports person, then it's all good. No one can question my dedication."
http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/foo...491548313.html
Love Boat's owner at the helm as western suburbs plot course for A-League
Michael Cockerill
November 26, 2008
THE man who owned the infamous "Love Boat" that scandalised NSW politics in the 1980s wants to create a new A-League team in Sydney.
Joe Meissner, who is in his mid-60s, insisted yesterday his colourful past was well behind him and he was ready to focus on bringing a second Sydney team to the western suburbs.
"I'm semi-retired now, so I've got the time and energy to devote to this," he said.
Meissner, once convicted of assault and also the theft of machine-guns, became an infamous figure during the early 1980s through his connections to the NSW Labor Party as secretary of the Enmore branch. A former world karate champion and professional poker player, Meissner's notoriety reached its height when it was alleged senior Labor Party figures had consorted with organised crime figures and a prostitute aboard his boat, the Kanzen. The "Love Boat" scandal was born.
Since then Meissner, who lives in Windsor, has slipped from public view as he has built up his business interests - partly through property development - and in the past year he has begun to invest in his first love, football.
Meissner represented Victoria at youth level before he was told he had to give up football if he wanted to pursue his career in karate, but he later returned to the sport when he moved to Sydney - not as a player but a psychologist for the all-conquering St George team of the early 1970s, which included Socceroos greats Johnny Warren, Jim Fraser and Manfred Schaefer.
Meissner's passion for football has been rekindled through his teenage son, and he wants to take his involvement a step further. In the past few months he has taken over insolvent NSW Premier League side Penrith-Nepean United, and is close to finalising a buyout of Gabbie Stadium at Seven Hills - two building blocks for his hopes of creating a western Sydney team playing out of CUA Stadium.
"The west is crying out for a professional team," he said. "I'm surprised no one has made it happen by now. There are so many kids playing out here, there is so much passion for the game out here. Someone has to do something about it. A few people have approached me, so I'm looking into it.
"I don't want to fund it on my own because I'm not going to risk my life savings. But I'm prepared to invest substantially, and I want people of substance involved with me.
"I'm getting the best possible advice, and I'm going into this with my eyes wide open. Right now, I'm treading cautiously, but I know there's only a couple of months to get this up, so there's plenty of work going on. I'll only do it if I'm certain - I don't want an ordinary bid, I want a real one."
The A-League's expansion phase begins next season with the introduction of North Queensland Fury and Gold Coast United, and Football Federation Australia wants to move quickly by adding another two teams in 2010. A second Melbourne team has all but been confirmed, with Canberra, South Coast FC and a second Sydney team competing to become the 12th team.
Despite Canberra and South Coast making the early running, FFA management is known to be leaning towards western Sydney, providing a coherent bid materialises.
Socceroos skipper Lucas Neill has put his face to a bid in recent weeks, but it's believed that has yet to generate enough financial backing. Meissner said he would consider joining forces with the Neill consortium on one proviso: "I'd want control."
Asked whether his colourful past might count against him at FFA HQ, Meissner replied: "Put it this way, I've played Frank Lowy at cards, so he knows who I am. Whatever controversy there may or may not be about me, that was 25 years ago. I'm not a murderer, I'm not a rapist, I'm not a sex offender. All that stuff is irrelevant.
"If you're someone who's willing to bring money into the game, someone who's a sports person, then it's all good. No one can question my dedication."
clarence
Well-Known Member
midfielder said:
Put it this way, he didn't mention alleged blackmailer, alleged fraud, nor the fact he was reported as convicted of assault in the past either ......
Does Football really need guys like this? His past history is not quite the best advertisement that the Western Sydney people could offer, even though he does have some Football heritage with the grand old days of St. George.
marinermick
Well-Known Member
wonder what connections he has with labrozetta?
loyalist
Well-Known Member
New A-League club North Queensland Fury has added two more players to their roster for the 2009-10 season.
Fury head coach Ian Ferguson confirmed the capture of Perth Glory centre forward James Robinson and NSW state league player Marton Vass on Thursday.
Ferguson, in particular, was excited about snaring former Melbourne Victory player Robinson.
"I'm excited about getting Robinson because he's the kind of player opposition teams hate defending," Ferguson said.
"He injects a lot of energy up front and won't give the opposition defence a moment's peace."
Vass will join the Fury from NSW State League team the Sutherland Sharks.
The pair join the Fury's playing stocks for next season which already includes Jade North, Robbie Middleby, Ufuk Talay, Brendon Santalab and Jeremy Brockie
Fury head coach Ian Ferguson confirmed the capture of Perth Glory centre forward James Robinson and NSW state league player Marton Vass on Thursday.
Ferguson, in particular, was excited about snaring former Melbourne Victory player Robinson.
"I'm excited about getting Robinson because he's the kind of player opposition teams hate defending," Ferguson said.
"He injects a lot of energy up front and won't give the opposition defence a moment's peace."
Vass will join the Fury from NSW State League team the Sutherland Sharks.
The pair join the Fury's playing stocks for next season which already includes Jade North, Robbie Middleby, Ufuk Talay, Brendon Santalab and Jeremy Brockie
David Votoupal
Well-Known Member
West Sydney v Central Coast night game would be tops 
Part_Timer
Well-Known Member
we would need that 45k stadia built to play week night games....at least
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