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R25 Mariners v WSW: #ThanksHutch

dibo

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So, what's the go with Reddy's drop kick clearance kicks? I think I saw 2? Both from the northern end, with the breeze. The distance doesn't seem quite as far as a normal kick. Why use it? What has the Brains Trust here got to say about it?
It was when he was trying to quickly get a longer, flatter release to put someone in behind. Didn't work, but I see what he was trying to do.
 

pjennings

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So, what's the go with Reddy's drop kick clearance kicks? I think I saw 2? Both from the northern end, with the breeze. The distance doesn't seem quite as far as a normal kick. Why use it? What has the Brains Trust here got to say about it?

When I used to play the reason I used drop kicks was distance, accuracy and speed to the outfield player. A ball released at 45 degrees with the same force and ignoring weather will travel further on the fly than a punt at 60 degrees or a kick of the floor at 30 degrees. With practice hitting at around 45 degrees in an accurate manner is relatively easy to do. In reality this is just an old school pre-cursor to the South American side punt that Crawley has taught and is certainly easier to perfect.
 

Wombat

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What a great night to be a Mariners fan. Very special, and a fantastic atmosphere.

Kalik up front worked really well, and their backline was under constant pressure and didn't like it. Credit to Walmsley for the new approach, although the we need to be fitter if we're going to keep it up. Ran out of gas with 10 to go, but the Wanderers were even more tired.

As with most games this year we should have had it wrapped up much sooner. Wow do we need a finisher.

Credit also to the Wanderers fans who stayed and cheered Hutch after the match. Absolute class.

Crowd of 9,500 pfft. Had to be more like 13,000.


It's so bizarre how out of whack the counts are. Usually the last game is heavily undercounted for some reason?
 

Roy Law

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Monty Cracks the Whip
Well, that was all very pleasant; night football is so enjoyable. Both teams played their part as the gentle entertainment flowed. The good guy got the result he wanted and the send off from the crowd. The winning goal was deserving of three points anywhere.
Storm Roux was available after international duty and started; the surprise was Anthony Kalik making his full debut in place of Fitzgerald. It was a surprise that worked very well.
John Hutchinson could not have had a better start to this game than the opening goal: Caceres won the ball and slipped it to Kalik whose quick feet and vision found Josh Rose, who had timed his run perfectly to emphatically beat Bouzanis.
The Mariners pressed high, six or seven players deep in the Wanderers’ half; the Wanderers responded with sharp counter attacks, catching the Mariners on the break. Reddy flapped, and missed, at a cross but La Rocca could not capitalise; Reddy then turned a shot from Castelen around the post. Cernak ballooned a chance over the bar after good work from Hutchinson. Both teams were playing good football.
Bulut had an excellent chance, perhaps his best chance of the game, after a casual Montgomery pass had the Wanderers breaking at pace but he hit it over the bar. There was a bounce in the step of the Mariners, they were enjoying their football; Caceres was showing extraordinary balance and close control. Roux was having a field day on the right, Rose was bombing forward like the good old days. Reddy somehow got his head in the way of another chance as the Wanderers threatened again and then Ferreira set up a great chance with a ball across the face of the goal but no one could get a touch.
Anderson was getting to grips with Bulut, reading the play well and getting his challenges in first, frustrating the little firebrand whose appeals to the ref fell on deaf ears. Caceres then superbly created a great chance but undid all the good work with a poor shot over the bar.
The Mariners pushed forward in the second half, the football was convincing and intelligent. Ferreira’s scintillating footwork set up Fitzgerald, who had replaced the impressive Kalik (is this kid really only 17?), but Fitzy’s shot was just wide. In fairness to the young man who generally can’t hit the proverbial barn door, it was his first touch so he can be forgiven. Caceres and Ferreira then set up Cernak but he too hit wide; not quite so forgiveable.
The Mariners were still pressing high, swarming aggressively around the ball carrier; there was a good intensity about their play. Bulut again got away on the break but Anderson blocked the attempt and then it was Ferreira’s turn but he hit it too close to Bouzanis. And then Fitzgerald almost had Josh Rose in again with a clever pass.
With ten minutes to go John Hutchinson was replaced by Liam Rose; the crowd rose to its feet to applaud, the Wanderers fans too, there were hugs all round; it was a deeply moving moment.
Matt Simon came on a couple of minutes later, clearly not match fit, as a gesture to him for his last home game too. But he had had his big farewell a couple of years ago; this was more muted.
Once again, if this is the style of football the Mariners are going to play then we are all going to be entertained. We need more quality but there was also a nice glimpse of some of the young potential in this side. Walmsley clearly has an affinity with young players and none was more impressive than young Nick Montgomery who was like a stockman with a whip as he bit into the Wanderers players and drove his team forward. I reckon this kid has a great future in the game.
The Wanderers fans have transformed the A League landscape with their outstanding support but what a pity a couple of dickheads think it is fun to set off flares at the game. Why on earth would anyone take the trouble to do this? It only harms the game and their team.
 

nearlyyellow

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young players and none was more impressive than young Nick Montgomery who was like a stockman with a whip as he bit into the Wanderers players and drove his team forward. I reckon this kid has a great future in the game.
Errrr, s/be Anthony Kalik ?
Nice summation thanks RL, yours is always an interesting read.

EDIT: Thanks GrA below, it was lost on me then, too early, first cuppa still on the brew. Reading again I do see the tongue in cheek. :oops:
 
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nebakke

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When I used to play the reason I used drop kicks was distance, accuracy and speed to the outfield player. A ball released at 45 degrees with the same force and ignoring weather will travel further on the fly than a punt at 60 degrees or a kick of the floor at 30 degrees. With practice hitting at around 45 degrees in an accurate manner is relatively easy to do. In reality this is just an old school pre-cursor to the South American side punt that Crawley has taught and is certainly easier to perfect.

I think you've got it spot-on here actually. I was talking to a friend at the game, we both noted that Reddy's kick-outs seemed to be getting a LOT more accurate than they have been. Without having the numbers to back it up obviously, going back a couple of months, it felt like a ball at Reddy's foot, not being played out, was an almost guaranteed handover, mostly in the form of a throw-in but otherwise as a lob to an opposition player.

While still a ways from Matty's (and often Pasfield's) precision, on Saturday he seemed to get most of them right - which was a nice change. Although, I also noticed that he looked to Walmsley to get directions on where to target it, more than once.
Anyway, I don't expect him to have Matty's accuracy either, let's face it, we've been spoiled there. But if he can keep his shot-stopping performance and combine it with the accuracy from this weekend, I think we'll still be sitting on one of the best all-round keepers currently in the comp... That's a nice turnaround... Special mention to that double save, first with the face, then with the hands... How he managed to get up and block the second try after copping it right in the face, I don't know.

Knock-on-wood, his trademarked walk-abouts also seem to happen much less often... So he seems to be coming along somewhat :)
 

dibo

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Walmsley telling the defenders to get in first, to cut out the danger before it happens - football can be so simple at times.
Even Ando's passing was crisp and sure.
That was really noticeable. The attitude was to make sure that Bulut in particular never had time, and to move the ball on sharply. No dithering, find a man and *bang*.

Anderson made a ridiculous number of interceptions, and between him and Monty I'm sure Bulut had a few spots needing ice after the match.

If he can play like that every week he's an asset.

We played much higher generally, which worked largely because they were ineffective at playing short angled balls through the back 4. They resorted to chips over the top which if they were wide allowed is to slide over and corner them or if too straight they'd go to Reddy. We hunted in packs to press their back 4 too, reducing the quality of their balls out and increasing the number of turnovers.

I like it. I understand why we played a deeper block under Arnie and Moss but I like the change too.
 
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style_cafe

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Can anyone direct me to a replay of the game?
Apart from the one pass to Rose for the goal I seem to have missed Kallic`s fine performance.
Don`t get me wrong, he is a talented player & has a bright future.
However, I fail to see any reason to play him at striker other than it was only position left for him to get game time.
IMO he got monstered & at times was left wanting.
 

nebakke

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Can anyone direct me to a replay of the game?
Apart from the one pass to Rose for the goal I seem to have missed Kallic`s fine performance.
Don`t get me wrong, he is a talented player & has a bright future.
However, I fail to see any reason to play him at striker other than it was only position left for him to get game time.
IMO he got monstered & at times was left wanting.

It's funny how people can watch the same game and see different things isn't it? :)

I was REALLY pleasantly surprised with Kalik actually. I thought he handled himself really well and was VERY unlucky not to get at least one in. Sad to say but I also thought we looked a lot better with him up front than with Matty on... That actually surprised me a little, but I think maybe it just got shoved, smack-bang in my face there... And I'm a Mat Simon fan...
I thought Kalik managed to get past them well and even if not that, he seemed to generally draw a defender or two with him, to create some space for others.

In fact, he impressed me quite a bit more than Liam Rose did, which is another fine example of how we can watch the same game but see different things ;)
 

AuzDutchy

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It's funny how people can watch the same game and see different things isn't it? :)

I was REALLY pleasantly surprised with Kalik actually. I thought he handled himself really well and was VERY unlucky not to get at least one in. Sad to say but I also thought we looked a lot better with him up front than with Matty on... That actually surprised me a little, but I think maybe it just got shoved, smack-bang in my face there... And I'm a Mat Simon fan...
I thought Kalik managed to get past them well and even if not that, he seemed to generally draw a defender or two with him, to create some space for others.

In fact, he impressed me quite a bit more than Liam Rose did, which is another fine example of how we can watch the same game but see different things ;)


This!

Kalik seemed to be able to turn on a dime the other night, def one for the future, would be good seeing him play as a 10 with Caceras behind a striker with Fabio and (?) on the wings
 

Capt. Awesome

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Can anyone direct me to a replay of the game?
Apart from the one pass to Rose for the goal I seem to have missed Kallic`s fine performance.
Don`t get me wrong, he is a talented player & has a bright future.
However, I fail to see any reason to play him at striker other than it was only position left for him to get game time.
IMO he got monstered & at times was left wanting.

I thought he played really well. Although he was selected in the sticker position I don't think we were using him as a striker. Was more used as a second CAM to Caseres to help bring the wingers and fullbacks into play. On Fox sport Shootout show with the interview with Hutch they give him a big wrap and show a lot of his plays for that game.
 

Bladesman

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I rated Kalic that game for sure
Agree, very excited with what I saw from him. Great footballer but was impressed with his work rate. Also rated Caceras game very highly, looks to be a different player again now not under Moss.
 

justafan

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Great game by the mariners. Great atmosphere. Thanks for 10 yrs of loyalty Hutch. The following is by Goal .com
Well done Rose and Caceres.

A-League Team of the Week: Jets, Mariners earn the spotlight


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Goalkeeper – Glen Moss
The Wellington Phoenix custodian was in top form during the 0-0 draw away to Melbourne City on Sunday evening, denying the hosts on countless occasions as John van ‘t Schip’s men and the visitors from New Zealand somehow conspired to preserve the deadlock in an otherwise hugely entertaining encounter.
Defence – Louis Fenton (RB), Daniel Bowles (CB), Jacques Faty (CB), Josh Rose (LB)
Fenton caused Safuwan Baharudin plenty of problems at AAMI Park, where he won an early penalty off the City left-back which Nathan Burns failed to convert.
You might be surprised by our choice of Bowles at centre-back following his sending off and given the fact Brisbane Roar conceded two goals in their 3-2 win at Adelaide United. But the fact remains he otherwise had a superb game and seems to have found his niche for the men in orange.
Bowles' closing speed is a major asset in the middle of the defence, making life difficult for rival forwards.
An unlucky red card in the dying seconds marred an otherwise top night for Bowles, who piloted Brisbane's undermanned defence at Coopers Stadium.
Alongside him is Sydney FC’s mid-season recruit Jacques Faty. Two months after his first-half dismissal at nib Stadium, the Senegalese defender returned to the scene of the crime and helped the Sky Blues emerge 3-0 winners, the visitors keeping a clean sheet and restricting the dispirited hosts’ threat to a minimum.
Josh Rose is our choice at left-back after the veteran helped to farewell his fellow Mariners stalwarts John Hutchinson and Matt Simon with the early winning goal in what was the final home match for the two long-serving Gosford servants.
Midfield – Jonatan Germano, Anthony Caceres, Enver Alivodic, Andrew Hoole
Germano will be doing the grunt work in our four-man midfield after his recent return to fitness and form for City. The Argentine was a bundle of energy in the stalemate against the Phoenix, getting forward and back to good effect throughout the contest.
Charged with more creative responsibilities will be Cacerers. The Mariners midfielder was at the heart of many of his side’s best attacks and also set up their winning goal by robbing Romeo Castelen of possession inside the Wanderers half.
Enver Alivodic and Andrew Hoole are on the right and left flank respectively after giving the Melbourne Victory defence a really tough time in the Jets’ 1-0 upset win at AAMI Park on Friday night.
Forwards – Bernie Ibini, Alex Brosque
It’s an all Sky Blue frontline this week after Sydney FC’s captain and domestic marquee bagged two goals in the comprehensive victory over the Glory. Ibini supplied the other in spectacular fashion, controlling a high ball just inside the area, taking it around his man and then lashing a fantastic effort into the far corner of the net, leaving Danny Vukovic no chance.
 

Roy Law

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Can anyone direct me to a replay of the game?
Apart from the one pass to Rose for the goal I seem to have missed Kallic`s fine performance.
Don`t get me wrong, he is a talented player & has a bright future.
However, I fail to see any reason to play him at striker other than it was only position left for him to get game time.
IMO he got monstered & at times was left wanting.
Walmsley makes it clear in the presser that the decision to play him was a last minute left of field decision following impressive displays in training. Walmsley said that without a conventional no 9 - Duke gone, Simon not up to it - he just gave it a go. Kalik is not a striker, any 17 year old is going to get monstered, but I liked the dimension he gave
 

style_cafe

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I`m glad Walmsley explains it like that & to be honest, at this stage of the season he had nothing to loose.
I would have thought Bingham would have been a better option as it`s his position, but I`m not on the training paddock.

Full credit to Kalik for earning his spot & taking his chance.
Hopefully one day we`ll be seeing him in his preferred position playing his heart out.

I`m still looking for a replay though.
 

Wombat

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Can anyone direct me to a replay of the game?
Apart from the one pass to Rose for the goal I seem to have missed Kallic`s fine performance.
Don`t get me wrong, he is a talented player & has a bright future.
However, I fail to see any reason to play him at striker other than it was only position left for him to get game time.
IMO he got monstered & at times was left wanting.

He did ok.
Probably better than Fitzy in the last few weeks.
However it is baffling that we can play the last 5 weeks without a proper centre forward......but that shows how f**ked up our squad was under Mossy and how clueless our management was too oversee and allow the debarcle to continue.
 

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