R5 - Mariners v Roar: Return of the Mc

[Wombat]

Terrible.....

We were so disorganised. Seems like the players need to be introduced to each other again. So many missed passes and constant turnovers. We just couldn't hold the ball.

Much like Vicmariner I'm getting concerned that we may be in for a poor season. Signs haven't been good for the last few games. Having said that I suppose we were still in the match till the end.

Williams was horrible (as usual). Oh, and by the way, HANDBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We weren't in the game at all. Lucky not to lose 3.0.

 

[gull]

It was 0-0 until 2 minutes from the end. That is why we were still in the game.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

To who?

Too much sugar coating on this site.

Terrible start to the season and time for some harsh words before we end up like Scum.

Remember we nearly lost 2 nil to the two worst sides in the comp.

Hutch, I thought he was rubbish.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

Missing Patrick no doubt. But seriously missing Bernie's attacking.

But there is hope, I hear Kwassy had a run with the youth.

 

[MagpieMariner]

Who the hell was supposed to be watching Yeboah? Could have driven a B=double between him and the nearest defender. Thank heavens Berisha & Miller were out, could have been very nasty.
I think we better get used to Reddy.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Hutch's worst game for 3 years. Just horrible

 

[FFC Mariner]

Missing Patrick no doubt. But seriously missing Bernie's attacking.

But there is hope, I hear Kwassy had a run with the youth.

Reckons he might be ready to play off the bench in 2 weeks

 

[true believer]

we were ordinary except for reddy .very good
monty good but below usual ultra high standard.
no cohesion in midfield

lots of ringing of hands to come .I tried to come up with
a 442 team for next week . I gave up .

 

[Atomic]

It pains me to say it, but Reddy gets my 3 points. He pulled off some awesome saves, but if I were to criticise him, I felt that there were a few times when his distribution put our backs under some unnecessary pressure. Boy, how the defence miss Patrick. It's a shame that Sains can't get one more season under his belt alongside the Dutchman.

Monty gets 2 points. A tough nut that takes no shit. I love the way he plays

Rose gets 1 point. I though his attacking game was quite positive. He narrowly pips the Thin White Duke who also had a commendable game.

At the other end of the scale... Hutch.. woeful, and Fitzgerald looked half a step behind everyone else. Flores was disappointing as was Macca.

 

[rbakersmith]

That really was a rubbish performance - the only standout from it was Reddy. It's going to be up to Pasfield to convince Arnie that he deserves to be back in goals.

Pretty much every player in yellow who was on the field during that game deserves a good boot up the arse.

I know it was good to have McBreen back at Bluetongue, but I wonder if the lack of an off-season (from what I recall he only had a few weeks between our last ACL game and the Shanghai international tournament) has left him a little tired. Perhaps the two weeks until the Perth game will do him some good (along with giving him some more time to work with Flores).

 

[Wombat]

Wombat, you are being generous.

It's frowned upon to slag off Hutcho. I try and be positive.
I actually like the bloke so pointing out his obvious flaws doesn't help with the formation Arnie is stuck with.

 

[Wombat]

3pts Reddy
2pts duke
1pt tesco

 

[Gratis]

The season:
Not yet worried about this seasons prospects but premiership hopes are slipping... might have to set sights on the grand final this year and defend the championship. Long way to go of course and we're not far behind but the competition is solid and I can't see the likes of wsw or roar dropping too many points.
In fairness this team is a rebuild and it will take some time for all elements to gel and to instinctively know Arnie's intentions. Once that comes to the fore there are attacking riches to be mined and by mid/late season this team should be deadly and a joy to watch, a real finals weapon.

The game:
Hoping that was the fire cracker up the rectum required.
Started the game well taking it to them but once the roar pressed hard at the end of the first half it began to get shambolic.
After that we weren't bad but we weren't good. Waaay too many cheap turnovers and toothless in attack. I did enjoy Rose having a maraud and hope he keeps it up.
At this stage in have to say I felt more comfortable with Reddy in goal, he did himself no harm with tonights effort. Pasfield is a decent keeper and I like the guy but he doesn't exude the confidence that reassures defenders and puts off attackers. Reddy had that as well as making critical, sharp saves.

Arnie has plenty of work to do to get the team really flowing. The signs are there but it's happening yet.
2 weeks now until the next game - not sure if that's a good or a bad thing.

 

[Wombat]

I just watched some FA cup game between some shitty non league teams. Crawley and someone I've never heard of and both were way better than us....especially defensively.
Pretty sad really.
Still relatively easily fixed if we wake up.

 

[Roy Law]

Liam Reddy almost saves the Mariners​

Liam Reddy; Man of the Match; the Mariners’ best player by the length of the Central Coast Highway.
I did not expect to be saying this today; you just don’t expect your goalkeeper to be your best player when you are playing at home. The truth is that but for his exploits this game would have been long over before Yeboah’s late winner. Brisbane deserved this but it was harsh on Reddy who grabbed the chance offered him to make a claim for a spot in the first eleven.
Brisbane Roar remains the nemesis of the Mariners. They have started the season well but were there for the taking today shorn of four quality first team players. I think they must have been relieved at the lack of intensity from the Mariners when they would have been expecting an onslaught. They were no great shakes themselves; this isn’t the magical unstoppable Barcelona-like force of a couple of years ago but they always looked the more likely to score.
Reddy replaced Justin Pasfield and Daniel McBreen was welcomed back upfront with Marcus Seip coming in at right back for Storm Roux.
Early exchanges were subdued; a half-shout for a penalty, but the defender had his arm by his side; an awful volley from Franjic and then a feeble attempt from Rose as he cut inside. It was Reddy who woke us up just past the half hour mark with a thrilling full length save from Henrique’s curving shot after Hutchinson had been caught in possession. It was an eminently makeable save but a good save nonetheless.
Duke registered the Mariners’ first meaningful shot at the end of the half when he chased a long ball but he hit his shot straight at Theo in the Brisbane goal; it was a very poor effort. No worse though than McKay who had missed a great chance moments earlier; but McKay regularly misses those, I don’t expect Mitchell Duke to do so.
The first half had been like fingernails scratching on glass; painful to watch. Marcus Flores, the in-house resident magician had left his wand at home but he was not helped by team mates who did not make runs, who had the first touch of a non-stick frying pan, or who passed the ball to the opposition. You hoped that things would get better in the second half.
The early signs were good: Seip got forward, for the first time in the game, and his cross almost found McBreen; Rose almost wriggled through on the left. At last the Mariners were going forward with purpose. It didn’t last; Reddy again called into action with a smart reaction save from Franjic’s clever volley.
Brisbane were beginning to dictate the play; Tomas Broich was warming to the task. The Mariners were on the back foot. Arnie had received great praise for his changes last week to rescue the game against the Jets, his tactical nous and bravery lauded by all. He brought on Sterjovski for Fitzgerald and ten minutes later Simon for the uninvolved Flores. It didn’t work. In between Reddy had pulled off a remarkable reflex save from Broich’s close range volley and then had been beaten by Henrique but Sainsbury cleared the shot off the line.
Simon almost forced the ball in after a quick throw found McBreen and unsettled the Roar defence, and then with just minutes to go Rose hit the post. So close! Could the Mariners lift and win this at the death? No! Two minutes later Yeboah’s searing shot was too hot even for the remarkable Reddy and the Mariners were undone.
Phil Moss had said in the week that the Mariners’ slow start was now over and they must lift for the Brisbane game; they didn’t. Brisbane fully deserved this by being the better of two sides who under performed on the day; they always looked the more likely to win. For the Mariners it was simply a bad day. Shit happens, as they say, and this was shit.
I would have preferred Anthony Caceres to have been brought on either to replace Hutchinson, who laboured all day, or Montgomery, who played well enough – just to change the dynamics; or even to play alongside Flores to give Brisbane something different to think about.
Reddy, as I have said, was our best by a long way; Monty and Rose gave the best support and the band still played We are the Champions. The hard-core crowd now seems to number 8,000, a nice increase of the 6,500 of a couple of years ago. For Flores it was a day that just didn’t happen but this was a one-off that the magicians have from time to time. Seip, though, is not a right back and we suffered with no headway on the right. With one win in five games the Mariners have some work to do.

 

[eenfish]

Sorely missed WeeMac and Roux. Looked like we were disorganised up front, had no cohesion, just couldn't get anything done. Never really looked like scoring at all. Reddy did alright with some nice saves, gotta give him that, as mentioned by others though is his distribution leaving a bit to be desired.
Thing is, Ryan never had to do as many saves as Reddy did and as JP has had to do. The defence isn't gelling, we aren't what we were last season, really missing Patty Z.

 

[dibo]

I won't interrupt the goo feasting too much other than to say I was impressed with Reddy.

I'm not likely to ever *like* the bloke, and there's always going to be a sort of nagging unease because of his history, but if he pulls on our shirt and puts in shows like that, he'll earn respect, that's for sure.

 

[MrCelery]

Roar gave us a big lesson in possession, passing, and making the extra space. At times it seemed they had 2 or 3 extra players on the park. Credit to Reddy. Was dead set against him signing, but he saved us from total embarrassment. I dislike Roar 'cause they are Queenslanders, but got to respect their style of play. We looked good in the first 10 minutes, but after that it was all downhill. The final 'Route 1' portion of the game was awful to watch. They definitely deserved the points.

 

[Capt. Awesome]

In the press conference Arnie said the main issue is mobility. I think he is totally right. We seems to get cornered way to often with no passing outlets.

Our CBs were stranded most of the time and when we passed to the wing we were forced into passes passes back to the centre which caused turnovers.

At least Arnie knows the problem. Lets hope he has a solution.


PS... Why the heck was McBreen starting? He hasn't hardly had a week of training with the boys and he's starting huh??? Flores and McBreen didn't look good together at all.

 

[Big Al]

Time to stop bitching about the bloke (me included) because the man wearing the gloves for 90m was fantastic. great reaction saves & the one that got through his legs he stopped enough for the Trent to save our bacon. The goal didn't appear to be anything to do with him but a bad defensive read & great through ball.

Zac & Seip can never be seen in the same side again. They don't have the passing required to set up our system.

The roar pressure was awesome & exposed our week passing. I joked during the week about a 1-5-5 system well we actually played it. The mariners went root 1 with no success. Largely due to struggling to get the ball to 1/2 way via slick ground passing or dribbling so we went the hoof & when we did the roar where in McBreen & Simon's back all day & ref gave nothing except the odd free kick to the roar when we won it fairly.

Referring was terrible the roar where aloud to nibble at our heels & push us in the back all day.
Monty & Simon were the only one's to fight fire with fire - Monty was great because he just stared laying in to blokes & getting the ball back. He played to the whistle knowing there wasn't going to be one. The rest just looked scared.

Fitzy - Doesn't like defending did a good job getting back in 1st half getting back but had TWO 50/50 TACKLES AND PULLED OUT OF BOTH - UNFORGIVEABLE!.

We need a midfielder who can dribble to complement hutch & Monty's fierce winning of possession but lack of quality passing.

Really missed storm & his only played 4 games.

Seip has no left foot - Had an open winger in attack but went back to the keeper because the pass needed to be made with the left foot - He couldn't do it. Then Duke threw the ball in to him in our attacking 1/3rd near the end & he was facing the wrong way & needed to use his left foot - he couldn't & turned it over.

We just don't have the passing skills in the back 6 (apart from Trent & Rose) to get our attackers involved against a well organise press like the Roar did.

Wombat if you still reading I hear you - starting to look ordinary instead of starting slow.

Of all the players we lost Patty Z & Matty R are looking like the two massive losses - The rest can be covered.

Also our the attackers didn't press as a team today bit disappointing.

On a positive for all the ball the Roar had they didn't really trouble us to much except for the couple of shots Reddy saved say 2-3 but not what they should of considering they controlled the midfield & had all the ball.

Very difficult to take the Roar family members celebrating on our turf - One took off his shirt & whipping it madly over his head when they scored (worse he was cut to). They deserved the win but it sucks to watch them celebrate right in front of you.

You might not win GF's in November but you can make it hard to get there.