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Roar v CCM - Grand Final

Gen (MarinerMum)

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Well the girls will be at the game sunday. Claire and Sophia are going. Sophia is flying in at 3pm to get to the game after playing her game again LOLst Marconi.

Like mother like daughters. Am I buying them Bay 313 tickets - is this where the Marinators will be sitting.

Watch out Fish - don't get her off side or just put her next to the Roar supporters and watch the fur fly.
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
I enjoy Tony Tannous writing on football and rate him as arguably the best print football journo in the country... for those that don't know Tony is otherwise know as the ,,,, round ball analysis,,,,,

While I don'r agree with his article today as he predicts a Roar 2 - 1 win ,,, I have copied his Roar article today as it the first GF in-depth analysis I have read in this weeks press...

http://www.theroar.com.au/2011/03/09/grand-final-preview-cream-to-rise-to-the-top/
Grand Final Preview: the cream to rise to the top

he scene was Bluetongue Stadium, a wet Sunday afternoon, on the last weekend of November last year with the Central Coast Mariners taking on the Brisbane Roar. At half time, Graham Arnold had an admission to make: he had got it horribly wrong.

Whether it was a private thought, a whisper in the ear of his assistant Phil Moss, or an open admission in the dressing-room, Arnold put his hand up.

Diverting from his diamond midfield for the first time since he took control, Arnold went into the week 16 match with a 4-2-3-1.

The objective, it seemed, was the sit back and frustrate the Roar. Having spent the past few years under the tutelage of Pim Verbeek, one could understand why he went down that path.

The Roar had been on a 13 game undefeated run, the start of a recording breaking run that now sits at 28, had their confidence flowing on the back of four games in two weeks, so there was enough logic in Arnold’s plan.

No doubt he thought the best way, perhaps the only way, to stifle Ange Postecoglou’s men was to sit deep, congest the midfield and stop them from playing.

Little doubt he was also reflecting on the Roar’s comfortable 2-0 win at Suncorp the first time the sides met a month or so earlier.

But the Mariners’ lack of initiative and negative mind-frame played right into the Brisbane’s hands.

By half time, trailing 3-0 to a Jean Carlos Solorzano brace and a Mitch Nichols goal, it was time to revert to his preferred diamond midfield 4-4-2, so on came Daniel McBreen and Adam Kwasnik for Matt Simon and Mustafa Amini.

While the Mariners lost the second half due to two late Roar goals, it was much more even contest as they at least had a go.

Since then, the sides have met three times, and it’s been a far more even contest every time, with two games drawn.

Indeed, three time during those games the Mariners have led, only to be pegged back late by a team that refuses to accept defeat.

Essentially, what Arnold has realised over time is that there is no point dropping 10 men behind the ball against the Roar.

If you do that, Postecoglou’s men pick up every loose ball and start their build up again, playing out from the back with no pressure, moving the ball quickly, playing their diagonal balls, moving, and eventually breaking teams down.

What the Mariners have down well of late against Brisbane is play a little higher in defence, push on in midfield and attack, and then utilise the wide areas on the counter-attack, with Patricio Perez particularly clever in running off Eric Paartalu and finding some space out wide.

In truth, the Mariners haven’t always used this space as effectively and efficiently as they might have.

For starters, they haven’t always been as ruthless as they should have in the final third, Perez often forced to hold up the ball to wait for team-mates to catch up.

This has partly been due to the Roar’s defensive transition. It’s not the best part of their game, but nor should it be under-estimated. It will likely be a big focus for Postecoglou this week.

For the Mariners to have any chance, they will need to take their chances in forward transition, and swiftly. If Perez’s hammy doesn’t respond in time, Amini’s role in carrying the Mariners forward becomes crucial.

If they can’t make anything of the rapid forward thrusts, winning free-kicks in and around the box will key. Defending them isn’t a Roar forte.

For all their attack, Postecoglou will be focussing on the detail in defence.

The key at the other end will be whether they can grab an early goal. While Brisbane have made a habit of coming from behind, perhaps too often for the manager’s liking, there’s no doubt the pressure will mount if they go behind in the decider.

Much was made of the way the Mariners took it to them in the second leg of the major semi final, but if Kosta Barbarouses had converted either of his excellent one-on-one chances in the first quarter of the match, the tie would have been over.

Barbarouses has improved his finishing no-end throughout the season, but he and Solorzano will have to be at their ruthless best in the early going.

With Thomas Broich proving that he can raise his game when his team needed it most on the second half of the second leg, the Mariners back four is likely to be hard pressed dealing with Brisbane’s potent front three.

While you should never ignore the claims of the Mariners, as likely a team as any to spoil the party, I’m predicting the cream will rise to the top and that the Brisbane Roar will complete the Premiership-Championship double with a 2-0 win, with Solorzano and Broich bagging the goals.

It would be a repeat of the Brisbane Strikers’s winning scoreline in the NSL grand final win over Sydney United 14 years ago, but, more than that, it would be a fitting reward for what has been a truly outstanding season.
 

LFCMariners

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Will be there from 8:30am Saturday... breakfast beer?


Done, done and done. Got to meet a mate at the airport at 5:30, so can't fully take the plunge until afterwards, but a couple of morning brews on South Bank might be just the ticket!
 

Wombat

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I`m pleased so many Mariners fans are going to the tremendous effort to travel to Brisbane to watch thier team get spanked like the preverbial ass.

It`ll be fun witnessing the disapointment as Roar take the dunny seat with ease.

Makes me want to squeeze in to stinky bay 313.

Roar 3 marinators blot.

Blot


Reggie,

Whats all this about you spanking Donkey's arses?? Leaving your private life out of it for a second I reckon a 2.1 win to the Mariners. We have dominated you the last three times we have played you but our finishing let you off the hook each time (we still put 5 past you).
There will be no mistakes this time and its hard to see you beating us. If we click into gear you are gone.

COME ON YOU YELLOWS!!
 

typool

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http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/foxsportscomau-previews-a-league-grand-final-between-brisbane-roar-and-central-coast-mariners/story-e6frf4gl-1226018725484


Foxsports.com.au previews A-League grand final between Brisbane Roar and Central Coast Mariners
Crucial role ... but Erik Paartalu knows how to relax before the big game. Source: News Limited
Foxsports.com.au brings you everything you need to know about the A-League grand final between Brisbane Roar and Central Coast Mariners.
WHAT, WHERE & WHEN
A-League grand final, Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane, Sunday, 5pm (EDT), with live and exclusive coverage on Fox Sports.
FORM GUIDE
Brisbane Roar - DWWWW; Central Coast Mariners - WDLWW
NEXT STEP
Both the Roar and the Mariners will represent the A-League in the 2012 AFC Asian Champions League.
TALE OF THE TAPE
These top two sides have played each other five times (including the finals series) this season, resulting in three wins for Brisbane Roar and two draws. The rivalry between them opened on October 20 at Suncorp Stadium where Brisbane were able to stake their early claim on the Mariners with a 2-0 win. Central Coast committed an 13 fouls in the game, receiving five yellow cards in the process. In late November at Bluetongue Stadium, things got worse for the Mariners, suffering a 5-1 loss. They found themselves 3-0 down at the 24-minute mark before Adam Kwasnik got one back for the Mariners, but it wasn't enough as Reinaldo slotted the fourth and an Alex Wilkinson own goal completed the rout.
The sides met again on January 12, and it was a more promising result for the Mariners. At 2-1 up, the Mariners seemed to hold control of the game before squandering their lead, and the advantage of a 10-man Roar side, to draw the match 3-3 at Bluetongue Stadium.
In the first leg of their major semi-final, the Roar sent out a clear message. Battling it out at Bluetongue Stadium once more, Roar took out the match 2-0, ensuring important away-goals ahead of the second leg at home in Brisbane.
The Mariners again gave Roar a scare in the second leg of their major semi-final at Suncorp Stadium before the home side battled back to secure a 2-2 draw. A Roar own-goal in the 39th minute opened the Mariners account and Oliver Bozanic added a wonderful second one minute later. Thomas Broich got one back for the Roar in the 63rd minute before an injury-time goal from Henrique secured the draw.

STATS AMAZING: Did you know that Thomas Broich was clearly the most fouled player in the A-League? Broich was fouled 95 times during the season - 20 more than Gold Coast's Zenon Caravella. Broich also leads the balls into box statistical category from Central Coast midfielders Michael McGlinchey and Oliver Bozanic.
If Mariners striker Matt Simon recovers from injury, he will be playing his 100th A-League game.
Central Coast Mariners haven't beaten Brisbane Roar since October 2009.
They have also lost both of their previous grand finals. In 2005-06, they were beaten 1-0 by Sydney and two years later the same fate - and scoreline - awaited them against Newcastle Jets.

KEY MATCH-UPS:

Matt McKay v Rostyn Griffiths
The key men in the midfield. McKay possesses great technical qualities and organisational skills while Griffiths has shown great improvement this year and his fitness and aerial power is crucial in the middle of the park for the Mariners. The player that can assert themselves on the game and influence those around them more will almost certainly ensure their team gets on top in midfield. If Griffiths can shut down the creative influence of McKay and provide his side with some drive from midfield, the Mariners are a show.
Erik Paartalu v Patricio Perez/Mustafa Amini
Paartalu's importantce in the 'hole' in front of the back four has been crucial to the Roar's success. Dropping deep and picking up balls from the back four, and allowing the Roar to play out from the back, has been a key ingredient in the Roar's Barcelona-esque style of football. In addition, Paartalu, like all good holding midfielders, has regularly quelled the influence of attacking midfielders. With Patricio Perez unlikely to start, Mustafa Amini is likely to get the job as creator in the Mariners midfield. With maturity beyond his years, Amini may be the ace in Arnold's pack with his flair, pace and youthful exuberance, and Paartalu would need to show him the same respect. An alternative to Amini may be in the form of John Hutchinson. His grit, determination and no-nonsense approach may well rattle the Roars defence.
Kosta Barbarouses v Mariners defence
Barbarouses is undoubtedly one of the most improved players in the A-League. Plucked from Wellington Phoenix, Postecoglou has given Barbarouses the confidence to express himself and he has repaid this faith in goals. The Mariners defence of Wilkinson, Zwaanswijk, Rose and Boijc will need to be on their toes as Barbarouses will often play right on the shoulder of the central defenders but can drift wide and regularly makes clever runs utilising his superior pace. The Mariners defence will need to be alert and if playing a high line will need to be expertly organised.

TALK THE TALK:
Graham Arnold on status of Patricio Perez:
"He's getting treatment at the moment and we'll have a look at him later in the week," Arnold said on Tuesday. "Thankfully we've got a long week so for the first couple of days it's more about treatment, doing some work in the gym and we'll see how he is at the end of the week."
Ange Postecoglou on the importance of goalkeeper Michael Theoklitos:
“A key part to the success of any team is your goalkeeper. I knew Michael from Melbourne and he had a tough time at Norwich, but speaking to him he was super keen to come back into the A-League and play for us, and that's exactly what we wanted," he said. “He's been fantastic for us and I think he has even improved as a goalkeeper. He's gone up another level and is more experienced and I think the tough time he went through at Norwich (in England) has made him a stronger person. “There have been times in games this season where he has kept us in it.”

MATCH ODDS:
Brisbane Roar $1.72; Central Coast Mariners $4.85; Draw $3.35 ( TAB Sportsbet; 9/3).
EXPERT OPINION: Robbie Slater.
"It's a difficult one to predict. If you look at it on stats alone then Brisbane stand out as favourites. But Central Coast in the second leg of the major semi-final got very close. Whether they are close enough to win the grand final, given factors like the game is at Suncorp Stadium and it’s hopefully going to be a full house, I’m not sure. I think it’s definitely going to be tight.”

Roar player to watch: “Erik Paartalu doesn't get the praise of someone like a Broich, Solarzano or McKay but he is a real key to the grand final. He is the only Roar midfielder who doesn't rotate. He sits in the middle and links everything up. Central Coast, in that second leg at Suncorp, really pushed onto Paartulu through Patricio Perez and that really upset Brisbane.”

Mariners player to watch: "It looks as though they will be without Perez for the match but when Mustafa Amini came on during the preliminary final against Gold Coast United last weekend he was fantastic. There could be even an argument that he changed the game somewhat. But starting a grand final for a 17-year-old is a big thing. He is the key player for the Mariners given his position and it’s a big responsibility on a kid but he has proven to be excellent every time he has played this season. Some times with young players you don't have any fear.”

Slater's verdict: I think this is headed to penalties. There will be goals in it but it will go to penalties. Central Coast to win.
 

typool

Well-Known Member
TY's HOT TIPS
GF keyman for ROAR is Broich.. Griffo needs to shut him down as soon as he gets on the ball, give him space and he will find the feet of Kosta and co
GF key man for CCM is Wee Mac .. when Wee mac is on fire on the wing i feel that we have more ammunition in our Arsenal with his pace and crosses for our big 3 up front

Mariners 2-1
 

style_cafe

Well-Known Member
The midfield & defence pick themselves.

So who would you start up front?
It`s a tough decision:-
McBreen :slow,lazy with low scoring rate but favoured by Arnie
Kwas :has speed but very erratic, at his best very good but best is rarely seen
Matty :hard working,in your face striker,can score when you least expect it
Ibini :inexperienced young talent,fast but yet to be proven


As much as I`ve panned McBreen for his lacklustre performances this year I think i`d start him with Matty up front.

Kwas is a much better impact player than McBreen & more likely to score when he comes off the bench.

Ibini maybe in the last 10 for experience if the situation warrants it.

In over 40years of being involved in football I`ve never been so consumed by the expectation of a game as I have with the GF.

I`ve watched the Socceroos,England,Man U.,AC Milan etc. but I`m just so looking forward to being at Suncorp cheering on "the little Club that could" & hoping like hell that we "rain on Brisbane`s parade".

Go you good things!!!!!!!!
 

universalmind

Well-Known Member
Did someone just tip us?

He also tipped us in season 3. He tipped Adam Kwasnik to be the key player for us.....he had a quite game, but TBH he played out of position.

I'm tipping Kwasnik to have the game of his career this year. I think i will be 1-1 after full time, and 2-1 to us after extra time.
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
The guy below says Mariners ... hope he is right...

http://www.ubisoft.biz/blogimage/job_interview_fortune_teller.jpg
 

kab08

New Member
Where are people watching the game in Sydney?!

I dont know of an any screens for under 18s...

I live in Sydney and can't get up to Brisbane or Gosford on Sunday afternoon.

I would head to Cheers on George Street cause that's about the most central spot I know where I can be pretty sure the game will be on. But my brother who is 17 wouldn't be allowed in...
Usually my family and I are forced to watch them illegally online but for the Grand Final I want to be with other CCM fans!!

Let's paint Sydney Blue and Yellow, as the Mariners are the PRIDE OF NSW!!
 

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