The Salt Mine: Dig Deep, Stay Salty

[true believer]

Man you are some kind of ‘special’ (and I don’t mean in a good way) aren’t you TB?

You post a photo of damage to a GC beach immediately after a TC, which is not any indication of any climatic change in isolation and somehow then go on to sling another childish insult at me when I point that out but that’s your normal MO, so I shouldn’t be surprised.

Records actually show that there have been fewer and less severe cyclonic events since the 80’s but that doesn’t fit the narrative, so you deflect by slating me from another angle, how utterly childish.

Why don’t you try debating an issue instead of posting puerile personal barbs you moron.

ooh dear .
yes i will challenge someone who dishonestly champions anti-vaxxer fraud . that is already causing death and suffering world wide . whether they are naive enough to believe it .or simply bullshitting for billionaires bottom line. someone who has been told. that they need to find out wtf their talking about, has any basis in truth . someone who has regularly insulted people telling them contrary to their echo chamber naivety and beliefs .

agw has got to the point where even the thickest individuals can see it all around them .
the science is showing this in some basic of graphs i have already display .
you have had ample time to debate a number of issues .
instead your only go to is "every body is lying expect karen who read it on face book"

let me know when you have a point that isn't . "but but fauci killed puppies"

here is an easy one for you . why is andrew wakefield still breathing

 

[true believer]

"Research has shown a statistically-significant downward trend in the annual number of tropical cyclones in the Australian region over the period extending from 1981/82 to 2017/18"

Here are seven things to know about tropical cyclones

We’ve got some answers to a few questions you may have about cyclones.

www.csiro.au

of course this didn't account for

"and yet the sea keeps rising .despite exxon koch funded misinformation .
how are those gold coast property valves going ?"

this you ignored .in response to this

The Salt Mine: Dig Deep, Stay Salty

If he did actually say any of those things (The Media lies) then he is losing the plot. He reposted someone else's post saying this, it can be found by searching Musk's personal X feed https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-musk-reposted-post-230000730.html

www.ccmfans.net

 

[true believer]

here is a reference point for those truthers

DeBunk: Rebutting False and Misleading Climate Narratives

Misleading information is a major blocker of climate action. Over the coming months DeSmog will pilot the DeBunk project, a social media info service designed to correct false climate narratives, arm the public with science (and its sources) and expose serial misinformers and pro-fossil fuel...

www.desmog.com

 

[FFC Mariner]

Poor Elmo. Being a nazi isn't easy

 

[Hello Sailor]

What a tease! I kept hitting the PLAY button and nothing happened! {I planned on enjoying multiple replays}

 

[true believer]

price less

 

[true believer]

 

[Ozhammer]

ooh dear .
yes i will challenge someone who dishonestly champions anti-vaxxer fraud . that is already causing death and suffering world wide . whether they are naive enough to believe it .or simply bullshitting for billionaires bottom line. someone who has been told. that they need to find out wtf their talking about, has any basis in truth . someone who has regularly insulted people telling them contrary to their echo chamber naivety and beliefs .

agw has got to the point where even the thickest individuals can see it all around them .
the science is showing this in some basic of graphs i have already display .
you have had ample time to debate a number of issues .
instead your only go to is "every body is lying expect karen who read it on face book"

let me know when you have a point that isn't . "but but fauci killed puppies"

here is an easy one for you . why is andrew wakefield still breathing

You have no idea of my position on vaccination in general and I have never made any of the claims you blithely saddle me with on this issue, so you need to back the fk off buddy.

When I previously posted my opinion on the COVID injections, I was quickly shut down on here, so, so much for supposedly honest and open debate eh? I personally know no one that died of, or even with, COVID but I do know of three people that have been seriously harmed by the supposed cure, so make of that what you will, it’s just a fact of my lived experience.

I have no doubt that you are so wedded to your delusion regarding denial of the issues associated with the COVID jabs that your only recourse is to insult me in such a juvenile manner but I can live quite happily with my position on this issue thanks.

As for the issue of climate change, there is plenty of evidence for arguments on both sides of that debate and the science is certainly anything but settled no matter what you might want me and others to believe and so I guess the truth might lie somewhere in between.

I do my own research to see where that takes me as should anyone looking to form a reasoned view. What I do know however, is the slavish pursuit of a net zero agenda being currently taken by Australia and many other supposedly advanced nations is making each of them energy poor and weakening their economies, whilst China and other economies not kowtowiing to the WEF dogma are benefiting hugely go figure.

 

[marinermick]

You have no idea of my position on vaccination in general and I have never made any of the claims you blithely saddle me with on this issue, so you need to back the fk off buddy.

When I previously posted my opinion on the COVID injections, I was quickly shut down on here, so, so much for supposedly honest and open debate eh? I personally know no one that died of, or even with, COVID but I do know of three people that have been seriously harmed by the supposed cure, so make of that what you will, it’s just a fact of my lived experience.

I have no doubt that you are so wedded to your delusion regarding denial of the issues associated with the COVID jabs that your only recourse is to insult me in such a juvenile manner but I can live quite happily with my position on this issue thanks.

As for the issue of climate change, there is plenty of evidence for arguments on both sides of that debate and the science is certainly anything but settled no matter what you might want me and others to believe and so I guess the truth might lie somewhere in between.

I do my own research to see where that takes me as should anyone looking to form a reasoned view. What I do know however, is the slavish pursuit of a net zero agenda being currently taken by Australia and many other supposedly advanced nations is making each of them energy poor and weakening their economies, whilst China and other economies not kowtowiing to the WEF dogma are benefiting hugely go figure.

Yet China is leading the world in transitioning its economy to green energy and has spent more than double on renewable energy infrastructure than any other country.

Your research should have told you that.

 

[true believer]

You have no idea of my position on vaccination in general and I have never made any of the claims you blithely saddle me with on this issue, so you need to back the fk off buddy.

When I previously posted my opinion on the COVID injections, I was quickly shut down on here, so, so much for supposedly honest and open debate eh? I personally know no one that died of, or even with, COVID but I do know of three people that have been seriously harmed by the supposed cure, so make of that what you will, it’s just a fact of my lived experience.

I have no doubt that you are so wedded to your delusion regarding denial of the issues associated with the COVID jabs that your only recourse is to insult me in such a juvenile manner but I can live quite happily with my position on this issue thanks.

As for the issue of climate change, there is plenty of evidence for arguments on both sides of that debate and the science is certainly anything but settled no matter what you might want me and others to believe and so I guess the truth might lie somewhere in between.

I do my own research to see where that takes me as should anyone looking to form a reasoned view. What I do know however, is the slavish pursuit of a net zero agenda being currently taken by Australia and many other supposedly advanced nations is making each of them energy poor and weakening their economies, whilst China and other economies not kowtowiing to the WEF dogma are benefiting hugely go figure.

so fauci didn't kill puppies ?
china is of course the renewable super power . there is absolutely nothing you can / or have posted
that disputes blatantly obvious climate change .apart from 101 standard right speak outrage .
while howard killed kyoto 30 years ago .
if you have any research worth while , post it . or are we back to wind mills are killing whales ffs ?

 

[Ironbark]

As for the issue of climate change, there is plenty of evidence for arguments on both sides of that debate and the science is certainly anything but settled no matter what you might want me and others to believe and so I guess the truth might lie somewhere in between.

The science is absolutely clear and rigorous. There are zero doubts, statistically or otherwise, in the science as to what is occurring. It has been certain for decades.

The 'science is not settled' narrative is the tabacco style misinformation peddled by the fossil fuel industry and vested interests.

To be clear, this isn't just what I think from my random media intake. Environmental science is my professional field of expertise.

In the scientific community the idea that the science isn't settled is so absurd as to be laughable - or it would be if it wasn't so damn serious.

The biggest threat isn't actually climate change anyway. It's biodiversity loss.
Habitat destruction and fragmentation, pollution and invasive species are driving species to extinction at rates not seem since the mass extinctions of the past. Additionally we have lost 70% of all wildlife in the last 30 years. 30. Years.
This means ecosystem collapse.
Without functioning forests and oceans we don't last long.

Is climate change a problem? Definitely. But not for the reasons most people think.
Rising seas, more erratic and intense weather are big problems, sure. Ocean acidification is worse.

Change is the natural way of things and in and of itself fine. It's the rate of change, the speed of it that is most dandgerous.
Some species simply don't have time to adapt.
More importantly, whole systems don't have the time - and ecosystems (which we really on to exist) are currently, measurably and conclusively collapsing due to all of the above, at an alarming rate.

Climate change is a huge contributor and driver to all this so shouldn't be so readily dismissed.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

I do my own research to see where that takes me as should anyone looking to form a reasoned view. What I do know however, is the slavish pursuit of a net zero agenda being currently taken by Australia and many other supposedly advanced nations is making each of them energy poor and weakening their economies, whilst China and other economies not kowtowiing to the WEF dogma are benefiting hugely go figure.

You do realise that the moment you start complaining about 'adhering to WEF dogma' you lose all credibility, right?

Just a typical cooker cry. They love to whinge about the "WEF dogma". You have a lot more credibility if you don't follow their talking points.

Of course, "I do my own research" is also a typical conspiracist line, usually thrown out by people who do anything but that.

No idea where you get the 'energy poor and weakening economies' claim from. Must have been from that "independent research".

 

[Ozhammer]

Yet China is leading the world in transitioning its economy to green energy and has spent more than double on renewable energy infrastructure than any other country.

Your research should have told you that.

Happy to debate you on that Mick, as China is continuing to commission more coal fired and natural gas power stations each year, whilst also investing in nuclear power and other sources of clean energy, especially hydro. Solar and wind make up a very small amount of its current energy mix (less than 5%), so it’s hardly a leader at present but may perhaps become one in the future and it is still the largest contributor of CO2 globally.

What we are doing here in Australia is failing to maintain a sensible balance of energy sources, in order to ensure the stability and economics of supply, with more capacity predicted to exit the grid than will be entering it and that is a recipe for disaster.

In such a resource rich nation such as ours, there really is no logic in having amongst the highest energy prices in the world, all while our CO2 emissions are such a small fraction of the global output. This will kill our heavy industry capability and cause financial stress on households, so we need to have a proper debate on this, not just blindly pursue economic suicide.

And yes, my research did tell me all of the above.

 

[marinermick]

Happy to debate you on that Mick, as China is continuing to commission more coal fired and natural gas power stations each year, whilst also investing in nuclear power and other sources of clean energy, especially hydro. Solar and wind make up a very small amount of its current energy mix (less than 5%), so it’s hardly a leader at present but may perhaps become one in the future and it is still the largest contributor of CO2 globally.

What we are doing here in Australia is failing to maintain a sensible balance of energy sources, in order to ensure the stability and economics of supply, with more capacity predicted to exit the grid than will be entering it and that is a recipe for disaster.

In such a resource rich nation such as ours, there really is no logic in having amongst the highest energy prices in the world, all while our CO2 emissions are such a small fraction of the global output. This will kill our heavy industry capability and cause financial stress on households, so we need to have a proper debate on this, not just blindly pursue economic suicide.

And yes, my research did tell me all of the above.

Where is your source claiming that renewables comprise of less than five percent of China’s energy mix?

 

[Ironbark]

https://www.ceig.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/CEIG-MR_New-Report-confirms-renewables-reduce-power-prices_FINAL.pdf

 

[Hello Sailor]

MAGA consequence is that Canada is reviewing the purchase of more F35' as are European nations. French defence industries are reaping the benefit via home grown missile and Rafael fighter production. Domestic European missile shields are being considered as is a pan European nuclear deterrent. Trump's extortion of its allies and of Ukraine has made it an unreliable ally and possibly an adversary. The US arms industry is suffering as a result. Not really so great for America which is reaping what it sowed.

 

[Hello Sailor]

Where is your source claiming that renewables comprise of less than five percent of China’s energy mix?

I think he said "solar and wind", not all renewables which would include hydro [an energy source with its own environmental problems anyway] .

 

[true believer]

imagine what kind of person is a maga trumper christian