2014 AFC Champions League

[true believer]

good for you roy ray and if the ref shakes his head and calls you an amor ,that's white monkey.
god I love the afc .

 

[Wombat]

There is a difference between the words Thai and Jap:

Who cares.

Is TB really going to upset our masses of Japenese members but calling them Japs?

I bring more non Anglos to the games than everyone apart from Kareem.

Loosen up Vic.

 

[Wombat]

Mariners Beaten but Unbowed​

As the first half was drawing to a close it seemed as if the Mariners could squeeze a result out of this game. They had weathered an early ferocious storm and seemed to have recovered enough poise and purpose to keep Beijing Guoan at bay. But when Matt Simon almost lost an arm in a wrestle with an aggressive defender and lost possession of the ball Guoan broke away. In the A League this would have been a foul any day of the week but this is the ACL and no foul was called. The ball was moved quickly to the dangerous Shao whose finish was far too good for Liam Reddy.
Reddy it was who kept the Mariners in the game in the first quarter of an hour with three outstanding saves as Peter Utaka led the assault on his goal. As if his skills aren’t enough, Utaka, a Nigerian, is a freak of nature: built like a rhinoceros with the pace of a cheetah. He threatened to run amok in those early stages. Eddie Bosnar rose to the challenge and appeared to love the physical involvement.
Some of the full blooded scything tackles thrown by the Chinese defenders would have earned cautions and even straight reds in the A League but most of the challenges went unpunished. Matt Simon was a human tackle bag giving little sympathy by the referee. The frantic pace of the game often showed up the lack of technique from the Mariners; with less time to think the simplest of passes frequently went astray.
The Mariners are a team of great character and slowly they clawed their way back into the game and settled into a better rhythm; Hutchinson calming things down, Trifiro showing neat skills, and Fitzgerald willing to take people on. Bernie Ibini, who seemed overawed by the return to China, blazed a shot wide from an angle; the Mariners were fighting back and having a go.
Guoan reminded of their threat when Reddy had to go full length to save a shot from distance after poor defensive ball security and then Reddy again, stretching to get his fingertips to a cross from Utaka after Bernie had slipped over. All the Mariners brave resistance was brought undone when Simon was fouled and Shao comprehensively beat Reddy to deal a psychological blow just on half time.
After an untidy start to the half where the Mariners struggled under pressure to keep the ball on the ground Bosnar almost brought them back in to it. Trifiro was brutally brought down and Bosnar’s free kick was turned on to the post by the keeper, from the clearance, Bosnar with a cheeky right foot curler, hit the bar. It was cruel luck on Eddie who seemed to relish the combat.
Fitzgerald, one of the more positive of our players, brought a save from the keeper ten minutes later with a shot from the edge of the area. Cernak replaced the ineffective Ibini; Rose had a shot deflected for a corner. The Mariners were pressing well, playing with a sense of purpose, when they were undone by school boy defending.
A long ball from defence and three Mariners went for it and missed it; slick passing from Guoan had Utaka away and he confidently sidestepped Reddy and rolled the ball in to the net. The Mariners responded, with Duke replacing Trifiro, and pushed forward.
Rose broke free down the left and from the corner Anderson got a header on target but it had no venom. Fitzgerald showed great skill to almost wriggle through. The Mariners should have scored moments later when Bosnar’s free kick after Simon was fouled had Guoan all at sea but no Mariner could get the final touch. Finally the Mariners got the break they deserved. Confusion from a corner and Guoan conceded a penalty. Up stepped Fitzgerald to calmly bang it past the keeper and bring respectability to the scoreline.
The Mariners were often outgunned but never subdued; they showed great character to fight back. They certainly are not out of the contest for this Group. Reddy was phenomenal in the first half, without him we would have been swamped; Bosnar lead from the back and played with great determination; Hutchinson did his best to keep things calm and Fitzgerald worked hard and confidently for 90 minutes. Simon will feel as if a chiropractor had walked all over his back.
Moss surprised us all by starting Trifiro and benching Kim Seung-yong. It was a big step up for Trifiro from NSW PL to the ACL but he responded splendidly with an energetic, confident and skilful display.
Reddy was our saviour today and so gets my MoM but Trifiro’s performance deserves special mention.

Sad to say that it would have been a foul if an Aussie player had dragged an Asian player to the ground like that.
Not sure if it is corruption or racism or ineptitude that allows a decision like that to take place.

 

[Wombat]

It may well be Aussie to shorten words but if on occasion that results in a term with offensive and racist connotations then perhaps it is better to avoid that word. Some may feel this is being politically correct, others may see it as simply showing due respect and common decency.



The word may have its origins buried in the past but the current meaning continues to be offensive.


I find it interesting when people stand by and do/say nothing.
When is the right time to speak out? When deportations start?
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” - Edmund Burke

Jesus Vic....it's not the Holocuast we are talking about!
Good to see you keeping a level head and not over reacting!

 

[tsd]

Who cares.

Is TB really going to upset our masses of Japenese members but calling them Japs?

I bring more non Anglos to the games than everyone apart from Kareem.

Loosen up Vic.

a
Are you saying it's ok to use racist terms so long as the ethnic group isn't around to be offended?

 

[tsd]

what a bizarre tangent this thread has gone down. not actual straight out old fashioned racism, but some kind of "how much racism is except able" debate

 

[style_cafe]

Can we move the political correct debate to another thread.?
It kinda spoils the tone of a good match in which our lads gave their all.

 

[Jaundice]

what a bizarre tangent this thread has gone down. not actual straight out old fashioned racism, but some kind of "how much racism is except able" debate

No, whats bizarre is this relatively recent phenomenon of the rise of the self righteous pseudo intellectuals that militantly pursue political correction looking for the racist 'boogeyman' under everyones bed.

Im not sure if they actually understand just how patronizing they are trying to tell other groups what they should be offended by.

 

[kevrenor]

Change of content: AFC report on the game:
http://www.the-afc.com/en/acl-news/acl-reports/27935-manzano-happy-to-come-through-unscathed.html

 

[Wombat]

a
Are you saying it's ok to use racist terms so long as the ethnic group isn't around to be offended?

I don't find the term Jap offensive or Racist.

Vic wouldn't have raised it if TB was calling an English player a Pom.

I'm suggesting you, Vic and any other bleeding hearts need to chill a little.

 

[eenfish]

I don't find the term Jap offensive or Racist.

Vic wouldn't have raised it if TB was calling an English player a Pom.

I'm suggesting you, Vic and any other bleeding hearts need to chill a little.

Its racist because it is an old term that goes back to WW2 where there was rampant racism against the Japanese. I can take that in the context of war, but that was 70 years ago man.

Just don't say it. Just add a couple more syllables. It aint that hard.

Also "bleeding hearts" just makes you sound like Alan Jones, not a good look.

 

[Gratis]

I think everyone can agree it's pretty racist and insulting to call anyone Alan Jones

 

[bikinigirl]

. now i thought i had said my piece but now people are throwing about the ugly racism terminology ... i'm afraid i can't help myself. claims of racism have always confused me.

. the only 'race' i have ever identified with being a part of is the human race. if people consider themselves to be of a race other than human or they consider others to be of a race other than human ... then, i'm sorry but the problem does not lay with me. you are considering yourself or others to be superior or inferior to the human race ... so much so that you wish to classify them separately. certainly seems to me an odd way to encourage inclusiveness and tolerance of differences

 

[Wombat]

Its racist because it is an old term that goes back to WW2 where there was rampant racism against the Japanese. I can take that in the context of war, but that was 70 years ago man.

Just don't say it. Just add a couple more syllables. It aint that hard.

Also "bleeding hearts" just makes you sound like Alan Jones, not a good look.

Alan Jones is an annoying faggot........lol.....sorry cant help myself with the PC brigade.

 

[style_cafe]

Its racist because it is an old term that goes back to WW2 where there was rampant racism against the Japanese. I can take that in the context of war, but that was 70 years ago man.

Just don't say it. Just add a couple more syllables. It aint that hard.

Also "bleeding hearts" just makes you sound like Alan Jones, not a good look.

Ok, I tried to stay out of this but I have to say, words can change meanings or can develop further over time.
When the Japanese soldiers were beheading our troops, or torturing my uncle in Singapore long before you were born the term "Jap" may have been derogatory.
These days it`s not.
Today it means a person from Japan, nothing more nothing less.
It`s a term I use, much like I got called a Pom years ago.
If i`m racist then I put my hand up & wonder why I have a Jap friend that I have known for 34 years & also wonder why I befriended a Jap tourist from Hiroshima at a recent AFC game & signed him into the leagues to have a beer.
I`m also amazed that you would consider me a racist when I also have many Italian,Greek,Croatian,Lebanese,Serbian,Macedonian,Irish,Scottish & Welsh friends to name but a few.
I can certainly thank "Football" for many of those friendships & for breaking down the barriers that once existed many years ago.
You would be " C u n t e d " to think otherwise.

 

[true believer]

did I say I love the afc .

 

[sydmariner]

i dont cos they wouldn't let us fire the cannonn after we scored those 2 goals the other week against sanfrecce NAZIS

 

[Jaundice]

did I say I love the afc .

 

[priorpeter]

I think everyone can agree it's pretty racist and insulting to call anyone Alan Jones

That's it, shut it down, he's won.

 

[true believer]

Tuesday I get to see the mariners . did I sa,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

ok for the kiddies with business brains . why when we live in the best part of the world aren't we doing
some sort of adds and getting them posted on our visitors web sites promoting central coast tourism.
if your coming to see your team from asia . why not stay for a week ? go for a fish ? a game of golf ? come for a beer after the game .
a 1000 people if they stay for week and there's a million pumped into the coast .