Mariners v Queensland Minor Semi Finals

[chief]

we were using the long ball a bit to much in the first leg so i think we should use this formation

                    Vukovic
Clark  Bougs  stringers  Wilko  porter
             
                  Mckinna

Heff      Simon          D'Mac        Sash
 
the 5-1-4
if anyone can solve our midfield lawrie can

 

[Paolo]

we were using the long ball a bit to much in the first leg so i think we should use this formation

                    Vukovic
Clark   Bougs   stringers  Wilko   porter
              
                  Mckinna

Heff      Simon           D'Mac         Sash
  
the 5-1-4
if anyone can solve our midfield lawrie can

shit line up........everyone knows heff is a left sided player. bl

 

[Bear]

lol bl

 

[brett]

the theory with the back three is there is more cover behind your wide backs, which we need defensively due to Zullo and Minnie, and in turn those wide backs have more freedom to break forward. I think one of the reasons Hutch and Caceres appear to be struggling is that they simply have too few options moving off the ball to pass to.

Thats why you need to play a 4-4-2 with Clark and Bojic at right and left back and push Porter and Heff forward. We dont need 3 players on van Dijk. A 4 means these players pick up the 2 wide players Zullo and Minniecon allowing Heff and Porter to push onto Packer and Seo.

But we too often just had our wide midfielders dropping to help our fullbacks double team their wide guys. Then it would just be the strikers sitting up front alone. How often did Gumps or Hutch get to the byline to cross? 0. Caceres cut through once and it would have been a goal to Dmac if Moore wasn't such a brilliant defender. But basically we were pinned back out wide and unpenetrative through the middle.

The back three gives us insurance at the back to take risks out wide and force THEM back, and it gives us the spare man in the midfield to actually retain the ball for more than two passes. This is the key to it for me. We have great attacking players in Heff and Porter but they don't spend any time attacking if we don't give them time to push on. That time is bought by keeping ze ball.

 

[bulldogmariner]

the theory with the back three is there is more cover behind your wide backs, which we need defensively due to Zullo and Minnie, and in turn those wide backs have more freedom to break forward. I think one of the reasons Hutch and Caceres appear to be struggling is that they simply have too few options moving off the ball to pass to.

Thats why you need to play a 4-4-2 with Clark and Bojic at right and left back and push Porter and Heff forward. We dont need 3 players on van Dijk. A 4 means these players pick up the 2 wide players Zullo and Minniecon allowing Heff and Porter to push onto Packer and Seo.

But we too often just had our wide midfielders dropping to help our fullbacks double team their wide guys. Then it would just be the strikers sitting up front alone. How often did Gumps or Hutch get to the byline to cross? 0. Caceres cut through once and it would have been a goal to Dmac if Moore wasn't such a brilliant defender. But basically we were pinned back out wide and unpenetrative through the middle.

The back three gives us insurance at the back to take risks out wide and force THEM back, and it gives us the spare man in the midfield to actually retain the ball for more than two passes. This is the key to it for me. We have great attacking players in Heff and Porter but they don't spend any time attacking if we don't give them time to push on. That time is bought by keeping ze ball.

I will agree to disagree with you but take your points on board. But i think with 4 across the back and playing 2 out and out wingers will be better for us than 3 defenders not pushing forward marking one player.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Hows about

Porter Boogs Wilko Heff

        Pedj Gumps (DM's)

Owens                  Caceres (wingers)

        Dylan Matty

 

[brett]

the theory with the back three is there is more cover behind your wide backs, which we need defensively due to Zullo and Minnie, and in turn those wide backs have more freedom to break forward. I think one of the reasons Hutch and Caceres appear to be struggling is that they simply have too few options moving off the ball to pass to.

Thats why you need to play a 4-4-2 with Clark and Bojic at right and left back and push Porter and Heff forward. We dont need 3 players on van Dijk. A 4 means these players pick up the 2 wide players Zullo and Minniecon allowing Heff and Porter to push onto Packer and Seo.

But we too often just had our wide midfielders dropping to help our fullbacks double team their wide guys. Then it would just be the strikers sitting up front alone. How often did Gumps or Hutch get to the byline to cross? 0. Caceres cut through once and it would have been a goal to Dmac if Moore wasn't such a brilliant defender. But basically we were pinned back out wide and unpenetrative through the middle.

The back three gives us insurance at the back to take risks out wide and force THEM back, and it gives us the spare man in the midfield to actually retain the ball for more than two passes. This is the key to it for me. We have great attacking players in Heff and Porter but they don't spend any time attacking if we don't give them time to push on. That time is bought by keeping ze ball.

I will agree to disagree with you but take your points on board. But i think with 4 across the back and playing 2 out and out wingers will be better for us than 3 defenders not pushing forward marking one player.

Fair enough - and I see what you are saying as well, which is that if you get fullbacks forward, a back four is essentially more attacking than a back three. In theory that is true. I feel we seem to move the ball so quickly that we never get the fullbacks forward, so in effect have 4 players hanging back.

 

[FFC Mariner]

From the official site

The Central Coast Mariners will welcome back Qantas Socceroo Dean Heffernan to selection calculations at Suncorp Stadium on Friday night, with the 28-year-old defender having served his recent two-match suspension.

So all that angry bollocks from LM after Heff's brain snap in Melb was exactly that. Bollocks.
Maybe the players are too comfy and know who will get a start regardless fo form or behaviour.

 

[Deej]

Hows about

Porter Boogs Wilko Heff

         Pedj Gumps (DM's)

Owens                  Caceres (wingers)

         Dylan Matty

I have a hunch that Owens may have played his last game in Mariners shirt.

Caceres has been rubbish, first touch and shooting has been poor.  I think Lawrie has to attack early, going in 1-0 up at HT would have us buzzing and them nervous.

-----------------Danny
Porter-----Wilko-----Pedj------Heff
---Gumps-------Osman---Hutch
----Sash------Macca------Simon

Bench - Redders, Boogs, Clarke, Mrdja and Caceres

 

[FFC Mariner]

Osman CM is a bit scary but lets just go and batter the living crap out of them

3 up front, lots of early nasty fouls (esp on their quick players)

 

[tyson]

Hows about

Porter Boogs Wilko Heff

         Pedj Gumps (DM's)

Owens                  Caceres (wingers)

         Dylan Matty

I have a hunch that Owens may have played his last game in Mariners shirt.

Caceres has been rubbish, first touch and shooting has been poor.  I think Lawrie has to attack early, going in 1-0 up at HT would have us buzzing and them nervous.

-----------------Danny
Porter-----Wilko-----Pedj------Heff
---Gumps-------Osman---Hutch
----Sash------Macca------Simon

Bench - Redders, Boogs, Clarke, Mrdja and Caceres

Wouldn't Lawrie be more likely to put Hutcho as central, despite not being fast enough for QLD's midfield?

 

[From the dug out]

          DV

BP    PO    AW  AC

MO  NB    JH    DH

      DM    MS

 

[dibo]

Caceres at LB? It's not good to be drinking hard in the morning you know.

JH to LM, DH to LB, AC to CM. JH pulls in narrow as DH bombs forward and can drop in if need. NB and AC play diamond.

Where's PB?

 

[bulldogmariner]

AC is that Andrew Clark?

 

[bulldogmariner]

CENTRAL Coast coach Lawrie McKinna is likely to unleash Dean Heffernan in an attacking role as the Mariners go for broke in the return leg minor semi-final against Queensland at Suncorp on Friday.

McKinna hinted Heffernan, back from suspension, could go further up field rather than left-back defence.


Heffernan, Nigel Boogaard and Andrew Clark are set to be in the starting team after Mariners lost the first leg 2-0
John Taylor Telegraph

 

[From the dug out]

Caceres at LB? It's not good to be drinking hard in the morning you know.

JH to LM, DH to LB, AC to CM. JH pulls in narrow as DH bombs forward and can drop in if need. NB and AC play diamond.

Where's PB?

Not even on the bench. still at home.

 

[From the dug out]

Caceres at LB? It's not good to be drinking hard in the morning you know.

JH to LM, DH to LB, AC to CM. JH pulls in narrow as DH bombs forward and can drop in if need. NB and AC play diamond.

Where's PB?

Even saying the word "drinking" makes me thursty...lol.

Clarkey to return.

 

[Wilson]

Caceres at LB? It's not good to be drinking hard in the morning you know.

JH to LM, DH to LB, AC to CM. JH pulls in narrow as DH bombs forward and can drop in if need. NB and AC play diamond.

Where's PB?

Even saying the word "drinking" makes me thursty...lol.

Clarkey to return.

The circle speaks again!!!

 

[From the dug out]

Caceres at LB? It's not good to be drinking hard in the morning you know.

JH to LM, DH to LB, AC to CM. JH pulls in narrow as DH bombs forward and can drop in if need. NB and AC play diamond.

Where's PB?

Even saying the word "drinking" makes me thursty...lol.

Clarkey to return.

The circle speaks again!!!

I've always thought......"If you find yourself cutting corners, you'll probably end up in circles!"

 

[bulldogmariner]

Foxsports are reporting that Minniecon is out of the game tomorrow with a hip injury.