Walmsley back at Mariners

[sydmariner]

Need a smiley with us patting each other on the back and agreeing heartily

is this not good enough

 

[Big Al]

I think everyone backs the youth policy for the club. Like an AIS team with some veterans.

The key is to give youth that have potetional as well as skill. You can't just go any old youngster based on age. Better off only having 2 if they are quality and spending the time on them then having 5 when 3 of them just aren't up to it. By all means give them ago because you just don't know till you throw them in there but don't just stick because they are young.
This is a professional Comp and its important to have an identity.

There was big fan fare over signing Kalik and Rose with good reason and they seem worry and we should put a lot into them within reason.

Would we get the equivalent again? Was it Arnie or the clubs youth success or both that won them over?

 

[dibo]

Walmsley vows recruitment revamp for Mariners
11 min ago
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Central Coast’s new technical director Tony Walmsley says the Mariners’ foreign recruitment hasn’t worked out this season and his brief is to improve the quality of players the club brings in.

Walmsley returned to the Mariners last month after a spell as the head of Academy recruitment at Sheffield United.

He previously served as an assistant coach to Graham Arnold and as the Central Coast’s National Youth League coach.

Walmsley admits the Mariners have some way to go but is positive about the future of the club.

“I'm really positive about how the club is shaping up for the future,” he told FourFourTwo.

“There's some ground to make up, but I really appreciate the welcome I received and couldn't be more optimistic.

“I'm introducing a robust system that captures information to inform player retention and drive recruitment activity.

“Talent identification and development of talented youth players is a key part of the strategy.

“The start point is always your existing players and we need to communicate this to the current group so they understand how they can be successful under the new model.”

Walmsley said the technical director role is unique to each club.

“At the Mariners it's about aligning the football department to the commercial objectives of the club towards sustainability,” he said.

“That works in two ways; on the pitch through a proactive attacking style that excites the fans, and the introduction of a squad model that measures talent and drives talent identification, recruitment and global demand.

“The league is maturing rapidly. The salary cap is a leveller and clubs have limited resources. The typical model is head coach driven and to engage a technical director requires a shift in thinking.”

One of Walmsley’s duties will be to help sign and recruit players to the Central Coast.

“In terms of leadership, yes, but it's important through the process to use the intellect and experience within the group to ensure decisions are balanced,” he said.

“The current squad will be reviewed over the coming weeks with those out of contract being tabled first. When negotiations start it will be from a position of absolute clarity. The acquisition of new players is being planned so we can go to market with a clear message.”

The Mariners brought in Malick Mane, Kim Seung-yong and Richard Vernes last year. Mane’s loan was terminated in November, Kim departed in December and Vernes has made just eight A-League appearances.

The Mariners have signed a partnership with Everton, which may see some Everton Under-21 Development players join the A-League club. Walmsley is hoping to get to the UK before the end of the current A-League season.

“Initially the partnership is about providing a quality loan environment for players,” he said.

“I will work with Joe Royle on the identification of those with the best fit. It has to work for both clubs. The Mariners has been a success story for a decade. The imports this season didn't work out, but we are forward looking.

“The challenge to uncover untapped talent is exciting and of course we have the Everton players to look forward to for next season.”

Central Coast has punched above its weight over the past decade in terms of producing players for higher honours, with the likes of ex-Mariners Mat Ryan, Trent Sainsbury, Alex Wilkinson and Mile Jedinak all current members of the Socceroos.

“There was a lot of pride from Mariners fans in the Asian Cup recently with four former players represented,” Walmsley said.

“The aim as a footballer is to keep improving and our model is working when we identify and nurture the right players through the A League to capture the eye of a global market.”


Read more at http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/walmsley-vows-recruitment-revamp-mariners#yVV4UUqLJ09PCBk1.99

 

[Gratis]

good

 

[nearlyyellow]

Tony Walmsley said " .. it's about aligning the football department to the commercial objectives of the club .. "

Good, yes, but hmmmm ?

 

[dibo]

Ensuring that when we spend on players, they're players who will play in a style that is marketable, don't cost too much and have potential to earn us money and attention down the track (like when half of Asia would have been going "who are these Central Coast Mariners that pumped out more Socceroos than any other club?").

Rumour on SFCU (this time not from Mick, but from a NPL club TD) that Moss has already been advised he's not required next year.

Would therefore need a new manager who works under a TD inside a 'team driven' football department, rather than a 'manager driven' football department.

 

[nearlyyellow]

Rumour on SFCU (this time not from Mick, but from a NPL club TD) that Moss has already been advised he's not required next year.

He has a 3 year contract, doesn't he? Failing contract clauses that we aren't privy to (KPI's ?) then it will cost the Club a fair bit to pay out his remaining 2 years. That'll put a hole in the cash available for the "commercial activities". And won't Wombat et al be crowing!

 

[midfielder]

Would therefore need a new manager who works under a TD inside a 'team driven' football department, rather than a 'manager driven' football department.

Not necessarily..

 

[scoober]

He has a 3 year contract, doesn't he? Failing contract clauses that we aren't privy to (KPI's ?) then it will cost the Club a fair bit to pay out his remaining 2 years. That'll put a hole in the cash available for the "commercial activities". And won't Wombat et al be crowing!

You would be surprised how little he is on, so I don't think it will take too much of a hit.

 

[dibo]

You would be surprised how little he is on, so I don't think it will take too much of a hit.

Personally, I hope it's not the end of the road for him.

Not necessarily..

Given we've just hired a TD who is in control of recruitment and retention, it's a fair bet that the new manager will necessarily have to be able to work within that structure. We're hardly going to set up a system only to hire someone who can't work within it.

 

[nearlyyellow]

You would be surprised how little he is on, so I don't think it will take too much of a hit.

I know I'm not talking $M's here, but even $300k. would be a hit to cash flow, wouldn't it? And I'd be very surprised if any settlement agreed upon by (ahem) Mossy's legal folk would be puny, given the potential blow to his career prospects.

Personally, I hope it's not the end of the road for him.

Never met him, never spoken to him. But I agree here. Maybe he is out of his depth coaching an A League team at this stage of his career. But imho he was probably hired as the most cost effective option, the man on the spot, the man who probably had GA's nod?

 

[dibo]

Me either. But I hate the idea of the Mariners being a place that *anyone* remembers with bitterness and regret as the place where their potential career was snuffed out.

 

[Capt. Awesome]

Ensuring that when we spend on players, they're players who will play in a style that is marketable, don't cost too much and have potential to earn us money and attention down the track (like when half of Asia would have been going "who are these Central Coast Mariners that pumped out more Socceroos than any other club?").

Rumour on SFCU (this time not from Mick, but from a NPL club TD) that Moss has already been advised he's not required next year.

Would therefore need a new manager who works under a TD inside a 'team driven' football department, rather than a 'manager driven' football department.

Certainly in for some interesting times next year. Another rebuilding year.

 

[VicMariner]

This year our recruitment was hit and miss (mostly miss). To find players that fit into an overall plan sounds much better.
Feeling a bit more positive about next season.

 

[Big Al]

If true was given a chance and results say hey didn't perform as did the style of play.

Don't think he can be to bitter he was given a go and knew the Mariners style of operations and was quite a good tow the line kind of guy.

Best of luck to him my problems are purely pitch related. Would have preferred he did succeed. I was certainly cheering him at the end of last season but I also cheered him all season just saw it falling away.

 

[Wombat]

He has a 3 year contract, doesn't he? Failing contract clauses that we aren't privy to (KPI's ?) then it will cost the Club a fair bit to pay out his remaining 2 years. That'll put a hole in the cash available for the "commercial activities". And won't Wombat et al be crowing!

Not crowing but certainly happy. I gave Mossy a B- on my end of season scorecard last season and was hoping he could kick on and we would have another good year.
Then I watched the pre-season games and knew we were in trouble.
Then I watched the opening 6 or 7 games and realised we were in deep trouble.
I have nothing against him at all but at this stage of his career he is no where near the required level of a HAL coach.
Personally I won't be chanting Mossy out because he deserves more respect than that but I do hope he gives it away at the end of the season.

 

[elevated position]

Me either. But I hate the idea of the Mariners being a place that *anyone* remembers with bitterness and regret as the place where their potential career was snuffed out.

That is one side to it and the other is if you are a player trying to have a career and you are thrown a coach who is out of his depth and your career stalls then you will be an "anyone' blaming the Mariners because no one will remember who Moss is.
And if the rumor is right about Moss being let go let it happen now so the incoming manager gets his act together in the remaining games and start the next season on a positive note.

 

[style_cafe]

I`m not one for changing coaches mid-season as I`ve said before.
If he stays until the end of the season it removes all the "what ifs", the end of season results will tell the story.
With all due respect Mossy is a likeable guy, but he was pulled from relative obscurity & given the assistants job because he was a mate of Arnie`s.
Until then his coaching record hadn`t reached any dizzy heights, although he had shown some great potential (apparently)

If he does go though, it will be another milestone in our clubs` short but illustrious history being the first coach to have his contract terminated by the club.

 

[soccer mad]

Coaches live by their own sword every day ,they will always back themselves, there's no doubt our year this year will be fruitless. But Mossy can't shelter all the blame particularly with the decision the board down have put the club under,but all that aside for me personally it's always about the football and that my mariner friends is where i draw the line between coach and players and thats where I feel Mossy falls short ,we have lost a lot of personnel this year that doesn't help ,but Mossy is our leader forget politics for a minute it's just our football we've become to telepathic and pedestrian in our play .Moving Forward has become cleche these days , the irony is we haven't.

 

[Wombat]

Dodgy English...but I'm not arguing with the post.