R12: Central Coast Mariners vs Brisbane Roar

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

The problem with an indirect kick is that the ball has to be passed to the next player to shoot and that always gives the defenders time to block the shot; almost certainly illegally but referees are rarely strong enough to enforce the rules even though this referee did make them take it twice. The shot was easily blocked. What the Mariners should have done, in hindsight, is treat the kick as direct, and take a shot, hoping for a deflection. .​

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The defence can charge it the moment that first touch is taken. But I agree with your point - I've seen a few goals scored by belting it at the defenders and following it in! You could even do a dummy touch first to make sure they don't duck it (and hopefully draw the card).

Good write up, as always!

What I think the best thing about Simon is these days is that his mere presence seems to inspire the rest of the team. You can't coach that.

 

[rbakersmith]

What is with the Bosnar goal "celebration"?

A little more on this...

BOSNAR: Eddy has just spoken w/ @nbnnews. He says celebration was not directed at fans & is sorry if anyone took it that way. Tonight @ 6.

 

[Jaundice]

9,932? My guess just before half was 11,500 to 12k. So that agrees with what others are saying. I was disappointed that it looked like we just wouldn't crack the 12k. But 9,932? If there was a problem with the count why the bloody hell don't they just say so and announce that it is an estimated 9,932 but due to equipment problems we know that there are more of you here than that!

Maybe everyone cashing in their free tickets for their mates broke it. Oops wrong conspiracy... I mean charlesworth personally fudged the figures because he hates coasties

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

I agree - no way was that crowd so small. On TV it looked like the Western stand was quite full with fair few people in the Eastern stand as well.

Crowd sounded amazing - I love that the drum is back. And did the wider crowd get involved in those 'Who do we sing for?' chants?

 

[nearlyyellow]

I agree - no way was that crowd so small. On TV it looked like the Western stand was quite full with fair few people in the Eastern stand as well.

Crowd sounded amazing - I love that the drum is back. And did the wider crowd get involved in those 'Who do we sing for?' chants?

Not everyone near me! When we did the chant response for the 50th. time ( ) some people near us gave us the big wtf are you doing look. I just smiled, nodded my head and pointed at Bay 16. Never seen those people before though, not wearing colours, not cheering or demonstrative at all, so were probably visitors, first timers, or NRL/AFL fans ( )

 

[true believer]

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The defence can charge it the moment that first touch is taken. But I agree with your point - I've seen a few goals scored by belting it at the defenders and following it in! You could even do a dummy touch first to make sure they don't duck it (and hopefully draw the card).

Good write up, as always!

What I think the best thing about Simon is these days is that his mere presence seems to inspire the rest of the team. You can't coach that.

simon
actually looked,,,,,,,,,,,,skillful

 

[nebakke]

I agree - no way was that crowd so small. On TV it looked like the Western stand was quite full with fair few people in the Eastern stand as well.

Crowd sounded amazing - I love that the drum is back. And did the wider crowd get involved in those 'Who do we sing for?' chants?

Yellow Army did an amazing job yesterday. Often it's a bit of a cliche, that whole thing about the supporters being the 12th man etc. etc... But yesterday, there's no doubt in my mind that the crowd response was part of the reason why the team lifted and got the fighting will back in the second half.
Duke's first game, against Adelaide I think? - had a similar thing going I recall... WeeMac almost scored and the crowd caught the scent of blood... I LOVE - SPELL L-O-V-E LOVE - when that happens, it just becomes electric, it's like the players are willed on to score.. In that game I think it was Dukie that responded, yesterday it was Matty, which is hardly surprising

Anywho, WDWSF is quickly becoming the new 'mariners-clap-clap-clap'. It has been since that ACL game after we won the Championship, YA can always get a response with that one... But it WAS particularly good yesterday.
Whoever sits in the top stands on the Western side, that kept starting it up, did well too, people were joining in on 'COAST taptaptaptap' as well as 'We luvya' - so sue me, trying to name/describe the chants isn't easy

I think the second half last night, is the strongest supporter show I've ever seen at a CCM... I doubt it but God, I'd like to think that it could be repeated against City.

Funny thing was, I realised that the father of a kid that my li'l-un used to play football with, has seats a bit further down from us, so I had a chat to him yesterday. I recall him raising concerns about the impact of active support - yahdeyah hooligans - but even he, actually got pulled into it last night.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Was he concerned about YA and hooliganism? We've always had a really well behaved supporter base, and not really tolerated the dickhead element

 

[nebakke]

simon
actually looked,,,,,,,,,,,,skillful

Yeah, this is a funny thing I think... He is much maligned on online football boards but... He's almost scored in every game that he's started in, playing for a side that's struggling to find the goal, against the same teams as everyone else... I think he's done a fair job of showing that he's not just a NPL-quality player who somehow magically has managed to land an A-league contract...

 

[nebakke]

Was he concerned about YA and hooliganism? We've always had a really well behaved supporter base, and not really tolerated the dickhead element

Well no, not 'per se', he had this idea that 'active support' = 'hooligans' eventually... They might not be bad now because we have such a small group, but if the crowd becomes engaged then it'll lead to a hooliganistic blood-frenzy... I paraphrase, but that was the general idea, with RBB as the base of his reasoning.
I tried to explain that morons are morons, unfortunately football becomes the excuse, but it certainly isn't the reason, but he seemed to tend to cut it down to me being European and therefore having a different cultural view, so I eventually gave up...
But he's not the only person that I've heard voice these sorts of concerns, so it's a real thing... Sadly....

 

[BrisRecky]

I must ask....any known reason why that bay on the western side is always empty?.....someone said league fans broke some seats, but that was months ago

 

[pjennings]

Monty went off injured against Wellington with what I call a veteran's in jury. A soft tissue injury, not caused by collision, but by an ageing body; they take longer to heal as the player gets older. He may be homesick, he may be upset with Moss, but he is too much of a professional to allow it to affect his attitude.

Monty has Achilles tightness, he was sitting in front of us yesterday with Micky Neil in his moon boot. Neil will be having further scans on Tuesday when hopefully the swelling has gone down. doesn't sound hopeful.

 

[Yoda]

I must ask....any known reason why that bay on the western side is always empty?.....someone said league fans broke some seats, but that was months ago

Do you mean around Bay 9-10??? If so, it is on the edge of Gold reserved tickets and GA. Noone will pay a premium for a reserved seat to sit almost on the byline when you can sit in the next bay cheaper.

 

[BrisRecky]

much thankyou very Yoda

 

[Forum Phoenix]

lol

Don't like lazy posting. Comes off as arrogant, and forces me to assume that your position is that the bulk of people on the coast know about CCM games?

I'd certainly like to hear other peoples experiences, but unfortunately this is not what my experience has taught me over the last ten years, and I have a very large network on the coast comprised of a diverse cross section. Maybe 1 in 10 people I speak to are aware that a game is on. The lead in to this game has been typical of this, barring a pretty clear push by members like myself to use their free passes.

The vast bulk of people who know about our games are clearly members and those who already care and are paying attention. It has long been this way, only shifting for large "event" games like NYE. This game despite some efforts fell short of NYE awareness from what I could tell leading in and unsurprisingly played out in numbers.

Fortunately my experience has not been that 9 out of 10 people simply have no interest in the Mariners. I'm concerned with those who like the Mariners enough to happily go to the odd game, but who do not pay attention. They are the ones we need to repeatedly connect with to try and effectively gain 2% to convert into regular attendees and then into members.

Stand up for the Mariners is a great initiative, but two and a half thousand likes with a pre existing membership of 6k, is telling as to how effective it can hope to be in reaching our wider population online. It's why I bang on about the shopping centres, marketing has to be broad, and ours is, and they do work hard - you can tell, but with a population which is not centralised, our mega centres are the best chance as they are the only thing/place the vast bulk of us have in common.

I also disagree on the crowd numbers I'm afraid. We play the guessing game every game, every season since inception. Rarely more than 1K off these days. And the pick was more than 9 but less than 11. Maybe a bit under, but not the big difference some people think. I think sitting among a solid 10K crowd again who were vocal may be colouring some peoples perception.

 

[Bladesman]

I have to agree that I don't think it was the clubs marketing that hit fans. I was out and about Saturday morning doing some shopping in my Mariners shirt. I had a number of conversations started by other people about the #standupforthemmariners and all of the people knew about the game via that from facebook and not club marketing. Problem was they all said they would have gone but we're all working until at least 5.

 

[nearlyyellow]

I have to agree that I don't think it was the clubs marketing that hit fans. I was out and about Saturday morning doing some shopping in my Mariners shirt. I had a number of conversations started by other people about the #standupforthemmariners and all of the people knew about the game via that from facebook and not club marketing. Problem was they all said they would have gone but we're all working until at least 5.

There ya bloody go! That's why my better half can only make it to 5 games this year compared to most of them last year. And she hates the heat at 5pm anyway. So, lost revenue to the club.

 

[kevrenor]

Do you mean around Bay 9-10??? If so, it is on the edge of Gold reserved tickets and GA. Noone will pay a premium for a reserved seat to sit almost on the byline when you can sit in the next bay cheaper.

Yes, used to be GA, and some idiot changed it to gold. It used to be 1/2 full, with people with young kids (like my daughter) and people of let us say a quieter disposition who want somewhere away from active support. Now, empty!!

 

[Yoda]

much thankyou very Yoda

Welcome you are.

 

[Jaundice]

Too many people who had no idea it was on.

This was a call to arms, the plight of the mariners well voiced on many mediums. Saying this after a disappointing attendance just sounds delusional to me.

Im not going to go into the nuts and bolts of the marketing/engagement argument as Ive done it to death and will just say, yes more can be done but I disagree it has been inadequate or inept to the levels suggested on this forum.

Don't like lazy posting. Comes off as arrogant, and forces me to assume that your position is that the bulk of people on the coast know about CCM games?

I think the inconvenient truth here is that the bulk of the coast will never ever give two hoots about local professional football no matter how much marketing you throw at them. Not for now anyway and not without expensive short term gimmicks.

From a personal perspective I thought it was a good crowd and a great night, loved it. Whilst the crowd is disappointing on 'proving Charlesworth wrong' what really disappoints me is that a crowd like that in a reasonable stadium like ours isn't viable for a regional club with the A leagues business model.

Lets hope the next TV deal is a good one I guess, and in the meantime maybe if the socceroos have a miracle run in the Asia cup this summer we can get a big lot of bandwagoners that want to check out football again.