RD 4 Mariners V Sydney FC

[Wombat]

We looked much better organised.
I would have started Austin instead of Fitzy.
Posco was excellent and McGing looks like he will develop into a top player. Rose has to start at LB.
Monty was fantastic as was Fab.
Roys workrate was incredible and the finish was good.

L.Rose improved as the game went on and looks like a good player.

Monty 3
Fab 2
Paddy, Posco and McGing 1pt.

Well done to Tony.

 

[shipwreck]

Tweaking is almost complete, I'm really glad to see that we have phased out borderline players like Trifiro and Sim, back four seems settled as discussed above, sorry Neill but we have shipped far too many goals down the left when u have been on.

Next week's midfield I suspect will be the same with Austin replacing Fitzy from the start and maybe Trifiro on the bench.

 

[true believer]

We looked much better organised.
I would have started Austin instead of Fitzy.
Posco was excellent and McGing looks like he will develop into a top player. Rose has to start at LB.
Monty was fantastic as was Fab.
Roys workrate was incredible and the finish was good.

L.Rose improved as the game went on and looks like a good player.

Monty 3
Fab 2
Paddy, Posco and McGing 1pt.

Well done to Tony.

I think fitzy was best on the park when the refs atrocity was committed .
had we had a competent ref I think Austin would have finish Sydney off .

tony was laughing and keeping his boys up . while Arnold had his head in his hands,
sooking after being hand a scandalous opportunity .

hats off to tony ,it'll turn champ .

 

[FFC Mariner]

I reckon TW/Hutch have 3 or 4 games before fingers start pointing.

This is football. Its about results. All of the hype and bullshit is simply to cover up that we have players gifted generous contracts by Moss (thereby hogging our under the cap budget) who arent Aleague standard.

Until the deadwood can be moved out, there isnt much he can do as our esteemed owner wont give him the resources to be competitive.

The deathly silence that fell over the mariners faithful when Matty scored was telling. The murmerings of discontent around us were quiet, but they were there.

 

[BrisRecky]

that ref yesterday has history with us and stupid decisions...thought i recognised the moron
http://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...riners-city-draw/story-e6frf4gl-1227126211501

 

[Forum Phoenix]

It really is as simple as that he almost certainly won SFC the game with what is clearly a wrong decision. Worse, that decision is about as easy as it gets. (Though I just heard Harper give Brenton Speed a hard time who somehow managed to think it wasn't a penalty. ) Madness that can only realistically leave you interpreting it as rampant bias.

Losses lead to coaches losing their jobs, loss of income/gate etc for home games... The refs have to be accountable. If the table were turned... it would be a big deal atm.

Meanwhile, I think of the Perez disgrace and all the times they clearly get the referees support and remember why I hate SFC far more than anyone else.

But I thought we were terrific. To date only one team I'm sure is currently better than us. (Roar) MV I'm unsure as yet.

 

[Big Al]

Much better defensive unit and effort.
That would be my preferred back 4.
Posco mate you should be up to A League fitness by now. These fatigue injuries are killing you and us. Definitely better than Ascroft.

Rosey had quite a few poor touches. Was definitely rusty, but we know he will be better in a couple of weeks.

McGing was a beast in first half. As he was down the other end 2nd half can't really comment on that.

Monty was awesome and looked cooked after game. Gave his guts as always does. Had to laugh yellow cards every where, yet Monty didn't get one. First game this year. We were on course to loose him every 5 games or what ever the yellow limit is.

Fab was great 1st half but second stopped trying to go past his man and tried his ronaldo shit of running and jocking with ball between his legs. All it does is get stuck between his feet and defence doesn't need to worry about his pace. Then the help comes back and cuts him off. Be more aggressive and less fancy. Take them on son they can't stop you.

Roy works his arse off but missed penalty in the cup and the one on one. I'm worried about his composure. He was getting dominated in the air in the 2nd half by the SFC back two. I think Walmsly should have gone to Heff when lost Fitzy after about 65-70 min mark to hold the ball up.

Has anyone noticed we have gone all Barcelona on free kicks and crosses and just aren't bothering. Conceding we are to small we just go a quick short pass. I'd like to get a glimpse of Heff and Austin at the same time please.

What was the go with booing Simon? I didn't agree. Was just because he was in sky blue or just lots and lots of sheep? Seemed to be lead very strongly from the west side. Wasn't surprised one bit to see him score. Actually thought he was going to get Posco sent off as he is a master of the hold and Posco doesn't back down and was just as aggressive and the mood the ref was in, had Posco not got hurt I had him down for definite 2nd yellow.

I was very happy with the effort of the boys and gave it their all even with 10 just ran out of puff. Much better than the dribble coughed up under Moss even if the score is similar.

 

[Big Al]

It really is as simple as that he almost certainly won SFC the game with what is clearly a wrong decision. Worse, that decision is about as easy as it gets. (Though I just heard Harper give Brenton Speed a hard time who somehow managed to think it wasn't a penalty. ) Madness that can only realistically leave you interpreting it as rampant bias.

Losses lead to coaches losing their jobs, loss of income/gate etc for home games... The refs have to be accountable. If the table were turned... it would be a big deal atm.

Meanwhile, I think of the Perez disgrace and all the times they clearly get the referees support and remember why I hate SFC far more than anyone else.

But I though we were terrific. To date only one team I'm sure is currently better than us. (Roar) MV I'm unsure as yet.

Last night after Roar game they said Ref reckoned he got ball. Bossa response was year after Roy was a couple feet in the air.

 

[Gratis]

now that my anger has simmered down...somewhat...

honestly we were very very good and horrendous refereeing aside I'm certain we'd have won that.
the plan was clearly to hammer hammer hammer then put Austin on and rip 'em a new one. and we were on track to do it. the effort playing 60mins with 10 men - and looking like they could win it still too - was to be proud of.
defence was much much better, the tweaks and balances are coming together. we are going to flog a few teams that aren't on their game this season.

that game hurt (we all know the reasons) and took me 24 hours for the fog to begin to lift. now it has started to I'm very happy with our progression. great games for just about everyone in yellow. special mention to Izzo who I really thought took 2 steps forward last night and has the potential to be excellent with more experience and confidence.

Monty is up to 4 yellows already - one more and it's a one match suspension. we may very well lose that game.

Wellington next, we've every reason to feel positive about our chances. shame no Fitzy - he's very much beginning to repay my faith. I rate him and his best is clearly on it's way.

 

[Gratis]

I'll be very happy to be wrong about Monty's yellow card - he didn't get one then?

 

[Big Al]

Red cards: Fitzgerald 42’

Yellow cards: O’Neill 21’, Holosko 25’, Fitzgerald 40’, Fitzgerald 42’, Poscoliero 45+2’, Grant 60’, Neill 68’

 

[Wombat]

now that my anger has simmered down...somewhat...

honestly we were very very good and horrendous refereeing aside I'm certain we'd have won that.
the plan was clearly to hammer hammer hammer then put Austin on and rip 'em a new one. and we were on track to do it. the effort playing 60mins with 10 men - and looking like they could win it still too - was to be proud of.
defence was much much better, the tweaks and balances are coming together. we are going to flog a few teams that aren't on their game this season.

that game hurt (we all know the reasons) and took me 24 hours for the fog to begin to lift. now it has started to I'm very happy with our progression. great games for just about everyone in yellow. special mention to Izzo who I really thought took 2 steps forward last night and has the potential to be excellent with more experience and confidence.

Monty is up to 4 yellows already - one more and it's a one match suspension. we may very well lose that game.

Wellington next, we've every reason to feel positive about our chances. shame no Fitzy - he's very much beginning to repay my faith. I rate him and his best is clearly on it's way.

I think Fitzy being suspended may be a blessing. I don't like him as starting AM and think Austin may be a better winger.

He is not a bad player but his poor passing and poor finishing frustrate me.

He is lively and think he would be great coming on for Austin or Caceras around the 70 min mark.

 

[bikinigirl]

. for a brief critique i will put the refereeing aside. being on the east side we always get quite a few deep south gosford supporters around us ... and they were surprisingly quiet which says something

. for me our first goal conceded had shades of the V1 grand final about it but the immediate response was exactly what we needed

. i agree with a few of the above comments ... considering how long we were 10 versus 12 men - we were still in it until late. oddly losing fitzy early didn't cruel our chances ... it was losing posco that killed us

. i have resisted the criticisms of neill until now ... because i have never really been sure what his instructions had been. but the second goal was down to him - he was just not fast enough to respond and/or didn't read the play. considering how well the other boys stayed switched on it was really disappointing - he had been on long enough to be 'in the game' but not long enough to be knackered

... and unfortunately it just made the third inevitable

. some other positives:

• we did stay in it until really late despite the odds
• we were still positive
• the back was far more solid (not having one of your CBs - Ascroft - playing in the midfield would have helped too)
• the inverted midfield also added to the defensive effort without taking too much away from the attacking philosophy - i think rose the younger's passing helped there
• we finally picked out two of roy's runs without trying to hit an easily defended cross - resulting in one wild miss and one goal

 

[style_cafe]

A much improved effort defensively meant we were not chasing to get back into the game.
Rosey starting helped but he is seriously underdone for fitness & at times looked like a draught horse thumping up the field.
The back four though worked hard & although very fortunate on occasions they remained composed for most of the game.
Monty was courageous in his efforts & never stopped running.
I thought Caceres was going really well & was surprised he was subbed.
It didn`t surprise me that Fab slowed in the second half. He was continually hacked for the first 60mins.
The jury is still out on Roy he positioned nicely for his goal (well done Fab) but should have done better before the no penalty incident.
Fitzy`s send off just shows that stupid yellow cards can be tragic & this most certainly added to the loss.
Izzo looks to be the goods but his distribution needs a lot of work.
Overall though, I thought
a) the boys did well under trying circumstances
b) the refereeing was disgraceful as was the linesman on the no penalty decision
c) Matt Simon didn`t deserve the boos but showed real class by not celebrating his goals

 

[localpom]

Disappointing to say the least. Hard not to argue with Fitzy's sending off but if the ref had given the earlier penalty then that probably wouldn't have happened. These decisions changed the game and it was always going to be hard. Having said that we look to be getting better every week and think we have a small group of players that have the potential to grow into a very good football team. Izzo looks very good, apart from a couple of distribution errors. I am really liking the Posco/McGing CB pairing. McGing looks very assured and we always seem to struggle when Posco isn't there. Roys runs are been read better now and he got away to have 2 one on ones with the keeper, on a better day we would have got 2 goals out of that. We simply can't keep losing well though....we need a good win this weekend.

 

[dibo]

A much improved effort defensively meant we were not chasing to get back into the game.
Matt Simon didn`t deserve the boos but showed real class by not celebrating his goals

Certainly looked like a celebration to me. He didn't run to the cove, but he was 'throwing shakas' and cheering with his new teammates from where I was sitting.

 

[true believer]

Disappointing to say the least. Hard not to argue with Fitzy's sending off

it's easy to argue against the sending off as the first yellow card was issued for simulation
when not going for goal . later it seems contact was made .
the incompetence of the stooge wearing the black shirt is the only issue .

 

[dibo]

I didn't see the first yellow, but I saw the second and it was a yellow every day of the week. Whether the ref erred on the first or not, once you have one against your name to make the challenge he did is f**king lunacy.

 

[localpom]

it's easy to argue against the sending off as the first yellow card was issued for simulation
when not going for goal . later it seems contact was made .
the incompetence of the stooge wearing the black shirt is the only issue .

Haven't seen replays of the simulation, it would be very un-Fitzy like to dive, but the 2nd yellow was clumsy. He will learn.

 

[true believer]

indeed arnolds class less chest thumping spray at the mariners bench.
was more to deflect from the criminal circumstances his over rated side
were handed victory .