Mariners V Wellington

[Deej]

Going to get a flogging for saying this but I'd give Porter another chance at RB, he knows just like everyone he had a shocker against Newcastle. In his defence he hadn't played RB all year (incl youth) and then was asked to jump in and do a job, sadly for him for didn't play at his best. First 2 games of the year he did 'ok' at CB, a position which certainly isn't his strongest and I personally remember him playing RB many times and doing well, in particular his crossing and work rate.

Wilko is a CB, we need him there IMHO, I don't know enough about Oates to comment as I've only seen 2 youth games this year, everyone needs a chance, perhaps he's good enough perhaps he's not, Arnie can decide that.

-------------Pasfield
Porter----Wilko----Dutchy------Rose
-------------Griffiths
--WeeMac-----------------Hutch
--------------Rogic
-------Kwas----------McBreen

I don't like McBreen up front, I much prefer him off the bench to throw some muscle around in the final 20 mins, if Sutton is fit, ready and good enough throw him in to start. Defences don't know anything about him, it could work in our favour?

I also thought Ibini looked more desperate coming off the bench, again I'd leave him there for this 1.

 

[scottmac]

Going to get a flogging for saying this but I'd give Porter another chance at RB, he knows just like everyone he had a shocker against Newcastle. In his defence he hadn't played RB all year (incl youth) and then was asked to jump in and do a job, sadly for him for didn't play at his best. First 2 games of the year he did 'ok' at CB, a position which certainly isn't his strongest and I personally remember him playing RB many times and doing well, in particular his crossing and work rate.

Wilko is a CB, we need him there IMHO, I don't know enough about Oates to comment as I've only seen 2 youth games this year, everyone needs a chance, perhaps he's good enough perhaps he's not, Arnie can decide that.

-------------Pasfield
Porter----Wilko----Dutchy------Rose
-------------Griffiths
--WeeMac-----------------Hutch
--------------Rogic
-------Kwas----------McBreen

I don't like McBreen up front, I much prefer him off the bench to throw some muscle around in the final 20 mins, if Sutton is fit, ready and good enough throw him in to start. Defences don't know anything about him, it could work in our favour?

I also thought Ibini looked more desperate coming off the bench, again I'd leave him there for this 1.

I agree. Porter needs another chance but i'd be doubtfull about giving it to him in this game. Maybe the midweek game against GCU

 

[Marquee]

Sutton cleared to play. Also Moss says Pedj is a good chance to return which is great news.

 

[bikinigirl]

Also Moss says Pedj is a good chance to return which is great news.

. if true, the guy truly is a machine (from season ending to one week) irate:

 

[midfielder]

. if true, the guy truly is a machine (from season ending to one week) irate:

from one year contract too two year contract ...

 

[scottmac]

from one year contract too two year contract ...

I haven't seen any confirmation of that.

 

[MrCelery]

Central Coast Mariners v Wellington Phoenix, Bluetongue Stadium, Saturday 5.30pm (EDT), Fox Sports 1HD

Central Coast Mariners
2. Daniel Mcbreen, 3. Joshua Rose, 4. Pedj Bojic, 5. Brad Porter, 6. Patrick Zwaanswijk, 7. John Hutchinson, 8. Rostyn Griffiths, 9. Bernie Ibini, 10. Adriano Pellegrino, 12. Troy Hearfield, 13. Stuart Musialik, 14. Michael Mcglinchey, 15. Brad Mcdonald, 17. Tomas Rogic, 18. Alex Wilkinson (C), 19. John Sutton, 20. Justin Pasfield (Gk), 23. Adam Kwasnik, 24. Mitchell Duke, 31. Brody Crane (Gk) *Five To Be Omitted*

In: Pedj Bojic (returns from injury), Brad Porter (promoted), Troy Hearfield (returns from injury), Stuart Musialik (promoted), Brad Mcdonald (promoted), Mitchell Duke (promoted), John Sutton
Out: Trent Sainsbury, Sam Gallagher (both suspended)
Unavailable: Mathew Ryan, Oliver Bozanic, Mustafa Amini (All Qantas Australian U23 Duty)

Wellington Phoenix
1. Mark Paston (GK), 3. Tony Lochhead, 4. Brent Griffiths, 7. Leo Bertos, 8. Paul Ifill, 9. Chris Greenacre, 11. Daniel, 12. Nicky Ward, 14. Mirjan Pavlovic, 17. Vince Lia, 18. Ben Sigmund, 19. Jimmy Downey, 20, Tony Warner (GK), 21. Dani Sanchez, 24. Alex Smith

In: Brent Griffiths (promoted), Mirjan Pavlovic (promoted), Manny Muscat (returns from suspension), Nicky Ward (returns from injury)
Out: Tim Brown, Andrew Durante (both suspended – 1 match)
Unavailable: Cameron Lindsay (international duty), Lucas Pantelis (knee injury – indefinite)

Referee: Strebre Delovski


Pedj back.

I think we'll get a fair shake from Strebre.

 

[neverwozza]

Going to get a flogging for saying this but I'd give Porter another chance at RB,

I would love to see him get another chance and carve. He is far from my favourite player but I think this week is the ideal time to bring him in at RB. I just think the kid (is he a kid anymore) has a serious case of the yips and once he gets past that will make a very decent squaddie.

 

[Wombat]

Going to get a flogging for saying this but I'd give Porter another chance at RB, he knows just like everyone he had a shocker against Newcastle. In his defence he hadn't played RB all year (incl youth) and then was asked to jump in and do a job, sadly for him for didn't play at his best. First 2 games of the year he did 'ok' at CB, a position which certainly isn't his strongest and I personally remember him playing RB many times and doing well, in particular his crossing and work rate.

Wilko is a CB, we need him there IMHO, I don't know enough about Oates to comment as I've only seen 2 youth games this year, everyone needs a chance, perhaps he's good enough perhaps he's not, Arnie can decide that.

-------------Pasfield
Porter----Wilko----Dutchy------Rose
-------------Griffiths
--WeeMac-----------------Hutch
--------------Rogic
-------Kwas----------McBreen

I don't like McBreen up front, I much prefer him off the bench to throw some muscle around in the final 20 mins, if Sutton is fit, ready and good enough throw him in to start. Defences don't know anything about him, it could work in our favour?

I also thought Ibini looked more desperate coming off the bench, again I'd leave him there for this 1.

Yep you do deserve a flogging for that!! Played there twice and cost us two games. Porter is a decent squaddie but NOT as a makeshift defender......never again.

Sutton should definately start. We have been completely toothless without Simon and he should prove a big step up from our current strikers. I would definately start Bernie with him. The two best strikers start....simple as.

-------------Pasfield
Pedj----Wilko----Dutchy------Rose
-------------Griffiths
--WeeMac-----------------Hutch
--------------McBreen
-------Sutton----------Bernie

If that team starts we will win.

 

[dibo]

Give Porter a go. He's set to come good.

 

[Wombat]

Lovely bloke and a decent midfielder but he is not a defenders arse.

Its not his fault he has been asked to play out of position but Arnie should cut his losses and leave well alone.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

I have no problem with Porter at RB. Anyone who has watched for 7 seasons will know him as competent there. He has played this position almost exclusively with the Mariners even though he was a junior midfielder.

Playing him there will allow Wilko to remain CB and Hutchi to be LM.

Play players in their correct positions rather than pull the team aroun to cover one gap.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Sorry, but I'm entirely with Wombat on this one. Brad is an able midfielder and very likeable mariner, but, and being kind, the pressure of defence has proved very much beyond him this year. He has had his chances, and with them has made multiple critical, unforced, errors. We are not home yet. And there's a lot on the line and to play for, and based purely on performances, Brad does not merit a start imo.

If Pedj is anything but full fitness. I'd be looking at Hearfield to RB.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

I have no problem with Porter at RB. Anyone who has watched for 7 seasons will know him as competent there. He has played this position almost exclusively with the Mariners even though he was a junior midfielder.

Playing him there will allow Wilko to remain CB and Hutchi to be LM.

Play players in their correct positions rather than pull the team aroun to cover one gap.

I don't think he's ever looked comfortable at RB Ancient. His best performances at RB were when we were on the front foot and he was playing far more like an RM. I've watched him all seven, and your right, he has had a couple of bright patches, but players have to be judged on current performances, and sadly this year I believe he has clearly been our worst player.

 

[true believer]

Lovely bloke and a decent midfielder but he is not a defenders arse

absolutely

 

[Deej]

If Pedj is fit then of course he's automatic first choice, if Sainsbury wasn't suspended then automatic second choice, but if both are out I don't understand why you'd play someone there who has trained all season as a striker or attacking midfielder? He'd need to adapt to his new role very quickly and if he had a bad game wouldn't some people be on his back very quickly!

Oh and Wombat he played there once this year he was thrown in as a CB for the first 3 rounds of the year, he hardly cost us that game against Scum at home we only deserved a point tbh. Definitely cost us the 1 nil loss up there.

At the end of the day Arnie makes the decisions, he hasn't made too many bad 1's (except signing Baird) so whatever team he puts out there he has faith in as will I.

If we get 6 points out if the next 2 games we could be 10 clear again, COYY

 

[midfielder]

Porter seems a very decent young man and has been very loyal to the club .. maybe to loyal as he has IMO always looked better as right mid than right back... but for whatever reasons he has only on few times got to play right mid... He has stuck by the club and tried to play RB... but at RB he is a very good state league player but is he up to A-League Hal 7 standard at RB and I think not...


Consider who he will be marking ... Ifill ... who is arguably one of the best in the League ... Porter marking Ifill if I were coach I would not take the chance...

 

[midfielder]

Interesting stat... we have lost every game this year Musty has not played in and not lost a game Musty has played in...

 

[kevrenor]

Saturday, 18 February 2012
Central Coast Mariners v Wellington Phoenix


Venue:Bluetongue Stadium
Local kick-off: 5:30pm
TV broadcast: Fox Sports 1
Referees: Strebre Delovski / Paul Cetrangolo / Lance Greenshields / Gerard Parsons

Head-to-Head: All matches (played 13): Central Coast Mariners wins 6, Wellington Phoenix wins 5 (2 draws)

Central Coast Mariners Squad: 2. Daniel MCBREEN, 3. Joshua ROSE, 4. Pedj BOJIC, 5. Brad PORTER, 6. Patrick ZWAANSWIJK, 7. John HUTCHINSON, 8. Rostyn GRIFFITHS, 9. Bernie IBINI, 10. Adriano PELLEGRINO, 12. Troy HEARFIELD, 13. Stuart MUSIALIK, 14. Michael MCGLINCHEY, 15. Brad MCDONALD, 17. Tomas ROGIC, 18. Alex WILKINSON (C), 19. John SUTTON, 20. Justin PASFIELD (Gk), 23. Adam KWASNIK, 24. Mitchell DUKE, 31. Brody CRANE (Gk) *five to be omitted*

In: 4. Pedj BOJIC (returns from injury), 5. Brad PORTER (promoted), 12. Troy HEARFIELD (returns from injury), 13. Stuart MUSIALIK (promoted), 15. Brad MCDONALD (promoted), 24. Mitchell DUKE (promoted), 19. John SUTTON
Out: 16. Trent SAINSBURY, 22. Sam GALLAGHER (both suspended)
Unavailable: 1. Mathew RYAN, 11. Oliver BOZANIC, 22. Mustafa AMINI (all Qantas Australian U23 duty)

Wellington Phoenix squad: 1. Mark Paston (GK), 3. Tony Lochhead, 4. Brent Griffiths, 7. Leo Bertos, 8. Paul Ifill, 9. Chris Greenacre, 11. Daniel, 12. Nicky Ward, 14. Mirjan Pavlovic, 17. Vince Lia, 18. Ben Sigmund, 19. Jimmy Downey, 20, Tony Warner (GK), 21. Dani Sanchez, 24. Alex Smith

In: Brent Griffiths (promoted), Mirjan Pavlovic (promoted), Manny Muscat (returns from suspension), Nicky Ward (returns from injury)
Out: Tim Brown, Andrew Durante (both suspended – 1 match)
Unavailable: Cameron Lindsay (international duty), Lucas Pantelis (knee injury – indefinite)

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Interesting that Gallagher was suspended in NYL - normally suspensions only apply in the same competition - anyone shed any light on this?

 

[cbowden9000]

Sutton will start