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A-League Expansion
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FFC Mariner
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From Wiki
2001/02-2003/04 Decline and demise
With the exodus of Australian players to overseas leagues continuing, a disastrous television deal with the Seven Network seeing next to zero coverage of the league on television, and with the consequent lack of sponsorship, the league fell into even further decline leading to its eventual demise. Sydney Olympic re-emerged as a genuine leading club for the first time in a decade, winning its second title, and Perth Glory went on to win the last two titles of the NSL, after previously having lost two grand finals. The birth of Adelaide United, as a quickly formed replacement of Adelaide City who withdrew just before the start of the final NSL season, was perhaps the sole highlight of this era, as they put in good performances, but most importantly, registered crowds which had not been seen in Adelaide since the heyday of Adelaide City and West Adelaide. With the league's demise, national competition went into recess until the A-League began in the second half of 2005, with five NSL clubs taking part, those being Perth Glory, Adelaide United, New Zealand Knights (who had played in the NSL primarily under the name Football Kingz), Newcastle United Jets and Queensland Roar who had participated in the NSL under the name Brisbane Lions.
For more............
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Soccer_League#2001.2F02-2003.2F04_Decline_and_demise
2001/02-2003/04 Decline and demise
With the exodus of Australian players to overseas leagues continuing, a disastrous television deal with the Seven Network seeing next to zero coverage of the league on television, and with the consequent lack of sponsorship, the league fell into even further decline leading to its eventual demise. Sydney Olympic re-emerged as a genuine leading club for the first time in a decade, winning its second title, and Perth Glory went on to win the last two titles of the NSL, after previously having lost two grand finals. The birth of Adelaide United, as a quickly formed replacement of Adelaide City who withdrew just before the start of the final NSL season, was perhaps the sole highlight of this era, as they put in good performances, but most importantly, registered crowds which had not been seen in Adelaide since the heyday of Adelaide City and West Adelaide. With the league's demise, national competition went into recess until the A-League began in the second half of 2005, with five NSL clubs taking part, those being Perth Glory, Adelaide United, New Zealand Knights (who had played in the NSL primarily under the name Football Kingz), Newcastle United Jets and Queensland Roar who had participated in the NSL under the name Brisbane Lions.
For more............
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Soccer_League#2001.2F02-2003.2F04_Decline_and_demise
David Votoupal
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I remember going to the last-ever NSL Grand Final in the wet.
You look at the Parramatta Power side from that final season, it looks like an A-League all-star side now
You look at the Parramatta Power side from that final season, it looks like an A-League all-star side now
clarence
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Jocwa08 said:
Jocwa, don't wanna sound smart arse, but the Federal Govt.'s Crawford Report is a good read if you want to know why the game was nearly ruined.
In the end, the Federal Govt. wasn't going to give any grants to the controlling body in Australia for Football, such was the atrocious way it was being run.
And while the A-League and the FFA are going along swimmingly at the moment, and have really kept the momentum going from 2005 and the WC in 2006, don't think those who stuffed it all up before then, are not trying to get back into the halls of power.
Particularly now, as the main stream of Australian sports spectators are starting to notice this A-League and the Football and $$ starting to come our way.
Cheer as much as you like at the moment, get all happy and proud at how Football is coming along in this country, but keep a close eye on your back and who takes over from whom in the FFA and existing A-League clubs and later franchisees. Obviously, there are a good many folks from the old days of the NSL who have made it over to the FFA and an A-League club (in our case look at Lawrie, Tobin, Lyall, Peter Turnbull - the list goes on), but there's a closet full of c**ts just waiting to grab control of a club and push their agendas onto the FFA's board table if they are given half a chance.
FFC Mariner
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Perth Glory, Brisbane Lions (Roar), the scum and Adelaide United have all got an NSL heritage.
So did NZ until they went belly up.
SFC is the old Sydney Hakoah too
So did NZ until they went belly up.
SFC is the old Sydney Hakoah too
clarence
Well-Known Member
Greenpoleffc said:
Yes,but with folks who are either reined in by franchise licencing constraints or lack of real power to take issues up with the FFA, or good folks with a genuine interest to see Football come on better in this country. Not going to be naming names about folks I distrust - for obvious reasons.
David Votoupal
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The point I'm making is that with the league now established and the game growing, and with the traditionally-dominant code Rugby League considered by many to be in decline, there will never be a better opportunity in NSW and QLD to put football on top. And as I said, clubs tend to grow strongly when clustered together. It all makes sense.
FFC Mariner
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Agreed, a W Sydney club playing out of Parra (big games at ANZ) is a no brainer really
David Votoupal
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I don't think we're ready for ANZ, pack out Parramatta first and then see where it goes.
midfielder
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From smh
http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/foo...956398861.html
THE battle to be the A-League's 12th team is poised to become a fight between Western Sydney and the NSW South Coast over which region is football's heartland.
With a second Melbourne team all but guaranteed entry into the A-League, four potential new clubs are vying for one place in Football Federation Australia's latest expansion plan for the season, following the 2010 World Cup.
At least two entities are formulating bids to represent Western Sydney, while Wollongong-based South Coast Football Club, Canberra, and Tasmania are building public profiles.
The Sun-Herald has received information that FFA this year commissioned a confidential report to assess the viability of each major region in Australia to host a new A-League team.
Western Sydney was placed first by a clear margin, followed by Melbourne, Gold Coast, Townsville, Wollongong and Canberra.
With expansion clubs Townsville and Gold Coast joining in 2009, the next stage of A-League development is expected to centre on which region can claim to be the "soul" of Australian football.
"The question is whether it is time to say Western Sydney is a priority," an A-League source close to the bid process said. "It is traditionally the heartland."
Although Sydney already has an A-League side, supporters for a new club point to a roll-call including Harry Kewell, Paul Okon, Mark Schwarzer, Mark Bosnich, Zeljko Kalac, Brett Emerton, and former Italy star Christian Vieri, as locals who reached the pinnacle of the world game.
Potential headquarters for a Western Sydney team include Homebush Bay, Parramatta, Blacktown, Penrith and Campbelltown.
FFA will not disclose details of the Western Sydney bids and entities have been instructed by the governing body to not speak publicly about their progress.
However, sources suggest one potential franchise has signed an agreement with a major stadium and a local council is prepared to significantly invest in a team.
But Eddy De Gabriele, chairman of South Coast Football Club, said his region has equal claim to being the cradle of Australian football.
"Look at our region's history," De Gabriele said. "Don't look at what we will do, look at what we have done in the past.
"Look at the type of people that we are breeding. Look at the football heritage that we have here.
"Scott Chipperfield, Luke Wilkshire, Ruben Zadkovich, Adam Federici and Mile Sterjovski are a stone's throw away from where we live and breathe.
"We are able to produce these national-quality players without a national team in this region. What would we do if we did? Wouldn't the Socceroos and Pim [Verbeek] want to tap into this nursery?"
The next step for the four hopeful franchises are negotiations with FFA over an exclusive licence that will begin next month.
Key criteria includes the "best strategic fit" and a new team that won't put undue pressure or stress on other clubs. Another factor in any expansion timetable is that each team costs FFA $1.5 million each year, highlighting the importance of financial windfalls from 2010 World Cup qualification.
"What we are doing at South Coast FC is saying to the FFA that this is our entity that will sell the product of national football," De Gabriele said.
From smh
http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/foo...956398861.html
THE battle to be the A-League's 12th team is poised to become a fight between Western Sydney and the NSW South Coast over which region is football's heartland.
With a second Melbourne team all but guaranteed entry into the A-League, four potential new clubs are vying for one place in Football Federation Australia's latest expansion plan for the season, following the 2010 World Cup.
At least two entities are formulating bids to represent Western Sydney, while Wollongong-based South Coast Football Club, Canberra, and Tasmania are building public profiles.
The Sun-Herald has received information that FFA this year commissioned a confidential report to assess the viability of each major region in Australia to host a new A-League team.
Western Sydney was placed first by a clear margin, followed by Melbourne, Gold Coast, Townsville, Wollongong and Canberra.
With expansion clubs Townsville and Gold Coast joining in 2009, the next stage of A-League development is expected to centre on which region can claim to be the "soul" of Australian football.
"The question is whether it is time to say Western Sydney is a priority," an A-League source close to the bid process said. "It is traditionally the heartland."
Although Sydney already has an A-League side, supporters for a new club point to a roll-call including Harry Kewell, Paul Okon, Mark Schwarzer, Mark Bosnich, Zeljko Kalac, Brett Emerton, and former Italy star Christian Vieri, as locals who reached the pinnacle of the world game.
Potential headquarters for a Western Sydney team include Homebush Bay, Parramatta, Blacktown, Penrith and Campbelltown.
FFA will not disclose details of the Western Sydney bids and entities have been instructed by the governing body to not speak publicly about their progress.
However, sources suggest one potential franchise has signed an agreement with a major stadium and a local council is prepared to significantly invest in a team.
But Eddy De Gabriele, chairman of South Coast Football Club, said his region has equal claim to being the cradle of Australian football.
"Look at our region's history," De Gabriele said. "Don't look at what we will do, look at what we have done in the past.
"Look at the type of people that we are breeding. Look at the football heritage that we have here.
"Scott Chipperfield, Luke Wilkshire, Ruben Zadkovich, Adam Federici and Mile Sterjovski are a stone's throw away from where we live and breathe.
"We are able to produce these national-quality players without a national team in this region. What would we do if we did? Wouldn't the Socceroos and Pim [Verbeek] want to tap into this nursery?"
The next step for the four hopeful franchises are negotiations with FFA over an exclusive licence that will begin next month.
Key criteria includes the "best strategic fit" and a new team that won't put undue pressure or stress on other clubs. Another factor in any expansion timetable is that each team costs FFA $1.5 million each year, highlighting the importance of financial windfalls from 2010 World Cup qualification.
"What we are doing at South Coast FC is saying to the FFA that this is our entity that will sell the product of national football," De Gabriele said.
David Votoupal
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At least it's been considered. Phew.
FFC Mariner
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Will be W Sydney.
Bigger catchment area, f**k up NRL and GayFL and bigger pay tv audience.
Also adds a "real" derby for SFC not the silly interstate one with Melb. Our games with them are intense but dont have that element of pure hatred and loathing that comes from games against the Scum.
Bigger catchment area, f**k up NRL and GayFL and bigger pay tv audience.
Also adds a "real" derby for SFC not the silly interstate one with Melb. Our games with them are intense but dont have that element of pure hatred and loathing that comes from games against the Scum.
David Votoupal
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No, it's just a matter of common sense, if we're to progress as a football nation and be taken seriously as such, this is the way to go about it.
I think the FFA is still waiting for a decent proposal from west sydney, with a couple of parties feeling around.
I would not be surprised if lowy through a chunk in to help set it up if required. He wants West sydney for the next round of expansion. He has said it many times. The fact is the numbers are there for crowds, and especially tv audiences.
South coast have some work to do to jump the queue ahead of them. And if they do, I doubt it will be more than 1 season, 2 season max before a west sydney team will enter the comp, with either a canberra, tassie, or other team to join them.
I think South coast have given the FFA a welcome headache
I would not be surprised if lowy through a chunk in to help set it up if required. He wants West sydney for the next round of expansion. He has said it many times. The fact is the numbers are there for crowds, and especially tv audiences.
South coast have some work to do to jump the queue ahead of them. And if they do, I doubt it will be more than 1 season, 2 season max before a west sydney team will enter the comp, with either a canberra, tassie, or other team to join them.
I think South coast have given the FFA a welcome headache
FFC Mariner
Well-Known Member
David Votoupal said:
We already are starting to be taken seriously as a football nation (slowly) just not by our own media lol
midfielder
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Keeper_Herbs said:
About six thousand its called Gabbie stadium and is the home of the Blacktown Demons ....... Ian Rush & Kevin Keegan played their as guest players.
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