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A-League Expansion

Jesus

Jesus
Greenpoleffc said:
Surely you would go after the W Sydney market over Wollongong?  Bling hate the very thought of it too which is nice.

NZ are in because they deliver a potential 3m pay tv viewers and advertisers. Personally, I dont think we should have a NZ side as we owe them nothing but I suspect the $$ will win

Exclusivity will expire after next season. So a west sydney could get up anyways.

I have noticed a distinct lack of suggestion of west sydney bid in the more recent articles i have seen. Only canberra, 2 melbournes, gong and tassie. Hopefully there is still a west sydney bid, as this is an essential area for the game to grow in crowd and tv numbers
 

Omni

Well-Known Member
Atomic said:
This afternoon, TWG will be doing a story on the Canberra bid for inclusion into the A-League. It will be interesting to see what they're upto. Personally I'd like to see other bids get up before Canberra.

Canberra will have a team in the W-League though, so that's got to be some indication that the FFA are really looking at a Canberra team, could work well I think, but it's such an odd population there.
 

marinermick

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Ted said:
Can't see the NZ team being dropped purely for financial reasons.

exactly, it is quite the opposite

they need a nz team to provide huge cash from skysports - the national pay-tv carrier there
 

Omni

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Possible Oceania XI team?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10534571
 

bulldogmariner

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It would be good for the region but impossible to put together having players from so many nations playing out of either Auckland or Fiji. Knights failed in Auckland so wouldnt go back there and Fiji do not know how safe it is for one and if commercially it is viable for the A-League. Many Oceania should start up the O-League with all countries having a representative and the winner each season makes a play-off with the team all ready in the region from Oceania and the winner plays in the next A-League season. I think this idea might work but probably not.
 

Omni

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I really think Auckland would be a terrible idea, need to play it out of Nadi or even Noumea (New Caledonia love their football I think it'd be a good move). Oceania XI could work, if they can pull it together for a one-off with work it could happen for a season, they'd be happy with the arrangement for the level of development they'd get. It really would kill off the OFC though.
 

midfielder

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Sunshine lollypops and sugar coated lemop drops everyone is happy when Football gets its first real media person heavyweight may be over the top.

Win TV has an aduience in regional Australia over 5.5 million.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/foo...651084315.html

Gordon wins FFA's affections for South Coast
Michael Cockerill
October 1, 2008

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SOUTH COAST FC have moved to the head of the queue to join the A-League, with WIN Corporation owner Bruce Gordon formally agreeing to subsidise the bid.

Gordon's decision to put his money on the table - he is believed to be worth a about $1.2 billion - is a huge breakthrough for the Wollongong-based bid, which is competing with Canberra and west Sydney for a place in the competition from 2010.

South Coast FC are selling their case on the basis that they will represent a region of more than 500,000 people extending south to the Victorian border, inland to the Southern Highlands, and embracing parts of the Macarthur district in south west Sydney.

Football Federation Australia, which last week handed exclusive negotiating rights for a second Melbourne team to businessman Peter Sidwell, is due to make a decision on further expansion by Christmas. Gold Coast United and North Queensland FC have already been confirmed as new teams for 2009.

The FFA is known to have been impressed by the South Coast's initial bid document, and the news Gordon will effectively underwrite the team for the first five years could be the clincher. It's understood FFA chairman Frank Lowy personally convinced Gordon of the merits of funding an A-League team.

Gordon, 78, was associated with the game as a part-owner of Wollongong Wolves in the NSL, and was first approached a year ago about linking with a new A-League team. It's believed Gordon's personal wealth, and not that of WIN Corporation, will be used, but WIN does have naming rights to the stadium.

Gordon's presence lengthens the odds for both Canberra and west Sydney, although the commitment from the ACT Government to help fund a team out of Bruce Stadium has also earned plenty of brownie points inside FFA. It's likely the final decision for the 12th team in 2010 will be a straight choice between Canberra and South Coast, despite a strong view within management that western Sydney would be the ideal option.

The dilemma for the governing body is that western Sydney has yet to produce a cogent bid. Talks have been held with a number of interested parties, including Socceroos skipper Lucas Neill and ANZ Stadium, but so far nothing concrete has emerged.

Sydney FC chairman Andrew Kemeny has also made public his concerns about a second Sydney team in 2010, suggesting the market is not yet strong enough to support two teams
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
The dilemma for the governing body is that western Sydney has yet to produce a cogent bid. Talks have been held with a number of interested parties, including Socceroos skipper Lucas Neill and ANZ Stadium, but so far nothing concrete has emerged.

Sydney FC chairman Andrew Kemeny has also made public his concerns about a second Sydney team in 2010, suggesting the market is not yet strong enough to support two teams.

Bollocks. The Sydney market will easily support 2 teams but on day 1, a W Syd side will pwn Sydney Hakoah and thats why the current head f**kwit is running scared.
 

kevrenor

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Canberra:

29th September 2008
15,000 to attend Canberra A-League games.
The Canberra A-League team can expect excellent support from both Canberra and the regional New South Wales community.
Its very positive news for Canberra, regional New South Wales football, and our A-League bid. Over 15,000 people are expected to attend every home game. And almost 70% of households are saying they would consider going to games, said bid leader Transact CEO Ivan Slavich.
Today Ivan Slavich released the results of Orima Market Research recently undertaken for the Canberra A-League Bid Committee.
Football is booming across Canberra, New South Wales and Australia and we are seeing the results in our research. Interestingly support is strong from both males and females. It matches the anecdotal evidence weve gathered from around the junior clubs of Canberra.
And we expect an increase in positive responses when we are accepted into the League for 2010 and build towards our first game.
And further research will include all the fans from regional New South Wales who would come to the games. The Brumbies get almost 15% of their support from outside Canberra, wed aim to match or improve on this.
Canberra United FC plays its first game in the new Westfield Womens League in October and its a great pathway for our junior girls.
We want the same for our thousands of junior boys to complete the elite pathway.
Football is the biggest participation code in Canberra and the region, over 17,000 play every week in Canberra alone, and the Capital of Australia should have a team in the National League.
Canberrans can support the bid by becoming Foundation Members, its the most important thing football fans, and the community can do to ensure we get a team in 2010, added Slavich
Football Federation Australia is expected to discuss Canberras 2010/11 bid in mid-October along with West Sydney and Wollongong.

For further details on the bid or to sign up as a Foundation or Corporate Foundation Member go to www.a-league4canberra.com

Illawarra:

http://www.southcoastfootball.com.au/
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
Greenpoleffc said:
The dilemma for the governing body is that western Sydney has yet to produce a cogent bid. Talks have been held with a number of interested parties, including Socceroos skipper Lucas Neill and ANZ Stadium, but so far nothing concrete has emerged.

Sydney FC chairman Andrew Kemeny has also made public his concerns about a second Sydney team in 2010, suggesting the market is not yet strong enough to support two teams.

Bollocks. The Sydney market will easily support 2 teams but on day 1, a W Syd side will pwn Sydney Hakoah and thats why the current head f**kwit is running scared.

If very poor that SFC poor management, marketing skills, ability to connect to the football family, poorly located ........ can have such influence and for Andrew Kemeny to pretend that somehow WS is not ready for a team is a joke. IMO SFC if the Gong get in should move to Parrmatta full house every week I think ..... but Andrew give us a break ...... and people wonder why some say never let in anyone from the old NSL into new football....... Andrew supports the case for old NSL management are just not up to it.
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
My tip with Top Cat on board and Bruce Gordon & now the Police and Community Youth Clubs as a major sponsor the gong will get it.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/football/a-league/ffa-extends-deadline-for-12th-team/2008/10/17/1223750331543.html

FFA extends deadline for 12th team

Michael Cockerill

October 18, 2008


FOOTBALL Federation Australia is set to delay a decision on the 12th team to join the A-League until February, with the governing body yet to be convinced of the merits of the four major bidders.

The FFA board met in Brisbane on Wednesday and finally approved North Queensland's submission to become the 10th team next season, alongside Gold Coast United. A second Victorian team, tentatively named Melbourne Heart but likely to be called Melbourne City, is all but assured of joining the league in 2010 as the 11th side, but the choice of the 12th team remains up in the air.

A Wollongong bid, called South Coast FC, continues to lead a tight race that includes Canberra, western Sydney and, somewhat surprisingly, Tasmania. While the FFA had flagged the possibility of making a decision before Christmas, the board has now given the interested parties another four months to shore up their bids.

The Herald understands the delay is more about finetuning details than the tight economic climate, because at least two of the bids, Canberra and Tasmania, are likely to include some form of state government funding.

South Coast, to be subsidised by billionaire WIN Corporation owner Bruce Gordon, further boosted its bid yesterday by completing a five-year deal with Police and Community Youth Clubs (NSW) to develop a training and administration centre at North Wollongong, which will also double as Tim Cahill's first youth academy. PCYC will also assist the operations of South Coast's youth team. The club yesterday claimed the deal - believed to be worth more than $1.5 million a year - would shave at least 25 per cent off the costs of running an A-League team.

In return, South Coast players would be contractually obliged to promote and support PCYC programs, while Cahill's involvement would help develop programs for disadvantaged children as well as promote the A-League bid.

"I'm very confident that ultimately the South Coast will be successful in obtaining a licence," Cahill said. "There's been a lot of work gone into the bid, and it's only a matter of time."

Meanwhile, west Sydney's bid is yet to crystallise, although a consortium including Socceroos skipper Lucas Neill and radio personality Alan Jones could yet get off the ground.

■ The FFA expects to learn at next week's cabinet meeting whether the Federal Government will fund the $50-60 million cost of making a bid for the 2018 World Cup. The world governing body, FIFA, is expected to make a decision on hosting rights by 2011.

Australia's chances received a boost recently when powerful Asian Football Confederation president Mohammad Bin Hammam indicated Australia was the only serious bidder from Asia, suggesting powerful regional rivals China might had dropped out of the race.

■ In local transfer news, former Sydney FC defender Mark Milligan, who has been linked to Newcastle Jets, has been offered a deal by Greek side Iraklis. Milligan has not played at club level since the end of last season, and was dropped from the national squad for this week's World Cup qualifier against Qatar because of his lack of match fitness.

Socceroos defender Craig Moore has become a priority target for A-League newcomers North Queensland. Moore is off contract at Queensland Roar at the end of the season.

Sydney FC defender Iain Fyfe is yet to accept the club's offer of a new two-year deal.

■ Australia's World Cup qualifying campaign has received a further boost with confirmation that four key Bahrain players - defender Abdullah Marzooq, midfielders Mohammed Salmeen and Abdullah Omar, and skipper Sayed Wadaei - will be suspended for next month's match in Manama.
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
Meanwhile, west Sydney's bid is yet to crystallise, although a consortium including Socceroos skipper Lucas Neill and radio personality Alan Jones could yet get off the ground.

Dont follow him into the toilets Lucas................Jones FFS involved in our game. Beggars belief
 

goingtoadisco

Well-Known Member
is he not hosting the bosnich lunch ?

i dont want to see another melbourne team, they already have a team to support, why do they need another one ??
 

bulldogmariner

Well-Known Member
goingtoadisco said:
is he not hosting the bosnich lunch ?

i dont want to see another melbourne team, they already have a team to support, why do they need another one ??
I would rather see a provincial Victoria team like Geelong. I really do think the league should stay one team one city.
 

goingtoadisco

Well-Known Member
bulldogmariner said:
goingtoadisco said:
is he not hosting the bosnich lunch ?

i dont want to see another melbourne team, they already have a team to support, why do they need another one ??
I would rather see a provincial Victoria team like Geelong. I really do think the league should stay one team one city.

word out is they will be called melbourne city.
 

mariners4ever

Well-Known Member
goingtoadisco said:
bulldogmariner said:
goingtoadisco said:
is he not hosting the bosnich lunch ?

i dont want to see another melbourne team, they already have a team to support, why do they need another one ??
I would rather see a provincial Victoria team like Geelong. I really do think the league should stay one team one city.

word out is they will be called melbourne city.
yeh i saw that or melbourne heart
 

bulldogmariner

Well-Known Member
The question i have about expansion is where they are going to find 120 new players to play in the A-League without the quality of the competition dropping?
N Qld are already struggling to attract players!
 

Kareem

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bulldogmariner said:
The question i have about expansion is where they are going to find 120 new players to play in the A-League without the quality of the competition dropping?
N Qld are already struggling to attract players!
100 players IMO and I agree- how on earth is that going to happen?
we are talkin bout bench players gettin on the field- Hoffmans, Gumprechts etc. as 1st team players
 

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