R23 Glory v CCM

[BrisRecky]

I can see were Slater might have a case of the shits with us but I cant see Bozza having any "apparent" reason to dislike us ...but the mate of Laurie theory holds as much water as any

 

[Spacks]

The sort of tripe he's coming up with doesn't suggest it's borne out of a deep-seated respect. If that was what he believed he wouldn't be constantly coming up with how we shouldn't even be in the league.

With how we're playing do you honestly think we should be? I don't.

We're completely outclassed by every team.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

With how we're playing do you honestly think we should be? I don't.

We're completely outclassed by every team.

Then why are you bothering to post on the forum? Delete your membership and sell your jersey.

Seriously, wtf is with CCM so-called supporters trying to argue that CCM shouldn't exist?

Yeah, we're shit this season. Deal with it. We've still got one of the fullest trophy cabinets in the league. Every season somebody is completely outclassed by every team. this one it's us. The one thing we certainly don't need to CCM so-called supporters jumping on the 'let's kick CCM out of the competition' bandwagon.

 

[Rowdy]

With how we're playing do you honestly think we should be? I don't.

Let's look at what your saying with some context :

"With how we're playing do you honestly think we should be in the A-League ?"
OR,
"I dont think we should be in the A-League"

Call yourself a CCM supporter ???

Wake up to yourself mate, do you think we should be playing against the Gosford City Dragons or the Toukley Gunner's instead ?

WSW last season only missed out winning The Spoon by just 1 point, (WSW 18pts, Scum 17pts).

Tonite - approx a year later- they're Top of the Table.

It's one bad season out of 11

I'm not happy to be winning the Spoon, but I'd be more than happy to lose people such as yourself who think ridiculously that we dont deserve to be in the A-League.

Ditto Capt.G'Blood'Beard;
- Cancel your Membership
- Burn your Jersey (if you even own one)
- Delete your profile on here or at a bare minimum, remove the CCM logo as your avatar .... why have it there ??? .... if they're not good enough for you !!!

 

[Spacks]

You honestly think how we played this season was on par with the rest of the league? I love this club but to go full retard like you have just because I said we played like shit is pretty funny.

 

[dibo]

You honestly think how we played this season was on par with the rest of the league? I love this club but to go full retard like you have just because I said we played like shit is pretty funny.

FFS. Let's actually clear this up rather than going around in circles.

If you're saying we're not up to the required standard this year, well hop up on stage and have this Nobel Prize for Outstanding Reading of a League Table - we're 12pts off the bottom so of course we're not up to the required standard this year.

What CGB and Rowdy are firing up about is the idea that they are inferring that you mean, i.e. that as a club we're not good enough to be here (and might as well give up our spot).

If you don't mean that, say that that's not what you mean rather than saying they're going "full retard".

If you *are* saying we shouldn't be in the league, then you ought to consider why you're bothering to post on a Mariners fans' forum.

 

[Rowdy]

LOL

 

[FFC Mariner]

Point is moot. Another season like this one and the FFA will quietly execute us citing metrics.

Doesn't matter what we want

 

[Rowdy]

I love this club but to go full retard like you have just because I said we played like shit is pretty funny.

You found that retarded ? Gee I'm glad I didn't use any 'big-words' greater than 12 character's for your benefit.

Annd you DIDN'T say 'we played like shit'

You said this:

With how we're playing do you honestly think we should be? (in the A-LEAGUE ) I don't.

What you're saying above is akin (like, for those that are retarded) to a person saying they loooove the Parramatta Eels, BUT because they breached the salary-cap they SHOULD BE kicked-out of the NRL because it's wholesale cheating.

If anyone can find me an Eels Supporter that would say that then I'll give the Neanderthal your number and you guys can be best buddies.

Buy a Membership
DONT buy a Membership.
Who Cares !?!?

At least for future reference we know what type of support you offer the Mariners.

 

[dibo]

Point is moot. Another season like this one and the FFA will quietly execute us citing metrics.

Doesn't matter what we want

Everyone loves to be the bearer of bad tidings around here but it's bullshit.

Not every club is a big club. For there to be a league at all in this country, there need to be some small clubs.

And for us, whilst the football has stunk, there are green shoots for the business.

For a start, our crowds are actually up this year.

To compare the core crowds, if you take out the derbies, the NSO game and the non-membership game vs Adelaide to come at a core Gosford crowd from last year and take out the derbies from this year, the NYE game and the Geelong game you get a core Gosford crowd. No events, derbies or other mallarky interfering with the numbers.

Average last year: 6,862

Average this year: 7,409.

Our core is up 8% in our hardest ever year.

This in a year where overall, crowds are down ~2%.

And consider that we've made a surplus (windfall-assisted, but it's still in black ink).

If we actually played some decent football this year we might have had a chance to sell more sponsorship and memberships and gone better next year, but this year's been a clearing the decks year, it's fair to say...

Overall league ratings are down a little but that's largely driven by SBS shifting the league to the secondary channel again. That's not a problem unique to the Mariners.

Our ratings are probably generally lower, but we're a small market.

The generic "we're crap so they're going to punt us" argument shits me no end because it's usually delivered with no evidence whatsoever behind it and relies on a general unspecified threat from above.

They didn't even kill off the Nix; a club that is far more complicated for FFA because they deliver f**k all and basically cost the organisation the best part of $3m for the benefit of having an extra name in the draw. If they didn't kill them off I don't believe for a second that they're going to punt us.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

Aaah Dibo, the voice of reason in the wilderness.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Be consistent, this is the season Storrie told us we had to have and everything will be better in the future.

If it's true, the point. Is. Moot.

 

[dibo]

Be consistent, this is the season Storrie told us we had to have and everything will be better in the future.

If it's true, the point. Is. Moot.

I'm not Storrie, I don't have to be consistent with his arguments. Nevertheless, I'm not sure what I posted is inconsistent with that idea. It might have gone better, but it could well be hat the clearing of the decks this year is what has us set for battle in future seasons.

 

[Spacks]

FFS. Let's actually clear this up rather than going around in circles.

If you're saying we're not up to the required standard this year, well hop up on stage and have this Nobel Prize for Outstanding Reading of a League Table - we're 12pts off the bottom so of course we're not up to the required standard this year.

What CGB and Rowdy are firing up about is the idea that they are inferring that you mean, i.e. that as a club we're not good enough to be here (and might as well give up our spot).

If you don't mean that, say that that's not what you mean rather than saying they're going "full retard".

If you *are* saying we shouldn't be in the league, then you ought to consider why you're bothering to post on a Mariners fans' forum.

Well this season we haven't been good enough, us sitting at the bottom of the ladder proves that. We're lucky we don't have promotion/relegation in this league or we'd quite possibly be f**ked. I never said we might as well give up our spot, I was giving a no bullshit assessment of our performance this season. If people took it the other way, you might need to wake up to yourself and stop thinking everyone's attacking the club. As a fan and supporter, I'm entitled to my opinion and I stand by it.

Don't like it? Jog on, pal.

 

[dibo]

I certainly won't jog on, and I'll disagree with you anytime I like.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Don't like it? Jog on, pal.

Given you seem to think that a bad season means we should be playing state leage instead of the HAL, it seems like you've already made the argument for yourself to jog on.....

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

I never said we might as well give up our spot,.

You're kidding, right? In fact, that's exactly what you said. Let me remind you: (formatting wasn't working properly, hence duplicate post)

If that was what he believed he wouldn't be constantly coming up with how we shouldn't even be in the league[/QUOTE]

With how we're playing do you honestly think we should be? I don't.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

You seem to be backtracking slightly with each post. What you said is on display for all, so no point pretending you didn't say it.

There are a lot of things a fan can say. Tell us the CEO, board, any/all of the players need to be turfed, fine. Tell us this person doesn't know what they're doing, that person is dragging the club down, etc etc, that's all fine.

But you never, NEVER say anything even close to saying we don't belong.​

Anybody who knows anything about where we've been understands why that is the worst possible thing you can say. For ANY club, for a fan to say that they shouldn't be in the league is completely not on (especially when there no promotion/relegation setup). But for us? Even before our first match we were constantly attacked by media pundits, football 'supporters' and other so-called 'experts' telling us that we should exist. No club has copped that like we have. Right from the start, and the intensity of that denial of our existence has been ferocious.

That has formed our identity. Sure, we're the smallest club with the smallest catchment area and you don't think we exist? Well, f*** you, we'll show you what a club that apparently shouldn't exist can do.

That's why we won the first piece of silverware on offer. That's why we have one of the fullest trophy cabinets in the league. That's why we've set the standard for youth recruitment, building relationships with other areas both domestically and overseas, and for planning for the future. That's why we've set the standard for some of the greatest Marquee recruitment this competition has ever seen. Repeatedly. That's why we've set the standard by managing to be not only financially viable, but profitable (off and on - which is still pretty good for a sporting club). That's why we've set the standard for one of the highest match attendances per capita for our catchment area.

It's a direct response to this that we take tremendous pride in being 'the little club that could'. That's a fundamental part of our identity, our club culture. People on here have had 'Can you smell the fear?' as their signature - because fear of what a small region can do in a league dominated by capital cities is the only reason we can think of for the unjustified hatred. And my god, it gives me so much pride to stick it to all those elitist pricks.

Despite all that, the cowards, scumbags and idiots (yes, I'm looking at the coke snorter in particular) still try to argue that we shouldn't exist. We can't even call these people supporters of the game any more, because to deny what we bring to the table is just beyond idiotic, beyond ignorant, and shows that irrational hatred is far more important than the league or sport itself. We still cop it, and it's disgraceful. It's pathetic. It's slanderous. It's sickening. It's persistent. It's persistent. It's so f****** mindnumbingly persistent.

So to use our one really bad season after everything we have accomplished as an argument against our very existence, from pundits it's nothing but sheer hysterics and it's completely absurd.

To hear it from CCM members?

It's completely unforgivable.

So please, for everybody jumping on the 'CCM don't belong in the HAL' bandwagon. Burn your f****** jersey if you ever owned one. Delete your account and forget the mariners. Give your tickets to charity or something. Because if that's the sort of statement anybody is going to make, then I can't even accuse you of no longer being a fan - because you never were. Worst possible comment anybody could make on here, and I hope this helps explain why.

I'm choosing to believe that the above paragraph doesn't actually apply to anybody on here, because I'm (hopefully) choosing to believe that even those on here who have made those comments don't truly believe that, and have just sought an irrational, unreasonable or hysterical manner in which to show their unhappiness. Even if those are the reasons and the comments are just recklessly made with no consideration for their true meaning, they are still completely crossing the line and not something a fan should ever be saying, so I hope this gives a few of your cause to reflect upon what you've actually been saying on here.

As a fan it's certainly you're right to come on here and rant and complain every single week about how inept the management and players are. You do not ever question, even by a vague indirect implication, our right to exist.




Ever.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Would the consensus be that we accept "this playing group is not of aleague standard"?

Maybe that's what he actually meant?

Bit harsh to flog a bloke for a post game rant. We have all been guilty of that.

 

[adz]

Bit harsh to flog a bloke for a post game rant. We have all been guilty of that.

Was thinking that, lol.
Can't expect someone to be thinking too clearly after many of our games this year, and probably why the sensible ones stay away from social media rather than venting straight away

Don't like it? Jog on, pal.

But then telling someone to "jog on" is pretty stupid.

Is this yoooo, then?