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R12: Central Coast Mariners vs Brisbane Roar

ballantyne

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I'm glad my prediction was off but we're still week as piss with a flat attack and a nervous, indecisive midfield. For once it was a good time to concede on h-t. If we'd conceded on 50 we would have folded.
What is with the Bosnar goal "celebration"?
 

sydmariner

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1st half dire, highlight was the crowd standing up for the mariners at the 10 minute mark (brilliant). 2nd half much better and after the first goal we began to see that passion that used to be our trademark. I am prepared to overlook the dreadful defending for each of the 3 goals (for this time only!!!) to see that hunger again. BUT we have to sort out our defence! Adelaide, Perth, Victory would have carved us up even more so than Brisbane who did not look at their best. Thank goodness Broich was not playing today or it could have been ugly. At least I feel we have something to build upon. Really need someone up front with Matty and a central defender who controls what is happening in the back line. Maybe we also need to get a defensive consultant to come in and help the boys organised with some of the basics.
Zwaanswijk;)
 

Big Al

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Jets just gave up their point to a finkler bullet from free kick at top of box.
Overall our night wasn't that bad
 

nebakke

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I have to say, there was a poignant moment towards the end of the second, when Dukie and Matty were chasing down the ball, rolling towards a goal kick, with a couple of Roar defenders... It sort of highlighted to me some of the stuff that Duke seems to need to relearn. He was actually closer than Matty, but gave up the chase when he thought that it was going out, where Matty kept going, lunged and almost made it... If Duke had kept it up, it wouldn't have gone out. To me, it is that tenacity that has seen Matty score three in three games. Dukie had it at times, but seems to need to regain it...
 
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gull

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Yeah… what's up with that?

Conspiracy theorists please form a queue behind me…. :tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat:

Ok.

For mine the crowd was well above that figure. I thought it was around 12-13,000. I severely doubt that the ground was less than half full.

Surely the club wouldn't deliberately understate their crowd to save embarrassment?

I'll post some photos tomorrow of the Eastern stand today, and back in March 2013 when we has nearly 19,000 against WSW for comparison.
 

rbakersmith

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Surely the club wouldn't deliberately understate their crowd to save embarrassment?

I seriously doubt it - don't forget that the council owns and operates the stadium, so if the club did fudge the announced numbers I'm sure LM would call them out on it in short order.
 

scoober

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I seriously doubt it - don't forget that the council owns and operates the stadium, so if the club did fudge the announced numbers I'm sure LM would call them out on it in short order.
Apparently the system crashed and the figure was a guesstimate.
 

VicMariner

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I have to say, there was a poignant moment towards the end of the second, when Dukie and Matty were chasing down the ball, rolling towards a goal kick, with a couple of Roar defenders... It sort of highlighted to me some of the stuff that Duke seems to need to relearn. He was actually closer than Matty, but gave up the chase when he thought that it was going out, where Matty kept going, lunged and almost made it... If Duke had kept it up, it wouldn't have gone out. To me, it is that tenacity that has seen Matty score three in three games. Dukie had it at times, but seems to need to regain it...
I noticed that too nebakke.
One thing you get with Matt Simon is 100% all the time, every game.
You can't control the state of the pitch, you can't control the referee decisions and you can't control how much natural talent you're born with but you can give it everything you've got and to my mind that should be the expected minimum.
 

Capn Gus Bloodbeard

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Wow, Mariners game was a rollercoaster. Before the game I said a win is essential to capitalise on the Stand Up For The Mariners campaign - a draw wouldn't be sufficient.

But I was wrong - in the second half at least, they played more like the Mariners of old. It was entertaining, and we kept fighting. Good to hear the cannon again!

Crowd made a lot of noise, which was great to see. Glad to hear the drum is back again too. Also good to hear how much attention the commentators gave to the campaign.

Some...interesting decisions given by the referee, both ways, but I think that was his HAL debut.

I'm undecided about Duke. People still rate him but I just think he's made way, way too many unforced errors at critical moments. Having said that, I agree with the commentators that I could see him and Simon working well up front.

I think Roux is trying to do too much. Maybe it's a total formation change we need. Something like a diamond formation, 3-2-1-2-2 could go well with the players we have.

I did notice that after conceding the 2nd goal, we slipped back into our 'I have no idea what to do with the ball. Should probably just pass it backwards' mode again, but fortunately that didn't last long.

My poignant moment was that, given how pathetically negative we've played all season, after is was 3-3 Roar put all their players behind the ball to try and play for the draw, whereas we pushed everybody up, not settling for the draw. Given our mentality this season, I thought that was huge.
 

eenfish

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Simon and Dukey up front together is the key, i reckon.

Also yeah, it was the ref's debut. Commentators were making words about it and said he did alright at controlling the game for his first time in charge. The backpass call was a bit beneficial for us, and I guess the fact we didn't really deserve it excuses the lack of punishment for the encroachment for Henrique.
 

Roy Law

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The Central Coast Stands Up
This was a game which saw the people and the players of the Central Coast stand up and fight for their team. It was a game of high elation, tingling excitement and numbing exasperation. A thriller that burst into action in the second half after a cautious first half. A game for which the players should feel proud of their efforts and the supporters, almost 10,000 strong, should feel proud of their team.
Phil Moss recalled Eddie Bosnar to replace the injured Mickey Neill with Josh Rose resuming his usual role as left back. Sim started instead of Vernes; young Liam Rose made a rare appearance on the substitutes’ bench.
Brisbane pressed high from the outset, targeting John Hutchinson as the weak link. His first three touches were to misplace a pass, concede a foul, and then concede possession. Ten minutes in, and the crowd stood up for their Mariners and applause went round the ground and out on the airwaves. The players could not, yet, respond; they were struggling to stand up, only Caceres showed the skills to cope, and often resorted to desperate late lunges to try to win the ball. Sim and Bosnar quickly drew the yellow card from debutant referee Matthew Conger as their frustrations grew.
Simon had the first shot on target, for either side, but it was a soft effort, easily fielded by Jamie Young. And then Rose got the crowd to their feet with an explosive run down the left, turning back the years – not all that long ago – as he raced to the goal line but his cross came to nothing. It was a promising sign of things to come.
Young, who one trialled with the Mariners, losing out to Liam Reddy, then passed the ball out to Fitzgerald who smartly slipped the ball to Trifiro on the edge of the penalty area but his strongly hit shot did not have the width to beat the embarrassed keeper.
Simon picked up a yellow, his second late challenge, as he began to lose his cool at the way the game was going. Rose, after lovely work from Caceres and Trifiro, then burst away down the left again but Young was too good on the eventual cross.
The Mariners seemed to have worked their way back into the game, honours were beginning to even up when Brisbane took advantage of some bad luck and weak defending. A shot deflected off Anderson’s boot and fell for Solorzano who stepped past Rose’s feeble attempt at a tackle and beat Reddy to give Brisbane the lead.
As the teams went to the sheds you wondered if the Mariners, who have struggled to score goals all season, would find a way to score at least two goals. They could - and how!
The only change made by Moss was to swap the positions of Sim and Fitzgerald: Sim moving to his more natural left wing. The Mariners lifted and pressed forward and quickly won a real chance to equalise as Donachie was adjudged to have passed the ball back to Young in his penalty area. It seemed harsh but meant the Mariners had an indirect free kick directly in front of goal about fifteen yards out. The problem with an indirect kick is that the ball has to be passed to the next player to shoot and that always gives the defenders time to block the shot; almost certainly illegally but referees are rarely strong enough to enforce the rules even though this referee did make them take it twice. The shot was easily blocked. What the Mariners should have done, in hindsight, is treat the kick as direct, and take a shot, hoping for a deflection. At least it brought some humour to the proceedings.
A wonderful piece of skill from Caceres brought the Mariners level; controlling the play quite beautifully before caressing a cross for Bosnar to head home off the post. It was a goal of rare quality which had the crowd standing up again, in applause. Smoke drifted across the ground, I thought it might have been a flare, until I remembered we used to fire a canon when we scored. It has been a very long time!
Simon almost found Fitzgerald at the far post, a similar ball to that of Caceres, but it was just too long, and then Moss brought on Duke for Sim and the game exploded into life. Fitzgerald fired a strong shot which Young spectacularly parried; Duke’s first touch was a volley on goal from the rebound, Young again saved. Duke tried to force the ball home but was blocked and then Simon dug it out of the maul and banged it home. I haven’t felt such profound relief in a long time; this was the Mariners standing up for the Coast. I was just as elated as when Zwaanswijk drove a dagger into the heart of the Wanderers on Grand Final day. It meant so much to so many people.
Brisbane, though, are the nemesis of the Mariners at Bluetongue; over the years we have found it hard to put them away and it was the same today but they needed a broad slice of luck, another deflection going their way, and more inept defending as the Mariners elected to put the short Roux on the tall Donachie. The Brisbane man won the header but it deflected off Roux’ should into the net. Kim came on for the tiring Trifiro.
The Mariners were unbowed. Duke, stirring up the defenders like an outboard motor on Brisbane Water, intelligently carved them up with a forceful direct run and passed the ball to Simon who gave it a fierce wallop which Young, again, could only parry, and there was Kim to volley home with superb technique and put Mariners ahead again.
I really thought we could get another but Brisbane had other ideas and too easily carved open the defence on the left and Solorzano, despite three defenders in close proximity, turned the ball home from a yard out. It was soul destroying, and annoying, but the Mariners almost snatched the winner when Donachie had to head Duke’s bundled effort over the bar with Young nowhere.
I could easily criticise the defending today but I prefer to dwell on the joy and relief of seeing a Mariners side play with spirit and guts and stand up when it mattered. Rose got forward often, Fitzgerald was impressively lively, Duke provided a real spark and Simon, four goals in five games, showed he can never be underestimated but my MoM for a display that was all class and composure is Anthony Caceres.
 

Roy Law

Well-Known Member
Monty went off injured against Wellington with what I call a veteran's in jury. A soft tissue injury, not caused by collision, but by an ageing body; they take longer to heal as the player gets older. He may be homesick, he may be upset with Moss, but he is too much of a professional to allow it to affect his attitude.
 

nearlyyellow

Well-Known Member
9,932? My guess just before half was 11,500 to 12k. So that agrees with what others are saying. I was disappointed that it looked like we just wouldn't crack the 12k. But 9,932? If there was a problem with the count why the bloody hell don't they just say so and announce that it is an estimated 9,932 but due to equipment problems we know that there are more of you here than that!
 

BrisRecky

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
now that i'm less annoyed at another draw......how good was the sight of the boys queing up too have a go, been a while since that sort of passion was shown I think.
Agree about Duke V Matty....Dooks gives up too easy, while the East Gosford Sportsman of the Millenium just keeps on chugging along, still reckon Matty and Fitzy should be the starting two up front....still not convinced about Sim, I'd be starting Vernes ahead of him always....cant believe Kim scored, same could be said of Bosnar's semi Zwaanswijk goal.......now...the defence, or as we call them at home, Swiss and The Cheeses...someone said they need to stop passing across the goal AGREED, one day someone with initative is going to make them look real stupid while their doing that...if we can score a solid defender in the window, someone Pat like who can teach Zac and Pos what to do and when to do it..unlike Bosnar who screams and points fingers...once we sort out the defence Reddy might get back to being a solid keeper again.

as for the crowd figure, 9,932..BULLSHIT....had to be much more than that
 

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