New stadium for Mariners?

[Gav...]

I did hear of a multimillion dollar facilty for the mariners to be built on the northern central coast a while ago in the media, i think it was about july last year.

 

[Bear]

New stadium, no

Training facilities, with apartments for trialists, guests, sponsors ect, fields for training, gym, pool, and much more as promised by Mr Gorman at last years end of season function, yes

I say IMHO that at this early stage of the a-league, talk of a custom built stadium, on the central coast, is total bs. With Gorman saying that the facilities iv mentioned above will be built at Tuggerah, it points to me that that is where the plans are heading.

 

[kevrenor]

New stadium, no

Training facilities, with apartments for trialists, guests, sponsors ect, fields for training, gym, pool, and much more as promised by Mr Gorman at last years end of season function, yes

I say IMHO that at this early stage of the a-league, talk of a custom built stadium, on the central coast, is total bs. With Gorman saying that the facilities iv mentioned above will be built at Tuggerah, it points to me that that is where the plans are heading.

Would be good to have a decent pitch, with covered seating for say 1,000 - for training of course - but also for off-week W-League and NYL, trials, and Lightning, or even for big Penang games to be played on.

 

[clarence]

New stadium, no

Training facilities, with apartments for trialists, guests, sponsors ect, fields for training, gym, pool, and much more as promised by Mr Gorman at last years end of season function, yes

I say IMHO that at this early stage of the a-league, talk of a custom built stadium, on the central coast, is total bs. With Gorman saying that the facilities iv mentioned above will be built at Tuggerah, it points to me that that is where the plans are heading.

Would be good to have a decent pitch, with covered seating for say 1,000 - for training of course - but also for off-week W-League and NYL, trials, and Lightning, or even for big Penang games to be played on.

Yes, yes, yes this would be a very good idea, but I would like to think they'd get enough land to set aside for a 35K Stadium in that development. Who knows what will happen in the future, but the Mariners should be planning for far into the future on a positive note.

So, they should be thinking of eventually having their own Stadium.

If, at the moment, they have the potential to get a lot of land at Tuggerah, they should take that dream into account and set it aside for the future.

In the meantime, develop the site with apartments, training facilities, grounds and small stands encasing a showcase stadium of maybe 5K. Their alliance with the likes of Sao Paolo and Sheffield, will help them figure out what type of facilities will be needed up front by visiting their clubs and seeing what they have built - or have planned.

 

[goingtoadisco]

Training facilities, with apartments for trialists, guests, sponsors ect, fields for training, gym, pool, and much more as promised by Mr Gorman at last years end of season function, yes

I would think that this is the plan. Im sorry to dissapoint but it makes no sense at all to build another stadium on the coast.

If any stadiums are going to built for the world cup it will be an upgrade to bluetongue to include a grandstand over the road.

 

[Jesus]

I doubt they would build a stadium yet. But i would not rule out them leaving ample room on bought propety to build a stadium in the future. I dont think bluey would continue if a new stadium was built.

If that were the case i would think that if WC bid successful it would be very likely, with bluey being sold to developers once it is completed.

Dont forget this would not be completed even if it went quick through planning/epa etc for surely 5-8 years. At that time we should be really filling bluey constantly

 

[dibo]

Training facilities, with apartments for trialists, guests, sponsors ect, fields for training, gym, pool, and much more as promised by Mr Gorman at last years end of season function, yes

I would think that this is the plan. Im sorry to dissapoint but it makes no sense at all to build another stadium on the coast.

If any stadiums are going to built for the world cup it will be an upgrade to bluetongue to include a grandstand over the road.

[Short version]

It would be cheaper and more effective to build new from the ground up with the appropriate standard of media, corporate, players and officials facilities, not to mention allowing for the required surrounding secure precinct, better parking, access and egress

[Long version]

You cant just build over the road the minimum clearance would be something like 6m that means that seats will be starting something like 8m in the air once youve engineered all the structural supports.

Consider also that the bridge hasnt yet touched ground by the time its level with the western touchline, so the SW corner is seriously problematic. This is before we get to the fact that the palm trees are heritage listed.

Then add to that the NW corner, which is already hemmed in by the proximity to the railway line (its not a full corner matching the NE corner its cut short).

And even if you could ignore all the obstructions and simply build up a second tier all the way around the ground in the fashion of the present grandstands, youd still be some way short of hitting the required 40k itd be at most about the size of White Hart Lane. Youre then stuck with ripping the roof off the existing stands and re-engineering them from the ground up to whack a third tier on top

 

[marinermick]

the stadium was bulit poorly to begin with, it is now ten years old and there is no proper space for expansion

given all the proper above said facilities needed for a modern stadium, a new one would be economically viable

however, no world cup, no new stadium

isn't also some world cup stipulation that a stadium needs to be within one hour of an international airport?

 

[kevrenor]

The stadium was bulit poorly to begin with, it is now ten years old and there is no proper space for expansion. Given all the proper above said facilities needed for a modern stadium, a new one would be economically viable. However, no world cup, no new stadium.
Isn't also some world cup stipulation that a stadium needs to be within one hour of an international airport?

Oh goody, a high speed train too! 

 

[bikinigirl]

The stadium was bulit poorly to begin with, it is now ten years old and there is no proper space for expansion. Given all the proper above said facilities needed for a modern stadium, a new one would be economically viable. However, no world cup, no new stadium.
Isn't also some world cup stipulation that a stadium needs to be within one hour of an international airport?

Oh goody, a high speed train too! 

. beat me to it - i was also gunna say it would be funded by the mariners 

. how about a fast ferry into tuggerah lake, its been quiet on the fast ferry front for a while 

 

[midfielder]

Risky move if true ............ many fans come from northern areas of Sydney, many former NS fans come. I recall a poll on the old site asking people were they came from and I think about 25% of people were travelling from Sydney. I do along with three others, and I know people who come from Blacktown that extra travelling especially on Friday night games will stop some coming.

 

[dibo]

the stadium was bulit poorly to begin with, it is now ten years old and there is no proper space for expansion

to be fair to the original designers:

- a world cup bid (let alone a world cup actually being held in australia) was as remote a thought as gough whitlam stumping for john howard. we didn't even have a full-time professional league at the time, and we were still two world cups away from qualifying for one;

- it was designed first and foremost for a rugby league team. compared to the majority of NRL grounds it's practically palatial (seen townsville, campbelltown, leichhardt, brookvale, woolooware, kogarah, woolongong or penrith lately?), and the NRL is not and has not been for decades a sport with massive growth potential. crowd averages are steady at their long-term average and that number fits comfortably in BTS.

- the idea of the ground was as a boutique venue rather than as a large and expandable site.

it's a ground that would have served its purpose admirably, but with the growth of the central coast and the mariners in particular, there will come a time when it's no longer suitable.

as mick's said, don't read too much into the sub 11k season opening crowd. this opening six weeks will be snowed under by other sports. we need clear air before we fly. all that said, i expect us to average over 10k for our first three matches, and if we're going remotely well we may average 15k from october through to january.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Just build a roof over the open end and I will be happy............

 

[dibo]

Just build a roof over the open end and I will be happy............

QFT!

 

[Auburn Mariner]

isn't also some world cup stipulation that a stadium needs to be within one hour of an international airport?

Williamtown is within an hour if Simon Fisher is driving!!

 

[Alicia]

isn't also some world cup stipulation that a stadium needs to be within one hour of an international airport?

Williamtown is within an hour if Simone Fisher is driving!!

Fixed for you 

 

[marinermick]

isn't also some world cup stipulation that a stadium needs to be within one hour of an international airport?

Williamtown is within an hour if Simon Fisher is driving!!

or from camberra!!!!

 

[bulldogmariner]

In Germany Kaiserlautern was only need Frankfurt which was 1.5 hours away on train so not to sure about an airport being close by.
But the federal government is looking for a second international airport in sydney why no build it up the top of the plains.

A stadium has to be able to hold 40000 to host a world cup match and their is no way BT could be redevloped to match that.
Hope the make EAS in Newcastle the right size or that will be even a bigger waste of money as they would have to do further redevelopment when we host the FIFA WORLD CUP in 2022!

 

[soundsdifferent]

can nyone confirm if any of this is true or just something someone has made up?

 

[Paolo]

can nyone confirm if any of this is true or just something someone has made up?

spoke to lyall gorman, told me its true, 37 000 capacity.....spread the news