-
Join ccmfans.net
ccmfans.net is the Central Coast Mariners fan community, and was formed in 2004, so basically the beginning of time for the Mariners. Things have changed a lot over the years, but one thing has remained constant and that is our love of the Mariners. People come and go, some like to post a lot and others just like to read. It's up to you how you participate in the community!
If you want to get rid of this message, simply click on Join Now or head over to https://www.ccmfans.net/community/register/ to join the community! It only takes a few minutes, and joining will let you post your thoughts and opinions on all things Mariners, Football, and whatever else pops into your mind. If posting is not your thing, you can interact in other ways, including voting on polls, and unlock options only available to community members.
ccmfans.net is not only for Mariners fans either. Most of us are bonded by our support for the Mariners, but if you are a fan of another club (except the Scum, come on, we need some standards), feel free to join and get into some banter.
The EPL thread
- Thread starter Sym
- Start date
FFC Mariner
Well-Known Member
From the NoTW, the worst 11 from this seasons EPL.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/318968/Yes-here-it-is-the-very-poorest-11-players-of-the-season.html
THE WORST XI
Yes, here it is - the very poorest 11 players of the season
21/05/2009
SCOTT CARSON (WBA)
Was given another chance in the Premier League at the Hawthorns but has looked hesitant and short of confidence behind a poor defence.
How he ever won England caps is utterly beyond me.
EMMANUEL EBOUE (Arsenal)
Has looked woeful at times for a player of his experience. Would surely be out the door if Arsene Wenger had serious money to spend.
No team with Arsenal's Champions League ambitions can afford a player like Eboue.
MIKAEL SILVESTRE (Arsenal)
And it gets worse for Arsenal. Not only do they have Eboue, but they also have Silvestre.
Only signed as a stopgap but when he stepped in for crucial matches it wasn't hard to see why Fergie showed him the door at United.
MICAH RICHARDS (Man City)
Has completely lost his focus. Believes he is a far better player than he really is.
Positional sense is appalling and the only silverware he cares for are watches, bracelets, earrings, and chains. Needs to change his attitude immediately.
NICKY SHOREY (Aston Villa)
Had a great chance to show the form that got him into the England squad but threw it away. Looked sluggish and overweight all season.
Martin O'Neill's worst buy. Would struggle to get into the Reading team now.
DAVID BENTLEY (Tottenham)
His monumental ego has completely overshadowed his patchy contribution at the Lane. One brilliant goal at Arsenal is not enough to make a season.
Has been placed on transfer list and it's not hard to see why. Has struggled to get near the team since Harry Redknapp took charge.
JOEY BARTON (Newcastle)
Has let his team down every time he has been called upon. Has been an unmitigated disaster on Tyneside and it's hard to see anyone being prepared to give him yet another chance.
Has utterly squandered a fantastic natural talent and there can be no greater condemnation than that.
STEED MALBRANQUE (Sunderland)
Another waster with undoubted class who only looks interested when he is playing for a contract. Has been a passenger in relegation fight.
Spurs fans were sad to see him go, but it looks like one of the few decisions Juande Ramos got right in his brief stay at White Hart Lane.
ELANO (Man City)
Has had nose put out of joint by arrival of star names at City. Has let down supporters with his fitful contribution and will be on his bike this summer.
Came off with a mysterious 'something in his eye' injury earlier this month and has done nothing to endear himself to manager Mark Hughes.
JOHAN ELMANDER (Bolton)
He cost 8.2million from second-rate French club Toulouse and five goals in 29 games sums up what a costly mistake Gary Megson made. Looks completely out of place in the Premier League and has no discernible talent - not exactly a great recommendation in a side which has often struggled for goals.
AFONSO ALVES (Middlesbrough)
His failure to adapt to the Premier League after scoring regularly in the toy-town Dutch league is seen as the biggest factor in Boro's demise.
A very expensive mistake by Gareth Southgate and one which looks worse every time Alves gets on the pitch which, it must be said, is not very often.
MOST OVER-RATED PLAYER
Shaun Wright-Phillips (Man City)
Failed at Chelsea and has shown since his return last August that he cannot inspire his team-mates in the less pressurized atmosphere of Manchester City.
WORST KIT
Liverpool Away
This green shirt and dark shorts looks like army surplus gear. Liverpool have not won a league title since introducing a green away kit in the early 1990s. Which is the second reason it shoudl be dumped.
WORST GROUND
Fratton Park, Portsmouth
This must surely take this award hands down every year. Old, scruffy, antiquated. You need to go back to World War II for the last time it was fit for purpose.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/318968/Yes-here-it-is-the-very-poorest-11-players-of-the-season.html
THE WORST XI
Yes, here it is - the very poorest 11 players of the season
21/05/2009
SCOTT CARSON (WBA)
Was given another chance in the Premier League at the Hawthorns but has looked hesitant and short of confidence behind a poor defence.
How he ever won England caps is utterly beyond me.
EMMANUEL EBOUE (Arsenal)
Has looked woeful at times for a player of his experience. Would surely be out the door if Arsene Wenger had serious money to spend.
No team with Arsenal's Champions League ambitions can afford a player like Eboue.
MIKAEL SILVESTRE (Arsenal)
And it gets worse for Arsenal. Not only do they have Eboue, but they also have Silvestre.
Only signed as a stopgap but when he stepped in for crucial matches it wasn't hard to see why Fergie showed him the door at United.
MICAH RICHARDS (Man City)
Has completely lost his focus. Believes he is a far better player than he really is.
Positional sense is appalling and the only silverware he cares for are watches, bracelets, earrings, and chains. Needs to change his attitude immediately.
NICKY SHOREY (Aston Villa)
Had a great chance to show the form that got him into the England squad but threw it away. Looked sluggish and overweight all season.
Martin O'Neill's worst buy. Would struggle to get into the Reading team now.
DAVID BENTLEY (Tottenham)
His monumental ego has completely overshadowed his patchy contribution at the Lane. One brilliant goal at Arsenal is not enough to make a season.
Has been placed on transfer list and it's not hard to see why. Has struggled to get near the team since Harry Redknapp took charge.
JOEY BARTON (Newcastle)
Has let his team down every time he has been called upon. Has been an unmitigated disaster on Tyneside and it's hard to see anyone being prepared to give him yet another chance.
Has utterly squandered a fantastic natural talent and there can be no greater condemnation than that.
STEED MALBRANQUE (Sunderland)
Another waster with undoubted class who only looks interested when he is playing for a contract. Has been a passenger in relegation fight.
Spurs fans were sad to see him go, but it looks like one of the few decisions Juande Ramos got right in his brief stay at White Hart Lane.
ELANO (Man City)
Has had nose put out of joint by arrival of star names at City. Has let down supporters with his fitful contribution and will be on his bike this summer.
Came off with a mysterious 'something in his eye' injury earlier this month and has done nothing to endear himself to manager Mark Hughes.
JOHAN ELMANDER (Bolton)
He cost 8.2million from second-rate French club Toulouse and five goals in 29 games sums up what a costly mistake Gary Megson made. Looks completely out of place in the Premier League and has no discernible talent - not exactly a great recommendation in a side which has often struggled for goals.
AFONSO ALVES (Middlesbrough)
His failure to adapt to the Premier League after scoring regularly in the toy-town Dutch league is seen as the biggest factor in Boro's demise.
A very expensive mistake by Gareth Southgate and one which looks worse every time Alves gets on the pitch which, it must be said, is not very often.
MOST OVER-RATED PLAYER
Shaun Wright-Phillips (Man City)
Failed at Chelsea and has shown since his return last August that he cannot inspire his team-mates in the less pressurized atmosphere of Manchester City.
WORST KIT
Liverpool Away
This green shirt and dark shorts looks like army surplus gear. Liverpool have not won a league title since introducing a green away kit in the early 1990s. Which is the second reason it shoudl be dumped.
WORST GROUND
Fratton Park, Portsmouth
This must surely take this award hands down every year. Old, scruffy, antiquated. You need to go back to World War II for the last time it was fit for purpose.
FFC Mariner
Well-Known Member
The best - only 2 from Heavens v own club and Sir Roy doesnt get Mgr of the year but here it is anyway
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/318843/Check-out-our-Premier-League-team-of-the-season.html
Check out our Premier League team of the season
By AIDAN MAGEE, 21/05/2009
JUSSI JAASKELAINEN (Bolton)
How the Finn has never moved to a big club is a mystery.
His consistency played a massive part in keeping a less than ordinary side up and he's hardly put a foot wrong this season.
PATRICE EVRA (Man Utd)
Everything you would want from a Premier League full-back. Knows when to attack and when to defend and does both to an equally high standard.
Tackles hard, crosses well and plays a vital role in United's strategy.
NEMANJA VIDIC (Man Utd)
Perhaps the main reason for United's extraordinary run of clean sheets in mid-season. Has proved that old fashioned centre-backs are still in vogue.
Hasn't allowed the very occasional mistake to affect his confidence and is getting stronger and stronger.
BREDE HANGELAND (Fulham)
The Norwegian looked a donkey when he arrived in England 18 months ago. Now looks as solid and assured as anyone in the top flight.
Fulham will struggle to hang on to him this summer but it's vital for their hopes that they do.
GLEN JOHNSON (Portsmouth)
One of the few Pompey players not to take a break from playing well while Tony Adams was in charge. Inspirational in relegation fight and fully deserves his place in the England set-up.
Finally understands how to be a Premier League player.
DANNY MURPHY (Fulham)
Continued where he left off last season. His subtlety, intelligence and passing range has helped Fulham exceed expectations this term.
A player who has never really fulfilled his potential but is doing so now under Roy Hodgson's skilful managerial style.
STEPHEN IRELAND (Man City)
Another who has recovered after a poor spell last year. Tenacious, skilful and a genuine goal threat. Has become a jewel among more celebrated names at Eastlands and City should move heaven and earth to keep him.
Not always popular with team-mates because he demands high standards.
ASHLEY YOUNG (Aston Villa)
Needs more consistency but has been as exciting as anyone in the league this season. Can beat his man, cross and score goals.
What more would you - or Martin O'Neill - want from a wide midfielder? Villa will rely on him next season.
FRANK LAMPARD (Chelsea)
Shook off niggling injuries at start of season to play a key role in Chelsea's drive for honours. In top form since Guus Hiddink took over.
Shrugs off criticism and is a fantastic Premier League player, with a real hunger for success.
FERNANDO TORRES (Liverpool)
Gives the Reds a vital attacking edge up front and his one of Liverpool's three top performers. As good as any striker in the world right now.
He will surely demand more trophies from his Liverpool career and the Anfield giants must deliver for him.
WAYNE ROONEY (Man Utd)
Has embraced the team ethic at Old Trafford in recent years. A vital player for United who is fulfilling vast potential as he approaches his peak.
Equally vital for England as Fabio Capello looks to build a side that can win the 2010 World Cup.
BEST DEFENSIVE PARTNERSHIP
Nemanja Vidic/Rio Ferdinand
The Manchester United pair win this award by a street. They broke Chelsea's clean sheet record and were the cornerstone of another season of achievement at Old Trafford.
BEST STRIKE PARTNERSHIP
Fernando Torres/Dirk Kuyt
These two Liverpool strikers have netted 25 goals between them in the Premier League this season without playing all the games. Have shone regularly in big matches.
BEST NEWCOMER
Federico Macheda (Man Utd)
His vital two goals in the run-in stabilised United just when they were looking wobbly. The 17-year-old can look back with pride on his major contribution.
BEST MANAGER
Tony Pulis (Stoke)
Defied all odds this season by not only keeping Stoke in the Premier League, but leading them to a mid-table finish on a transfer budget of less than 16million. Respect.
BEST NO.2
Steve Clarke (West Ham)
Has shown how invaluable he was at Chelsea for all those years. Steadied West Ham's back four and has helped Gianfranco Zola settle into management.
MOST IMPROVED PLAYER
Darren Fletcher (Man Utd)
Has gone from a bit-part player who looked destined for a club in the bottom half of the table to a top-level performer who Fergie picks for big games.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/318843/Check-out-our-Premier-League-team-of-the-season.html
Check out our Premier League team of the season
By AIDAN MAGEE, 21/05/2009
JUSSI JAASKELAINEN (Bolton)
How the Finn has never moved to a big club is a mystery.
His consistency played a massive part in keeping a less than ordinary side up and he's hardly put a foot wrong this season.
PATRICE EVRA (Man Utd)
Everything you would want from a Premier League full-back. Knows when to attack and when to defend and does both to an equally high standard.
Tackles hard, crosses well and plays a vital role in United's strategy.
NEMANJA VIDIC (Man Utd)
Perhaps the main reason for United's extraordinary run of clean sheets in mid-season. Has proved that old fashioned centre-backs are still in vogue.
Hasn't allowed the very occasional mistake to affect his confidence and is getting stronger and stronger.
BREDE HANGELAND (Fulham)
The Norwegian looked a donkey when he arrived in England 18 months ago. Now looks as solid and assured as anyone in the top flight.
Fulham will struggle to hang on to him this summer but it's vital for their hopes that they do.
GLEN JOHNSON (Portsmouth)
One of the few Pompey players not to take a break from playing well while Tony Adams was in charge. Inspirational in relegation fight and fully deserves his place in the England set-up.
Finally understands how to be a Premier League player.
DANNY MURPHY (Fulham)
Continued where he left off last season. His subtlety, intelligence and passing range has helped Fulham exceed expectations this term.
A player who has never really fulfilled his potential but is doing so now under Roy Hodgson's skilful managerial style.
STEPHEN IRELAND (Man City)
Another who has recovered after a poor spell last year. Tenacious, skilful and a genuine goal threat. Has become a jewel among more celebrated names at Eastlands and City should move heaven and earth to keep him.
Not always popular with team-mates because he demands high standards.
ASHLEY YOUNG (Aston Villa)
Needs more consistency but has been as exciting as anyone in the league this season. Can beat his man, cross and score goals.
What more would you - or Martin O'Neill - want from a wide midfielder? Villa will rely on him next season.
FRANK LAMPARD (Chelsea)
Shook off niggling injuries at start of season to play a key role in Chelsea's drive for honours. In top form since Guus Hiddink took over.
Shrugs off criticism and is a fantastic Premier League player, with a real hunger for success.
FERNANDO TORRES (Liverpool)
Gives the Reds a vital attacking edge up front and his one of Liverpool's three top performers. As good as any striker in the world right now.
He will surely demand more trophies from his Liverpool career and the Anfield giants must deliver for him.
WAYNE ROONEY (Man Utd)
Has embraced the team ethic at Old Trafford in recent years. A vital player for United who is fulfilling vast potential as he approaches his peak.
Equally vital for England as Fabio Capello looks to build a side that can win the 2010 World Cup.
BEST DEFENSIVE PARTNERSHIP
Nemanja Vidic/Rio Ferdinand
The Manchester United pair win this award by a street. They broke Chelsea's clean sheet record and were the cornerstone of another season of achievement at Old Trafford.
BEST STRIKE PARTNERSHIP
Fernando Torres/Dirk Kuyt
These two Liverpool strikers have netted 25 goals between them in the Premier League this season without playing all the games. Have shone regularly in big matches.
BEST NEWCOMER
Federico Macheda (Man Utd)
His vital two goals in the run-in stabilised United just when they were looking wobbly. The 17-year-old can look back with pride on his major contribution.
BEST MANAGER
Tony Pulis (Stoke)
Defied all odds this season by not only keeping Stoke in the Premier League, but leading them to a mid-table finish on a transfer budget of less than 16million. Respect.
BEST NO.2
Steve Clarke (West Ham)
Has shown how invaluable he was at Chelsea for all those years. Steadied West Ham's back four and has helped Gianfranco Zola settle into management.
MOST IMPROVED PLAYER
Darren Fletcher (Man Utd)
Has gone from a bit-part player who looked destined for a club in the bottom half of the table to a top-level performer who Fergie picks for big games.
marinersman
Well-Known Member
Is Schwarzer the best keeper in the Premiership this season?
FFC Mariner
Well-Known Member
I reckon Southgate will have a better chance in the CCC than whoever is daft enough to manage Newcastle.
Less players will leave and they have a few good juniors.
Barcodes on the other hand might just do a Leeds unless they can dump their contracted high earners ASAP. Owen is off contract so thats 1 but I believe the others may not have relegation clauses built in.
Less players will leave and they have a few good juniors.
Barcodes on the other hand might just do a Leeds unless they can dump their contracted high earners ASAP. Owen is off contract so thats 1 but I believe the others may not have relegation clauses built in.
tuftman
Well-Known Member
from F365
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,13320_5346723,00.html
Does Oblivion Await For Sorry Toon...?
If someone wanted a neat summary of Newcastle's season, they need not have sat through the previous 37 games, they just had to be at Villa Park on Sunday.
A desperate lack of quality, effort from some but not all, average players deployed out of position, and some tragic slapstick chucked in just for fun.
As turned out, survival was in Newcastle's hands after everyone around them lost, but they couldn't even manage that. To say they dropped into the Championship with a whimper is almost an understatement.
It was a whole season, boiled neatly down to 90 minutes. To figure out exactly what has gone wrong at Newcastle would take more than one blog on a football website, and no doubt reams and reams of newspaper print will be dedicated to exactly that subject over the next few days.
Whatever the reasons, whoever is to blame, the fact remains that if Newcastle had escaped on the final day then it would probably have been an injustice, based on their performances over the season.
It's been said that relegation is actually a good thing, that they will be able to start afresh, to cleanse the poison from the club and rise as a new, stronger side.
The problem is that this assumes everyone will agree and rally behind the cause, that common sense will prevail at a club that is not particularly familiar with the concept.
One suspects that Alan Shearer could possibly create the sort of stability needed at St James's, if only because he will be given time, by supporters, players and owners. However, word is that Shearer will only stay on if he is given reassurances about the club's budget.
Will those reassurances be forthcoming? With a colossal wage bill even by Premier League standards, and no relegation clauses in the contracts of many of those players, where will money be found? Mike Ashley wants out and certainly can't afford to pump oodles of cash in himself. They don't have many saleable assets to raise cash (a point highlighted by Jamie Redknapp's analysis on Sky, when he identified Fabrizio Coloccini as a possible source of income, on the basis that they'd 'paid a lot for him'), and it will be interesting to see how many of the 'best fans in the world' stick with the side in the Championship.
The fear for Newcastle fans will be that they drop again, which is perfectly plausible. If they cut their cloth and bring in cheap alternatives, then they may fail and flounder among the sea of mediocrity in the second tier. Equally, if they gamble and throw money at the problem, financial oblivion awaits.
"There's big changes needed to be made, from top to bottom. Big mistakes have been made" said Shearer on Sunday. He's right, but those changes absolutely have to be the right ones.
I don't think we'll see them back up for a while after reading that
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,13320_5346723,00.html
Does Oblivion Await For Sorry Toon...?
If someone wanted a neat summary of Newcastle's season, they need not have sat through the previous 37 games, they just had to be at Villa Park on Sunday.
A desperate lack of quality, effort from some but not all, average players deployed out of position, and some tragic slapstick chucked in just for fun.
As turned out, survival was in Newcastle's hands after everyone around them lost, but they couldn't even manage that. To say they dropped into the Championship with a whimper is almost an understatement.
It was a whole season, boiled neatly down to 90 minutes. To figure out exactly what has gone wrong at Newcastle would take more than one blog on a football website, and no doubt reams and reams of newspaper print will be dedicated to exactly that subject over the next few days.
Whatever the reasons, whoever is to blame, the fact remains that if Newcastle had escaped on the final day then it would probably have been an injustice, based on their performances over the season.
It's been said that relegation is actually a good thing, that they will be able to start afresh, to cleanse the poison from the club and rise as a new, stronger side.
The problem is that this assumes everyone will agree and rally behind the cause, that common sense will prevail at a club that is not particularly familiar with the concept.
One suspects that Alan Shearer could possibly create the sort of stability needed at St James's, if only because he will be given time, by supporters, players and owners. However, word is that Shearer will only stay on if he is given reassurances about the club's budget.
Will those reassurances be forthcoming? With a colossal wage bill even by Premier League standards, and no relegation clauses in the contracts of many of those players, where will money be found? Mike Ashley wants out and certainly can't afford to pump oodles of cash in himself. They don't have many saleable assets to raise cash (a point highlighted by Jamie Redknapp's analysis on Sky, when he identified Fabrizio Coloccini as a possible source of income, on the basis that they'd 'paid a lot for him'), and it will be interesting to see how many of the 'best fans in the world' stick with the side in the Championship.
The fear for Newcastle fans will be that they drop again, which is perfectly plausible. If they cut their cloth and bring in cheap alternatives, then they may fail and flounder among the sea of mediocrity in the second tier. Equally, if they gamble and throw money at the problem, financial oblivion awaits.
"There's big changes needed to be made, from top to bottom. Big mistakes have been made" said Shearer on Sunday. He's right, but those changes absolutely have to be the right ones.
I don't think we'll see them back up for a while after reading that
FFC Mariner
Well-Known Member
Get Risdale on the phone, he can give them tips
dru
Well-Known Member
Hopefully we mount a serious charge on the Championship title and bounce straight back up, doubt it will be that easy though, playoff may be more reasonable. As FFC said, we at least have a junior program that produces talent capable of doing a job in the premier league so they should be able to do the job in the championship as well.
It still remains to be seen if Southgate has what it takes. fingers crossed and I can't wait to get my championship strip
Is it to much to hope the Geordies do a Leeds?
It still remains to be seen if Southgate has what it takes. fingers crossed and I can't wait to get my championship strip
Is it to much to hope the Geordies do a Leeds?
FFC Mariner
Well-Known Member
Watched the EPL highlights show and the sight of the Geordies misery made my day lol
Arabmariner
Well-Known Member
Unemployed coal miners crying is not a pretty sight lol!!FFC Mariner said:
marinermick
Well-Known Member
Sym said:
tbf, he was pushing shit up a hill
not his fault viduka became fit again
Online statistics
- Members online
- 21
- Guests online
- 254
- Total visitors
- 275
