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R11: CCM v Brisbane @ Gosford

Forum Phoenix

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Have to keep looking for the positives in seasons like this. And last season. And the season before that.;)
Like WSW match I really enjoyed the game, very open, chances both ways. It was frustrating to get so close and we deserved a point.
The style and structure continues to improve. Agree that Mickey Neill appears out of his depth this season and that Posco should be the starting RB (wherever he may be). He was being double teamed by Petratos and Borello in the first half though and not getting a lot of support down the left.

To put it into perspective though, Roar's starting 11 included 3 current Socceroos, 2 former Socceroos and a former Danish international. Their keeper has won 5 A League championships. They bring off the bench the 2 time Johnny Warren medalist and a former La Liga winger.

Love Trent, but yeah it was hard not to chuckle/groan when off the bench we bring on an 18 year old playing his first year of HAL.... and they bring on Broich. Who then for all intents and purposes goes on to win the game for them.
 

Holy

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Those teams would have a high turnover by comparison to a 27-game season A-League squad wouldn't they? First team football is always another step up.
My point is that to get into those teams, squads and academy's they would have have had plenty of coaching and I would of thought to be where they are now in a First team setup they would of been exposed to those tactics that provide your team with an advantage.
 

Forum Phoenix

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Exposed yes, but that does not go hand in hand with able.
And if they do have the skills, the increased pace of the game changes almost everything, players will lose some of even their existing skillset while they're adapting.
 
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Ancient Mariner

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My point is that to get into those teams, squads and academy's they would have have had plenty of coaching and I would of thought to be where they are now in a First team setup they would of been exposed to those tactics that provide your team with an advantage.

All very well but you learn most in "on the job training" and "you can't beat experience".

In my old profession of science you got your training during your degree, you proved yourself doing a PhD. But you did your best work as a post doc. These kids are still proving themselves with a fair way to go still. A very long way from the finished product and some will drop out not and not complete the second stage.
 

Holy

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Exposed yes, but that does not go hand in hand with able.
And if they do have the skills, the increased pace of the game changes almost everything, players will lose lose some of even their existing skillset while they're adapting.

I get that, but like you said in a previous post, it's so frustrating that the opposition is doing it to us, and we don't seem to be able to do it back.
I also get that it comes with experience at this level too, but with the background a lot of these kids have, the experiences they have had to get here, I'd like to see the smart competitor come out every now and again
 

Holy

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All very well but you learn most in "on the job training" and "you can't beat experience".

In my old profession of science you got your training during your degree, you proved yourself doing a PhD. But you did your best work as a post doc. These kids are still proving themselves with a fair way to go still. A very long way from the finished product and some will drop out not and not complete the second stage.
I guess your right. It's the difference between a fail, a pass, a credit, a distinction and honours where they sit at the moment
 

dibo

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In other news, I finally got to the pre-match function - good spot down there; they should organise for it to be part of the stadium itself so you can wander in for a casual drink and then stroll to your seats.

Anyway, had a Six String Pale on tap there - it's a pretty typical hoppy pale. Pretty floral and bitter. Last time I had it was with pizza and it was fantastic because the hops balance against the pizza. Would also go well with fish and chips, a meat pie or a sausage sandwich - anything with some fat to it to balance against.

For a pre-match beer without food I will try the lager or the golden ale next time though.
 

Holy

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In other news, I finally got to the pre-match function - good spot down there; they should organise for it to be part of the stadium itself so you can wander in for a casual drink and then stroll to your seats.

Anyway, had a Six String Pale on tap there - it's a pretty typical hoppy pale. Pretty floral and bitter. Last time I had it was with pizza and it was fantastic because the hops balance against the pizza. Would also go well with fish and chips, a meat pie or a sausage sandwich - anything with some fat to it to balance against.

For a pre-match beer without food I will try the lager or the golden ale next time though.
Go the golden ale, it's not a bad drop
 

Wombat

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Go the golden ale, it's not a bad drop

Yeah Golden ale is weaker but far more palatable. I'm tipping if the beer needs food to be consumed (same as some beers needs a lemon or lime jammed in the neck to give them any sort of appeal) at the same time to make it pleasurable.....its not the worlds' greatest brew!!
It was an excellent review though Dibo, and i'm not being a smart arse.
Credit to six Strings for some clever marketing. Their beer will only get better.


In other news, I finally got to the pre-match function - good spot down there; they should organise for it to be part of the stadium itself so you can wander in for a casual drink and then stroll to your seats.

Anyway, had a Six String Pale on tap there - it's a pretty typical hoppy pale. Pretty floral and bitter. Last time I had it was with pizza and it was fantastic because the hops balance against the pizza. Would also go well with fish and chips, a meat pie or a sausage sandwich - anything with some fat to it to balance against.......THE FOUL TASTE

For a pre-match beer without food I will try the lager or the golden ale next time though.
 

Big Al

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Thanks for that. Did roses arm leave his body and move deliberately towards the ball?.
Yes his arm was more like an umpires in cricket giving a wide. Definitely unnatural position. The ball more hit him from a rickoshay. If it was in the box and u didn't get a penalty you would be spewing
 

Big Al

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My point is that to get into those teams, squads and academy's they would have have had plenty of coaching and I would of thought to be where they are now in a First team setup they would of been exposed to those tactics that provide your team with an advantage.
You can lead them to water but can't make them drink.

Sometimes the best have natural talent that can't be taught as well.

A feel for a game can make a less talented player more valuable

All the coaching can't make Mickey run his arse off to get back
 

Wombat

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You can lead them to water but can't make them drink.

Sometimes the best have natural talent that can't be taught as well.

A feel for a game can make a less talented player more valuable

All the coaching can't make Mickey run his arse off to get back


It can.
 

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