R18: Roar v CCM

[Ancient Mariner]

I simply can't come to that conclusion when he hasn't made the slightest attempt to stop 2 of them. If he at least tried, made a dive and couldn't make it, fair enough, maybe a better keeper could have got it but can't complain too much. But I don't see how you could say 'not his fault' when there's no attempt.

Think that may be a little unfair. When you are beaten flat footed you are beaten and no amount of useless diving helps.

What worries me is the amount of action that goes on in the eight yard box with no attempt to control. He just retreats to his line.

Not nearly assertive enough.

Distribution is woeful. If we are going to use our speed and score on the counter. His is the first move.

It is not happening.

 

[pjennings]

Think that may be a little unfair. When you are beaten flat footed you are beaten and no amount of useless diving helps.

What worries me is the amount of action that goes on in the eight yard box with no attempt to control. He just retreats to his line.

Not nearly assertive enough.

Distribution is woeful. If we are going to use our speed and score on the counter. His is the first move.

It is not happening.

Agreed - but the other question then becomes why are you flat-footed so often. Bray on the limited amount I have seen of him looks a more complete keeper.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Agreed - but the other question then becomes why are you flat-footed so often. Bray on the limited amount I have seen of him looks a more complete keeper.

Agreed there. I ran drills when I coached U/8 to teach them to not be flat footed. This should be keeping 101. Heck, it's playing 101 - but I'd argue it's more important to a keeper than anybody else.

But all too often his body language seems to say 'I'm going to watch this one go out for a goal ki........fml'

Oh, and to be pedantic - the Goal Area is 6 yards, not 8 ;-)

 

[gull]

It seems that this year TW is playing a lot of guys out of their natural position to cover for inadequacies of the roster or the players. Just in the last couple of weeks for example:

-MCGing, came through youth as a DM, we have turned him into a CB

-Niell, left full back, and not a great one this season, turned into an attacking midfielder??

-Fletcher, out and out striker, start on the wing with no forwards on the bench to relieve late in the game??( do we seriously not travel with another forward in case of injury??)

-McDonald, where did he even end up? When he went on we only had Garcia and Bingas as forwards on the field, the rest was made up of DMs, FBs and CBs?

-Stella, left wing at MV, and not a great one, so might as well turn him into a 10...

My point is while we are publicly trying to promote youth, they need some leadership, and experience. Not just experienced players around them, but experience IN THE POSITION! Imagine what went through Niells head before New Years... "So you missed a chunk of last year, have been struggling at FB, so tonight we are going to move you to 10. I know you have never played there before, and have shown no skills to say you can, but you have a big motor. Oh, and you don't get 10mins of the bench to get a feel for it, your playing all 90."

I made this point in another thread. We rarely have the same players in the same position week to week.

Stella plays two games as an AM, then isn't even in the squad this week.

Fletcher starts as striker two games back, disappears the following week, then returns off the bench yesterday and plays left wing.

McGing, who I think has been excellent, was terrific as a DM when he was played there, but hasn't been put back since.

Ascroft has been great in the LCB position, but starts from the bench yesterday then comes on as a DM while McGing stays in LCB (wtf?).

I just don't see any clear plan or idea as to what our best team is from the coaching staff. We seem to be just throwing darts each week hoping to hit a bullseye, but completely missing the board.

We changed from all out attack in the beginning, to sitting back and playing on the counter last week, and then who knows what yesterday. We certainly weren't on the counter we we had no quick transition, and turned the ball back as soon as it got to midfield.

Walmsley was completely out coached by Aloisi, which says it all.

I understand that we have a young team, but the lack of effort yesterday was a joke. Borello was completely unmarked on the right wing so many times, and had all the time in the world to do whatever he wanted, as did most of their team.

 

[BrisRecky]

didnt we have the problem of Mossys teams radically changing week to week and blokes being played out of position ?....and that was MC calling the shots wasnt it?....deja vu somewhat

 

[gull]

didnt we have the problem of Mossys teams radically changing week to week and blokes being played out of position ?....and that was MC calling the shots wasnt it?....deja vu somewhat

Yep - exactly.

 

[Rowdy]

Oh, and to be pedantic - the Goal Area is 6 yards, not 8 ;-)

I think AM meant to BUT left off the 'teen'

As in eighteen yard box ...... perhaps

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

that would make more sense

 

[Ancient Mariner]

Brain fade. Meant six.

 

[Coach]

I havent seen the game and just know he made a C of himself. I saw a 10 sec grab and Posco looked terrible as well.
I remember a mate of mine that used to play for South Melb in NSL days. He told me they had a hard arse Pommie coach (not manager...just to teach skills).
If they didnt win a defensive header.....they would me abused massively. They didnt make the same mistake the following week!

When Ferguson was here with Lawrie he was fierce and basically did all the coaching and we were sharp all over.

Tony and Hutch dont have a f**king clue about defending but we still have done NOTHING to solve the problem.

Its getting beyond a joke.

Hi Fonzie, cockhead here, I love the fact you openly state your ignorance and still bag players without seeing the game lol. Very classy description of Storm all the same. I then fell over laughing when you pointed too Ferguson as a quality defensive coach, superb coach old fergie. I would say watch the game then comment but your diatribe is always the same despite the result, guess it doesn't matter. If only we had Heffernan up front hey, lol

 

[Coach]

This is what you get with such young players. One week we're all talking defensive improvements the next how awful we (rightfully) are. They will be inconsistent unless further bolstered. And even though they are improving, will still have a shocker one in every handful of games. And playing roar is a long way from helping. Good side.

Unfortunately can't see it getting much better against the reds tbh.

Well said agree 100%. What worries me is that they looked flat. away to Phoenix then back and up to a pressing roar. Clearly the management of the players needs to improve, under Clarky they rarely looked flat but this year it has happened a number of times. I'm also concerned about the GK coaching Izzo is making the same mistakes are they working on them. Is he failing to change.

 

[Rowdy]

Have taken FFC's post from the CCM Fans and the club thread as I feel it's a valid question for this game:

Your left winger gets hurt in the warm up and you decide that a lumbering striker with no pace or match fitness is a better option than the 3 naturally left sided players in the squad.

Even more so when you know that you're putting a player like Garcia on after the half-time break, who's greatest asset is 'playing the through ball' - getting it in behind opposition defences, THAT REQUIRES a player like Fletcher to get on the end of.

An EVEN harder task after playing the opening 45mins when your in the physical shape that Fletch's in.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Ascroft to CB, McGing to DM and Neill or Rosey senior wide left.

If he just wanted to get time into Fletcher's legs, play him in the centre and make Bingers go wide.

 

[Wombat]

Hi Fonzie, cockhead here, I love the fact you openly state your ignorance and still bag players without seeing the game lol. Very classy description of Storm all the same. I then fell over laughing when you pointed too Ferguson as a quality defensive coach, superb coach old fergie. I would say watch the game then comment but your diatribe is always the same despite the result, guess it doesn't matter. If only we had Heffernan up front hey, lol

Hey Cockhead,
As usual, you post nothing but snidey drivel.
When did I mention Ferguson was a great defensive coach?
And yes Ferguson was an excellent assistant coach.
We lost 4.0 and i saw the goals. I havent had the courage to sit through the tape yet.
Storm cant defend...simple as. Maybe as you would have us believe its the Coaches fault but I doubt it.
What were your thoughts about the game?
Where you happy and if not what changes would you make if you were the COACH, coach?

 

[Rowdy]

Hi Fonzie, cockhead here,

Bag him out for questioning the coaching in regards to defence ........

THEN you - yourself go on to question the coaching of the goalkeeping. wtf ???

That'd be a bit of 'Pot- Kettle- Black' in my book

Oh & to personally abuse him with a 'Cock-head' when he hadn't referenced you at all.

To use your own words:

Very classy description

 

[dibo]

Keep it up and posts will be deleted, keep it up beyond then and accounts will be suspended. Keep it nice.

 

[true believer]

im feeling the love

 

[dibo]

One post deleted already. Consider it a yellow card and a general warning.

 

[Rowdy]

Fcuk ! missed it.
I was 39mins late logging on tonite

 

[Rowdy]

Can someone pm me the referee's report as to:
- who was carded ?
- is it their 5th ?
- & what was the back-chat deciphered from the lip-read ???