Rnd 22: CCM v Melb.Victory

[style_cafe]

I agree Where on earth does the Ahole league get these turds of refs these sorry mfs wouldn't last five minutes in any other international games, only in Australia. I am being given cause to follow another code never part with another cent where the Ahole League is the recipient and say goodeffing bye you corrupt mongrel bastards. This league is banked by with turds for referees and their lines should be cleaned with ample applications of Draino.

From where I was sitting there was at least 5 off-sides that were ntt called by the liney on the eastern side,including the second goal which was a metre off-side.
As Garth said, he kept putting his head down when he took off & was far too slow for this league.
Although his major problem was seeing that the closest player to him (Ingham) when he was off-side.
For mine probably one of the worst refereeing & assistant perfomances Iv`e seen since Mathew Breeze soiled our pitch.

 

[Rowdy]

Watching on Fox, I remember hearing on one occasion Andy Harper saying that the linesman 'has failed to keep pace with the action on the pitch' for him to be able to make a correct decision or NOT.

 

[Wombat]

Recky and co were joking about the Refs in Indian Super League being better than the clowns we have to put up with!

 

[BrisRecky]

Recky and co were joking about the Refs in Indian Super League being better than the clowns we have to put up with!

That jumped up, nitwit, jackoff wouldn't be cutting the oranges for the Indian Superannuation League refs...well, I honestly thought they'd put 6 or 7 on us...and they would of if they hadnt skyed the other 11 shots on goal....and what was wrong with Bay 16, they didnt make a peep till 60 minutes, did i miss a "We are protesting" memo....I tweeted walmsley during the week and suggested he should have Roy and Bingaz on at the same time, clearly my council means jack shit

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

From where I was sitting there was at least 5 off-sides that were ntt called by the liney on the eastern side,including the second goal which was a metre off-side.
As Garth said, he kept putting his head down when he took off & was far too slow for this league.
Although his major problem was seeing that the closest player to him (Ingham) when he was off-side.
For mine probably one of the worst refereeing & assistant perfomances Iv`e seen since Mathew Breeze soiled our pitch.

The second goal wasn't offside, he was behind the ball. Watching on TV, the Western side AR was the one letting questionable runs go through - the eastern incorrectly pulled up MV once or twice.

Personally I disagree with the comments on the refereeing, thought he did well, was pretty consistent with cards. There's always going to be a few items of disagreement - no such thing as a flawless performance. He missed a cheap shot on Roy late in the match. Some teams may focus cheap shots on Roy to try and get him to blow up again. Need to do something about our red cards, it's beyond a joke. That was such a stupid tackle.

MV should have beaten us 4-0 - the scoreline flattered us. Our defence is still a joke, they had that many great chances. MV's shooting was almost as bad as ours. Our attack was better having our players back, but I feel like when you can't punch through, experienced attackers can draw defenders out of position, or set up a trap to strike late in the match. We're lacking the experience to do that so we're just trying to get the ball up there - which, against a team with tight defence, simply isn't enough. but that's probably a mix of experience and confidence. but 1 shot on target in approx. 190 minutes is absolutely pathetic. Surely that has to be another HAL record.

Around the 75th minute, was the whole stadium banging on the advertising signs on the front row? Or did it just sound loud because it was near a crowd mic?

 

[nebakke]

The second goal wasn't offside, he was behind the ball. Watching on TV, the Western side AR was the one letting questionable runs go through - the eastern incorrectly pulled up MV once or twice.

Sorry Cap'n, just tryin' to understand your analysis - in part because I disagree, but I'll get to that - who was behind the ball? - I at least, am suggesting that the offside occurs before the goal, not on FBK

At the very least, I thought Archie was offside, pulling Posco with him in the middle - I thought the new rules said that meant that he was offside for interfering?

I agree that the linesman on the Western side was by far the worst though, I think he made two calls on his own, one of them correct the other dodgy as heck - the rest he waited for the ref every time.

I think what you heard at the 75th minute was the resurgence, there was a little while there when the crowd tried to drive the team forward, real hard...

 

[soccer mad]

The game was lost before kick off ,I was watching both teams prep before the game and contrast was vast even the drills and for me thats coaching and discipline . The structure of drills and attitude are miles apart . Not to mention melbourne were on the pitch 10min earlier in warm up. I was prepared to eat humble pie this year under the clubs constraints, but I have seen no improvement in our sqad occasionally some put thier hands up and puts in a good shift . I don't mind Uskok hed rather play the ball short and play out defense than play long ball to now where. I could go on as the rest of us just need to air the frustration .

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

The new offside rules....those are just making it clear that it's offside if you attempt to play the ball, or where an opponent is delayed, hindered or prevented from playing the ball by an offside player.

So drawing a defender out of position? Not really - if it was then the flag would be going up as soon as a player steps past that defensive line, because the defenders are constantly marking players in an offside position. It's more to cover scenarios where, say, the attacking team parks a striker in an offside position near the goal posts at a free kick, meaning the keeper can't decide whether to rush that player if the ball goes near him or wait on his line, where the keeper is forced to be in 2 minds. That's the sort of scenario it's looking at.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2uvfiv7i...WO_illustrative examples_below PGMOL.pdf?dl=0

The IFAB page has a lot of examples.

As for the Western side AR - given that Fox Sports didn't replay any of the potential offsides they could just have been ones where it looked offside because I didn't have the in-line view and maybe they weren't.

I know as an AR, one thing you're often trained to do is to use a discrete signal (such as the flag slightly out from your body but still pointing down) to communicate your 'suggestion' to the referee, allowing the referee to make the final decision then you mirror it - this prevents the frustrating situation where both the AR and ref signal in opposite directions. Not saying this is necessarily what happened, couldn't tell on TV

The resurgence in crowd support gave me goosebumps, I was sitting there thinking 'this is what it really means to be a CCM supporter. NEVER SAY DIE!!!'. It was absolutely fantastic to hear, it's just a shame there wasn't as much heart on the field as there was in the crowd - way, way too much standing back and ball watching.

But to hear that late match resurgence across the entire park, when we're 1-0 down in a season where any amount of hope has become sheer folly.....much respect to the crowd. Absolutely sensational.

 

[Wombat]

That jumped up, nitwit, jackoff wouldn't be cutting the oranges for the Indian Superannuation League refs...well, I honestly thought they'd put 6 or 7 on us...and they would of if they hadnt skyed the other 11 shots on goal....and what was wrong with Bay 16, they didnt make a peep till 60 minutes, did i miss a "We are protesting" memo....I tweeted walmsley during the week and suggested he should have Roy and Bingaz on at the same time, clearly my council means jack shit

I wouldnt listen to you Recky..lol......apart from you did tip me the Ugly Dutch meathead for Manyoo would be a failure

 

[Wombat]

The new offside rules....those are just making it clear that it's offside if you attempt to play the ball, or where an opponent is delayed, hindered or prevented from playing the ball by an offside player.

So drawing a defender out of position? Not really - if it was then the flag would be going up as soon as a player steps past that defensive line, because the defenders are constantly marking players in an offside position. It's more to cover scenarios where, say, the attacking team parks a striker in an offside position near the goal posts at a free kick, meaning the keeper can't decide whether to rush that player if the ball goes near him or wait on his line, where the keeper is forced to be in 2 minds. That's the sort of scenario it's looking at.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2uvfiv7i4c96faz/AADgmzCDFVhWhqTCZKorvJi8a/IFAB additional guidance_IWO_illustrative examples_below PGMOL.pdf?dl=0

The IFAB page has a lot of examples.

As for the Western side AR - given that Fox Sports didn't replay any of the potential offsides they could just have been ones where it looked offside because I didn't have the in-line view and maybe they weren't.

I know as an AR, one thing you're often trained to do is to use a discrete signal (such as the flag slightly out from your body but still pointing down) to communicate your 'suggestion' to the referee, allowing the referee to make the final decision then you mirror it - this prevents the frustrating situation where both the AR and ref signal in opposite directions. Not saying this is necessarily what happened, couldn't tell on TV

The resurgence in crowd support gave me goosebumps, I was sitting there thinking 'this is what it really means to be a CCM supporter. NEVER SAY DIE!!!'. It was absolutely fantastic to hear, it's just a shame there wasn't as much heart on the field as there was in the crowd - way, way too much standing back and ball watching.

But to hear that late match resurgence across the entire park, when we're 1-0 down in a season where any amount of hope has become sheer folly.....much respect to the crowd. Absolutely sensational.

It was great Bay 16 was almost silent....then the big fella in the cap stepped up and roused everyone and then they made some noise!
before that it was the band and 6 kids singing.

 

[FFC Mariner]

It was great Bay 16 was almost silent....then the big fella in the cap stepped up and roused everyone and then they made some noise!
before that it was the band and 6 kids singing.

The capo got kidnapped until about 80 mins

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

It was great Bay 16 was almost silent....then the big fella in the cap stepped up and roused everyone and then they made some noise!
before that it was the band and 6 kids singing.

Great to hear.

Bay 16 looked very sparse, sadly.....

 

[style_cafe]

The second goal wasn't offside, he was behind the ball. Watching on TV, the Western side AR was the one letting questionable runs go through - the eastern incorrectly pulled up MV once or twice.

Personally I disagree with the comments on the refereeing, thought he did well, was pretty consistent with cards. There's always going to be a few items of disagreement - no such thing as a flawless performance. He missed a cheap shot on Roy late in the match. Some teams may focus cheap shots on Roy to try and get him to blow up again. Need to do something about our red cards, it's beyond a joke. That was such a stupid tackle.

MV should have beaten us 4-0 - the scoreline flattered us. Our defence is still a joke, they had that many great chances. MV's shooting was almost as bad as ours. Our attack was better having our players back, but I feel like when you can't punch through, experienced attackers can draw defenders out of position, or set up a trap to strike late in the match. We're lacking the experience to do that so we're just trying to get the ball up there - which, against a team with tight defence, simply isn't enough. but that's probably a mix of experience and confidence. but 1 shot on target in approx. 190 minutes is absolutely pathetic. Surely that has to be another HAL record.

Around the 75th minute, was the whole stadium banging on the advertising signs on the front row? Or did it just sound loud because it was near a crowd mic?

I`ve just watched the replay half a dozen times from a camera on the western side.
It clearly shows the ball being played from inside the Victory half into the path of Ingham,who was about a metre goalside of our two nearest defenders.
However, in the middle of the park Ascroft is keeping Ingham onside.
Therefore, it was a legitimate goal & I put my hand up & say "I was wrong" & apologise to the linesman for that occasion.

Just wondering though if the MRP had a look at the Roy/ Delpierre incident.

I also think we hit a new low vs Victory when our active "support" sang the "WE LOSE ALL THE TIME"chant.
Whilst it was funny when other teams sing it.It was definitely disturbing to hear our supporters voice that chant.
Very degrading for the players too, I`d imagine.

 

[FFC Mariner]

No?

Just a guess

 

[sydmariner]

Great to hear.

Bay 16 looked very sparse, sadly.....

It was, not even the band could liven it up.

 

[sydmariner]

I`ve just watched the replay half a dozen times from a camera on the western side.
It clearly shows the ball being played from inside the Victory half into the path of Ingham,who was about a metre goalside of our two nearest defenders.
However, in the middle of the park Ascroft is keeping Ingham onside.
Therefore, it was a legitimate goal & I put my hand up & say "I was wrong" & apologise to the linesman for that occasion.

Just wondering though if the MRP had a look at the Roy/ Delpierre incident.

I also think we hit a new low vs Victory when our active "support" sang the "WE LOSE ALL THE TIME"chant.
Whilst it was funny when other teams sing it.It was definitely disturbing to hear our supporters voice that chant.
Very degrading for the players too, I`d imagine.

We sing it nearly every week

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Just wondering though if the MRP had a look at the Roy/ Delpierre incident.

.

Appreciate the response on the offside, good to know
What was the Roy/Delpierre incident?

 

[Wombat]

Gallows humour

 

[sydmariner]

How the f**k is it that izzNO made this weeks team of the week.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

I guess that means no one else made two good saves?