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Mariners W-League
- Thread starter kevrenor
- Start date
As far as I'm aware, the state bodies funding the wleague clubs was a stop gap measure only, with the intent of their local aleague clubs bringing them under their wing? I remember something about victory doing so, but no other thus far. I've previously read the jets boss stating his refusal to ever want anything to do with the wleague and there seems to be of little interest from others.
The clubs benefit to a degree through the national television exposure of their club brand and colours, when in reality, that's all they have in common.
I would also ask what the result would be if other state bodies decided their funding was also too large an impost to continue? If Sydney, Roar and/or others were in the same boat in the future.
So what's the intentions of the ffa and do they have an actual policy, or just ad-hock decisions based on a premise?
The clubs benefit to a degree through the national television exposure of their club brand and colours, when in reality, that's all they have in common.
I would also ask what the result would be if other state bodies decided their funding was also too large an impost to continue? If Sydney, Roar and/or others were in the same boat in the future.
So what's the intentions of the ffa and do they have an actual policy, or just ad-hock decisions based on a premise?
hasbeen
Well-Known Member
Central Coast Mariners
Media Release
Thursday, 29 July
Statement regarding Westfield W-League
The Central Coast Mariners have expressed their disappointment at not being included in this seasons Westfield W-League, following todays announcement of the revamped competition.
Unfortunately we were unable to secure the funding support that we had enjoyed for the first two seasons and therefore we will concentrate our efforts in supporting our local association to further develop Womens football on the Central Coast. We certainly hope that the Mariners would again be able to enter a team in next years competition, said Mariners Chief Executive Officer John McKay.
McKay went on to pay tribute to Stephen Roche, who guided the side through the first two seasons.
Steve, his support staff and the players have done a great job over the last two seasons which culminated in qualification for the semi finals last season. We would like to thank everyone who has been involved and acknowledge the support provided by Football NSW who provided the majority of funding and resources to operate the team.
Football is enormously popular on the Central Coast, something that is reflected both in our own crowd demographics and in Central Coast Footballs registrations, and we would certainly hope we could be involved in the Westfield W-League in the future.
Ends
Media Release
Thursday, 29 July
Statement regarding Westfield W-League
The Central Coast Mariners have expressed their disappointment at not being included in this seasons Westfield W-League, following todays announcement of the revamped competition.
Unfortunately we were unable to secure the funding support that we had enjoyed for the first two seasons and therefore we will concentrate our efforts in supporting our local association to further develop Womens football on the Central Coast. We certainly hope that the Mariners would again be able to enter a team in next years competition, said Mariners Chief Executive Officer John McKay.
McKay went on to pay tribute to Stephen Roche, who guided the side through the first two seasons.
Steve, his support staff and the players have done a great job over the last two seasons which culminated in qualification for the semi finals last season. We would like to thank everyone who has been involved and acknowledge the support provided by Football NSW who provided the majority of funding and resources to operate the team.
Football is enormously popular on the Central Coast, something that is reflected both in our own crowd demographics and in Central Coast Footballs registrations, and we would certainly hope we could be involved in the Westfield W-League in the future.
Ends
yellowcake
Well-Known Member
Odd, I'd thought funding basically came from outside CCM and the connection was a branding thing, FFA's idea to help promote the league. Obviously the funding model's been changed.hasbeen said:
And sad, I was still satisfied that they pulled on yellow with pride in the shirt. Quite enjoyed watching them on the few occasions. Renee Rollason
hope she gets a good gig somewhere.
MagpieMariner
Well-Known Member
Very disappointing.
I enjoyed watching them last season.
Enjoyed their football, too.
I enjoyed watching them last season.
Enjoyed their football, too.
kevrenor
Well-Known Member
Four-Four-Two
Aidan Ormond
Jul 30 2010
EXCLUSIVE: Central Coast Mariners coach Steve Roche says hes stunned at the decision to axe the team from the W-League despite players putting their lives on hold for the club.
In a statement, FFA said today that due to funding issues the Mariners were axed from the new W-League season kicking off in November.
Roche was fuming after he was told of the decision.
"I'm gutted for the players more than anything," he told au.fourfourtwo.com. "Shattered. They do shitty jobs like working at Maccas, move from place to place to save money to enable them to do this for no money.
"They put their lives on hold, relationships, study, the lot and bust a gut to train at the level they do for the W-League. Now this."
It's believed funding issues have been around for a while but Roche believed that this late in the season the team would be safe for another year.
Yesterday he had the difficult job of telling his players their dream was over.
He forecast that some players may be lost to the game all together, such would be the level of disappointment felt amongst his squad.
"It'll be almost impossible for many of the players to find spots in other clubs this late on," he said.
"Sydney is well organised but there are the Jets, otherwise they'd have to travel interstate. But that's very difficult when there's no money in it."
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Aidan Ormond
Jul 30 2010
EXCLUSIVE: NSW powerhouse Illawarra Stingrays are ready to step up to the W-League following Central Coast Mariners withdrawal from the competition, say local officials.
In a statement, FFA said today that due to funding issues the Mariners will not be part of the new W-League season kicking off in November.
It's a blow for the club's players with a number - including star striker Michelle Heyman - eyeing up places in the national team for next year's World Cup.
And while Heyman is sure to be snapped up swiftly, it offers an opportunity for south coast to press their claims with their NSW champion Illawarra Stingrays - a team going for their third NSW Premier League title in a row.
In a week when the south coast region's governing body spoke of their long-term plan for an A-League club exclusively on au.fourfourtwo.com, part of those plans were to host W-League games.
It was in response to a boom in female registrations on the south coast, up 18 percent, claimed south coast football.
And the region has a ready-made, well organised and successful structure already in place with the Stingrays.
Bill Drossos, an advisor/director of Football South Coast on W-League, A-League and FFA relations, told au.fourfourtwo.com today's that they will seek a meeting with Grantham to press their claims for inclusion in the 2010 W-League.
"Time's not on our side but luckily we have a structure in place, a booming club with real growth in numbers and yes this is a chance to showcase what the south coast can do," he said.
A number of Stingrays - a club set up by former Matilda turned TV star Amy Taylor - played for Central Coast last season including the highly talented Heyman.
"On the south coast, our female players are very engaged with the community and you've just got to look at the crowd for last season's NSW Premier League grand final of around 2500 to realise we'd be a strong addition to the W-League," said Drossos
He was confident south coast would not need the financial backing of Football NSW to get their team up for the new season, which kicks off in November.
"I'd think we'd be more than capable of filling the void left by the Mariners," he added. "Yes, we'll be putting our case forward."
In a timely move, national coach Tom Sermanni and a selection of Matildas will visit the south coast region next week as part of a pre-planned visit.
And it's been confirmed that Sydney FC will play a couple of W-League games at WIN Stadium this season as part of an alliance agreement signed by the A-League club and football south coast.
Aidan Ormond
Jul 30 2010
EXCLUSIVE: Central Coast Mariners coach Steve Roche says hes stunned at the decision to axe the team from the W-League despite players putting their lives on hold for the club.
In a statement, FFA said today that due to funding issues the Mariners were axed from the new W-League season kicking off in November.
Roche was fuming after he was told of the decision.
"I'm gutted for the players more than anything," he told au.fourfourtwo.com. "Shattered. They do shitty jobs like working at Maccas, move from place to place to save money to enable them to do this for no money.
"They put their lives on hold, relationships, study, the lot and bust a gut to train at the level they do for the W-League. Now this."
It's believed funding issues have been around for a while but Roche believed that this late in the season the team would be safe for another year.
Yesterday he had the difficult job of telling his players their dream was over.
He forecast that some players may be lost to the game all together, such would be the level of disappointment felt amongst his squad.
"It'll be almost impossible for many of the players to find spots in other clubs this late on," he said.
"Sydney is well organised but there are the Jets, otherwise they'd have to travel interstate. But that's very difficult when there's no money in it."
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Aidan Ormond
Jul 30 2010
EXCLUSIVE: NSW powerhouse Illawarra Stingrays are ready to step up to the W-League following Central Coast Mariners withdrawal from the competition, say local officials.
In a statement, FFA said today that due to funding issues the Mariners will not be part of the new W-League season kicking off in November.
It's a blow for the club's players with a number - including star striker Michelle Heyman - eyeing up places in the national team for next year's World Cup.
And while Heyman is sure to be snapped up swiftly, it offers an opportunity for south coast to press their claims with their NSW champion Illawarra Stingrays - a team going for their third NSW Premier League title in a row.
In a week when the south coast region's governing body spoke of their long-term plan for an A-League club exclusively on au.fourfourtwo.com, part of those plans were to host W-League games.
It was in response to a boom in female registrations on the south coast, up 18 percent, claimed south coast football.
And the region has a ready-made, well organised and successful structure already in place with the Stingrays.
Bill Drossos, an advisor/director of Football South Coast on W-League, A-League and FFA relations, told au.fourfourtwo.com today's that they will seek a meeting with Grantham to press their claims for inclusion in the 2010 W-League.
"Time's not on our side but luckily we have a structure in place, a booming club with real growth in numbers and yes this is a chance to showcase what the south coast can do," he said.
A number of Stingrays - a club set up by former Matilda turned TV star Amy Taylor - played for Central Coast last season including the highly talented Heyman.
"On the south coast, our female players are very engaged with the community and you've just got to look at the crowd for last season's NSW Premier League grand final of around 2500 to realise we'd be a strong addition to the W-League," said Drossos
He was confident south coast would not need the financial backing of Football NSW to get their team up for the new season, which kicks off in November.
"I'd think we'd be more than capable of filling the void left by the Mariners," he added. "Yes, we'll be putting our case forward."
In a timely move, national coach Tom Sermanni and a selection of Matildas will visit the south coast region next week as part of a pre-planned visit.
And it's been confirmed that Sydney FC will play a couple of W-League games at WIN Stadium this season as part of an alliance agreement signed by the A-League club and football south coast.
midfielder
Well-Known Member
Please excuse my not quite understanding ... but did we withdraw the funds ... so we left it until this late to tell them or did we not get funded ...
kevrenor
Well-Known Member
ABC just did a piece on it - FNSW says they only committed for 2 years and they must look after our own womens comps, and Riverstone development.
Excellent artcile in 442 here:
http://au.fourfourtwo.com/blogs.aspx?CIaBEID=1916
The Canary in W-League's coalmine
Fiona Crawford
Jul 30 2010 14:55
Comment now
I've spent a lot of time wondering whether Season 3 of the W-League would involve:
a) a longer season
b) extra teams
c) more TV coverage
I thought at least one of them would come off in the W-League's slow-and-steady approach to building a sustainable league, especially given the Matildas' recent Asian Cup campaign success (In case you missed the heart-stopping 5-4 victory on penalties against Korea, which saw them crowned the champions of all of Asia, they've now surpassed the Socceroos' level footballing achievements).
It never occurred to me that not only would the W-League not grow slightly in some capacity, it would go backwards.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't more than a little gutted to hear that the Central Coast Mariners W-League teamthe team that gave the apparently unbeatable Roar Women a run for their money in Season 2, that took out the Minor Premiership, and that boasted the league's Golden Boot, Michelle Heymanwon't be lining up to defend their achievements come kick off on November 5.
I'd be lying if I wasn't more than a little jaded that while the men's clubs (Adelaide United and Brisbane Roar spring to mind) are deemed worthy of a financial helping hand, one of the most successful teams in the fledgling W-League isn't.
I'd be lying if I wasn't extremely worried about what this means for women's football in Australia in coming years, most pressingly for the Matildas' preparation for the 2011 Women's World Cup, which starts in just under 12 months' time in Germany.
But I'd also be lying if I said I didn't know how this happened.
Despite being affiliated with the Gosford-based club, the Central Coast Mariners W-League team was actually based in Sydney. Not only did the team not train on the Central Coast, it rarely even played there as some bright spark somewhere had decided that while other clubs would have a home base, the Central Coast would play a sort of roving role in the league.
Ironically, given that the A-League Central Coast Mariners team is well-known as having strong community ties, with showcase-style games played in various locations, the W-League team never developed anything of the sort. When they did play up the coast, few people knew about the matches. Even fewer cared.
The issue is that the Central Coast Mariners team is the first W-League casualtythere will be more if something fundamental doesn't change about a league that cannot, under its current set-up, succeed. Which brings me to my first points about what the W-League needs at least one of the following, stat:
a) a longer season
b) more teams
c) more TV coverage.
A 10-week season is far, far, far too short to develop a following, even for teams playing at their home grounds. Assuming that everyone plays an evenly split number of home and away games, fans can, at best, see their team play at home a paltry five times. A seven-team comp is not to be sneezed at, but at least one team will have a bye each week, which means fewer games and fewer chances to support teams in an already-too-short season.
Without adequate TV coverage, fans can't get a sense of what's happening in the league and they can'tshort of being able to afford to fly to away locationsconsistently follow or support their teams. Which returns us to the old chestnut: if a game is played but nobody sees it, did it happen?
What should also be noted is that W-League teams have salary caps in name onlymany of the players aren't even getting paid. Yes, there are flights, uniform, and running costs required for each team, but it's embarrassingly pithy when you think that most the stars of the whole shebang are not drawing a single cent from the pot.
It's particularly galling given how much money is being thrown at the 2022 World Cup Bid and how much money was thrown at the FIFA Fan Fest around Darling Harbour. I can personally attest that I visited the most pristine-clean port-a-loos ever at that site while I was there for the Street Soccer National Titles. In spite of a brilliant set-up, Darling Harbour was a veritable ghost town after Australia went down to Germany in that game.
Without some solid changes to the league soon, there will be flow-on effects for women's football. Fewer teams and fewer broadcast games mean fewer opportunities for female footballers to train and play. It means fewer opportunities to be selected to play in other (often paying) professional leagues, and fewer to succeed at the 2011 Women's World Cup.
The loss of the Central Coast Mariners W-League team is, quite simply, the canary in the female footballing coalmine. We need c) more TV coverage sooner rather than later, and to then, slowly and steadily, add in a) and b).
Excellent artcile in 442 here:
http://au.fourfourtwo.com/blogs.aspx?CIaBEID=1916
The Canary in W-League's coalmine
Fiona Crawford
Jul 30 2010 14:55
Comment now
I've spent a lot of time wondering whether Season 3 of the W-League would involve:
a) a longer season
b) extra teams
c) more TV coverage
I thought at least one of them would come off in the W-League's slow-and-steady approach to building a sustainable league, especially given the Matildas' recent Asian Cup campaign success (In case you missed the heart-stopping 5-4 victory on penalties against Korea, which saw them crowned the champions of all of Asia, they've now surpassed the Socceroos' level footballing achievements).
It never occurred to me that not only would the W-League not grow slightly in some capacity, it would go backwards.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't more than a little gutted to hear that the Central Coast Mariners W-League teamthe team that gave the apparently unbeatable Roar Women a run for their money in Season 2, that took out the Minor Premiership, and that boasted the league's Golden Boot, Michelle Heymanwon't be lining up to defend their achievements come kick off on November 5.
I'd be lying if I wasn't more than a little jaded that while the men's clubs (Adelaide United and Brisbane Roar spring to mind) are deemed worthy of a financial helping hand, one of the most successful teams in the fledgling W-League isn't.
I'd be lying if I wasn't extremely worried about what this means for women's football in Australia in coming years, most pressingly for the Matildas' preparation for the 2011 Women's World Cup, which starts in just under 12 months' time in Germany.
But I'd also be lying if I said I didn't know how this happened.
Despite being affiliated with the Gosford-based club, the Central Coast Mariners W-League team was actually based in Sydney. Not only did the team not train on the Central Coast, it rarely even played there as some bright spark somewhere had decided that while other clubs would have a home base, the Central Coast would play a sort of roving role in the league.
Ironically, given that the A-League Central Coast Mariners team is well-known as having strong community ties, with showcase-style games played in various locations, the W-League team never developed anything of the sort. When they did play up the coast, few people knew about the matches. Even fewer cared.
The issue is that the Central Coast Mariners team is the first W-League casualtythere will be more if something fundamental doesn't change about a league that cannot, under its current set-up, succeed. Which brings me to my first points about what the W-League needs at least one of the following, stat:
a) a longer season
b) more teams
c) more TV coverage.
A 10-week season is far, far, far too short to develop a following, even for teams playing at their home grounds. Assuming that everyone plays an evenly split number of home and away games, fans can, at best, see their team play at home a paltry five times. A seven-team comp is not to be sneezed at, but at least one team will have a bye each week, which means fewer games and fewer chances to support teams in an already-too-short season.
Without adequate TV coverage, fans can't get a sense of what's happening in the league and they can'tshort of being able to afford to fly to away locationsconsistently follow or support their teams. Which returns us to the old chestnut: if a game is played but nobody sees it, did it happen?
What should also be noted is that W-League teams have salary caps in name onlymany of the players aren't even getting paid. Yes, there are flights, uniform, and running costs required for each team, but it's embarrassingly pithy when you think that most the stars of the whole shebang are not drawing a single cent from the pot.
It's particularly galling given how much money is being thrown at the 2022 World Cup Bid and how much money was thrown at the FIFA Fan Fest around Darling Harbour. I can personally attest that I visited the most pristine-clean port-a-loos ever at that site while I was there for the Street Soccer National Titles. In spite of a brilliant set-up, Darling Harbour was a veritable ghost town after Australia went down to Germany in that game.
Without some solid changes to the league soon, there will be flow-on effects for women's football. Fewer teams and fewer broadcast games mean fewer opportunities for female footballers to train and play. It means fewer opportunities to be selected to play in other (often paying) professional leagues, and fewer to succeed at the 2011 Women's World Cup.
The loss of the Central Coast Mariners W-League team is, quite simply, the canary in the female footballing coalmine. We need c) more TV coverage sooner rather than later, and to then, slowly and steadily, add in a) and b).
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