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Turbulence (then calm sailing, then turbulence) thread.

adz

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the rest of the interview above (in case you didn't click the link :D)

Q. Does the same philosophy apply to your players, in other words if they do get bigger offers you won't stand in their way?

A. The culture of the Mariners is that we're a team that will always attract the best young talent in Australia. We've sold in excess of $3 million worth of players overseas over the last three or four years, which is more than any other club.

Young players can look at the Mariners and say, “They do look after their youth, they do provide a progression”. You can see that in the last few months with Tom Rogic. Does that mean we're a selling club? I wouldn't call us a selling club, I'd call us a developmental club.


Q. Are there any parts of the A-League model which you think need particular emphasis in the near future?

A. I believe the clubs need a greater level of autonomy. I would like to slowly move towards a self-ownership model, I would like a greater say in how the league is run.

The new management structure is excellent; David Gallop has got a good team around him, they're very communicative, they listen to us like never before, so we're on the right track. But there are areas of improvement.
If we are to attract serious investment, to attract the wealthy investors - and I wouldn't put myself in that category - then we need to move towards more autonomy. An MLS model, maybe, where you get a greater say in the destiny of your own investment. That's what I would like to see evolve.


Q. Where do the Mariners themselves need to improve?

A. We have to get to a break-even point as soon as possible. We're still losing money. The financial difficulties we've had has meant certain cutbacks. We lost (former youth coach) Tony Walmsley overseas (Sheffield United), which left a big hole, for instance. So we need to cover that.

But generally speaking the structure is good, the squad is strong enough. It's more a case of fine-tuning. For instance, it's my vision to have greater control to have junior teams, rep teams, on the Central Coast. They should be all under the professional club of the area. That gives sponsorship advantages, advantages in terms of marketing. At the moment I see it as very fragmented in the area.


Q. The Centre of Excellence at Tuggerah? Have you cleaned up the situation there?

A. Tuggerah is very much part of the future. The vision put in place by Peter Turnbull and Lyall Gorman was the right one. Football clubs inherently don't make money, but the commercial activities around football can. That was the intention of the development.

It's a fantastic development, and it's my commitment to see that through. It will happen over the next two years. We will have the most successful football-based development in Australia, bar none.


Q. So work will re-start shortly?
A. Yes.


Q. And the full vision will be realised?
A. Absolutely.


Q. A different tack. Where does the Asian Champions League fit in your priorities?

A. That's a difficult one. Financially, we lose money. It's fundamentally wrong, in my opinion, to go into a competition expecting to lose money. That's not how it should be. It's something we have to look at very closely for next season.


Q. Are you suggesting you may not accept an invitation for next year?

A. It's a big question mark. We need to get to a point of break-even as quickly as possible, so it's a case of sitting down and looking at the pros and cons.


Q. The Russian investors? Is a deal still possible?

A. It's still possible, like other deals are still possible. My commitment to this club is to put it on a sound financial footing and see through the (Tuggerah) development. If there are people wealthier than me, and they're willing to come in - it could be the people from Russia, the people from China, the people from the Moon, who knows - then of course we'll talk to them.

Yes, if the Russians are willing to come good, then we will sit down and try and strike a deal. We want investment in the Mariners; we don't want to be turning money down. If that means me leaving the club in six, 12 months’ time because it gets sold to Russia's wealthiest man, most people on the Central Coast wouldn't be too upset by that.


Q. The final question, then, if someone else does come in to take over, how important to you is it that they keep the culture going?

A. It's incredibly important that it remains. All the discussions we've had with potential buyers, they agree, they believe in the culture. There might be more money around for a marquee player, for instance, but the actual culture won't change.
 

FFC Mariner

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Love the last answer.

Personally, I'd be happy to have a few dickheads in the club if they are marquees and make us more successful.

Well maybe not Joey Barton but you get my point
 

nikko

Suspended
A. It's still possible, like other deals are still possible. My commitment to this club is to put it on a sound financial footing and see through the (Tuggerah) development. If there are people wealthier than me, and they're willing to come in - it could be the people from Russia, the people from China, the people from the Moon, who knows - then of course we'll talk to them.

I like the people from the moon quote
 

MrCelery

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Central Coast Mariners coach Graham Arnold at training. Picture: Mark Scott. Source: The Courier-Mail
TONIGHT the Mariners will fight to keep their Asian Champions League campaign alive, but new owner Mike Charlesworth says he will then begin to address the club's longer-term future.
Graham Arnold's squad faces Chinese side Guizhou Renhe in the ACL, with Charlesworth having averted the immediate financial crisis that had engulfed the club.
The Mariners desperately need a victory to put themselves back in contention for a top-two finish in their group, while Charlesworth is in the background working his way through the most pressing financial issues.
Not the least is restarting work on the club's major property development that he said would ultimately direct money back into the club.
There are creditors from the Tax Office down to be dealt with, plus the futures of six players coming off contract to be settled - including the league's leading scorer, Daniel McBreen, and young Socceroo goalkeeper Mathew Ryan.

"Financial stability is the initial priority, which is probably no great surprise, and then we can build on that after what will hopefully end as a great season," Charlesworth said.
"We need to find a sustainable model. I haven't bought into the club to struggle on our knees for several years. We want to build a successful enterprise.
"That includes the development (the club's centre of excellence and associated commercial premises at Tuggerah), which when it's finished will give us the security and stability.
"The model so far has shown that a sporting club based in Gosford will struggle, so we need other revenue streams. Once the development is finished we'll be a very wealthy club.
"I'm in the process of paying off the creditors and getting the builders back on site so that we can push on with the development. There's no doubt the buildings will be finished in 18 months to two years. They have to."
Arnold's only major headaches are who to play against Guizhou, with a full squad bar Adam Kwasnik to call on.
The Mariners face the Chinese side twice in a week, travelling for the away fixture next Tuesday before an A-League elimination final the following Sunday.
But after a draw and a loss in their opening two games, victory tonight is essential.
"Last year I thought we had a successful (ACL) campaign," Arnold said. "This year we want to be in the same position. We want to be in a position to reach the last 16.
"We all know what an important seven days this is for us. With the fact we've got the weekend off from the A-League, it was important we made the top two to keep our weekend free and we did that quite convincingly.
"So we've got our sole focus on (facing Guizhou)."
 

Roy Law

Well-Known Member
" plus the futures of six players coming off contract to be settled - including the league's leading scorer, Daniel McBreen, and young Socceroo goalkeeper Mathew Ryan."
That is the intriguing line - is it the words of Charlesworth or the reporter?
Perhaps these potential negotiations are the reason Arnie says he would like to re-sign Matt Simon but there are salary cap restraints?
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
Given the quality of our recruitment strategies over 8 years and the brains in our football dept, I'm guessing we have a pretty keen idea of exactly how and who is in the frame.

We don't make it up as we go along (like Sydney or the Scum)
 

Jesus

Jesus
i have heard that simon is in place, but not perhaps with great authority. I think we need competition for danny, he had a great season, btu as with tonight, he still missed a fair few sitters and 1/2 chances and needs someone breathing down his neck
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
If he does, it had better be for a shipping container loaded with cash overseas and not up the road at Lambton.
 

Gratis

Well-Known Member
surely that'd have to be the case. macca knows he got the golden boot on the back of excellent team support which wouldn't happen elsewhere so the only sensible alternative for him is an asian payday contract. you'd hope
 

Roy Law

Well-Known Member
Can't see McBreen going, he is in a perfect place for his football right now and would never be able to repeat it elsewhere. If Matt Simon is coming back (and that seems to be the case) it will give the team even greater energy and provide real competition for places up front (he can also, as McBreen does, drop into that midfield role); and I really think Sterj will hang up his boots after this season.
 

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