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Mariners V MV Rd 9 - NSO match

Ancient Mariner

Well-Known Member
Keep up the good work guys.

Do whatever it takes to make the North Sydney experiment a failure.

Show the owner of the club that you will not attend games in protest nor renew your memberships.

And, when you are successful and plan A fails, I am certain you will all find plan B much more acceptable.





Won't you..........................?:unsure:
 

Jaundice

Well-Known Member
To be honest I think there's a fair bit of handwaving in this suggestion. Clearly there were/are problems between CCM and CCF, but unless either Stalder/Charlesworth or Darren Sprod come out and make a statement we're not going to know if that relationship is already being worked on.

In any case I think it will be a while before the CCF clubs decide to provide anywhere near the level of support that the NSFA clubs are right now.

I have a suspicion there are a few stakeholders in CCF that fear they would become redundant if mariners took a leading role in football on the coast.
 

Gratis

Well-Known Member
Perhaps a more positive getting bums to actual Gosford games through media channels would serve us better then boycotting the club.
this definitely has to happen
whether to boycott or not, well the club is looking to build on its supporter base by moving games. a large contingent of current supporters going to north sydney games only gives the club a false reading of any growth
that said i really don't know what is the right thing to do here. i want to support my team but want the club to try other avenues before simply taking our home games away
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
The grassroots campaign to galvanise the community has got some serious momentum already.

From what I hear, they will be doing a lot of the simple stuff that people on this board have been screming out for for years. Easy, cheap, effective.

CCF are fully behind it as well I believe.
 

nebakke

Well-Known Member
Perhaps a more positive getting bums to actual Gosford games through media channels would serve us better then boycotting the club.

I was with you until last week, or the week before mate. Thing is, as pointed out previously, since the stakeholder meeting we have gone from 1-2 games per season at NSO/Brookie to 'several' games... Combined with, what I perceive to be, lacking community engagement and the aggressive marketing campaign that they seem to be both happy and able to unfurl in Sydney... That all leaves me wondering a bit... If they put the sort of effort into the engagement up here, people hitting the pavement, engaging business etc, we would probably be in less of a need to look at moving games...
 

Ancient Mariner

Well-Known Member
this definitely has to happen
whether to boycott or not, well the club is looking to build on its supporter base by moving games. a large contingent of current supporters going to north sydney games only gives the club a false reading of any growth

It is good to see some positive notes beginning to appear.

OK, let's use logic to look at a few points and stop trying to see monsters under the bed.

The stated reason for having one or two games on the North Shore is to increase the supporter base and hunt corporate sponsors. I would like to think the statement about a quarter of our games being played there was a mistake (time will tell).

It has been stated that Mariners will stay on the Central Coast and not move to North Sydney. This is easy to believe simply because North Sydney Oval is not and will never be acceptable to the A-League for more than the odd game. Simples.

As for a large contingent attending the games giving the club a false reading of growth potential, investigating growth potential is not the reason for the game. Why would you give away thousands of freebies just to be misled by an artificially inflated attendance number!

The reason is to get people (mostly parents of kids as well as the kids) who have never been to a football match, to have a great game day experience. From those that do, hopefully many will want more and become fans and will like 20% of our current membership make the trek to Bluetongue each home game and become part of our rusted on support base. This is exactly the way my family was attracted back in the NSL Spirit days. CCM now benefits to the tune of 4 platinum memberships.

The important thing is that Friday is a fun night.

I know many here vehemently disagree with my views, but I see any support for a split between the fans and the owner as being the start of an extinction vortex.

As for the 80% local support being risked by this all I can say is that if they are, they are being bloody selfish, precious, and are weak supporters. They are responsible for their own actions and can blame no one but themselves if their withholding of support damages the club.

MC may be wrong in his views and his plan. I think the basic premise is good. He and the club have obviously failed in selling it and it is pretty clear that the execution leaves much to be desired. But if it is not given a chance we will never know.

As Fish said elsewhere MC owns the club and he can do what he likes. If you disagree with him, fine that is up to you, but don't drag CCM down with talk of not going to games or not renewing memberships. Nothing will kill a club quicker than that sort of bad vibe. Take a positive route and if you think MC is mistaken, stupid, or whatever, do what you can to increase local support as is starting to be talked about now.

The survival, growth and success of the CCM is as important to me as it is to any other supporter here.

I have passionately supported 2 other sporting clubs (as have others here) that have folded. It is cruel, and I do not want to see it happen a third time.

I will be at Friday's game and all other home games supporting my team and my club.
 

justafan

Well-Known Member
It is good to see some positive notes beginning to appear.

OK, let's use logic to look at a few points and stop trying to see monsters under the bed.

The stated reason for having one or two games on the North Shore is to increase the supporter base and hunt corporate sponsors. I would like to think the statement about a quarter of our games being played there was a mistake (time will tell).

It has been stated that Mariners will stay on the Central Coast and not move to North Sydney. This is easy to believe simply because North Sydney Oval is not and will never be acceptable to the A-League for more than the odd game. Simples.

As for a large contingent attending the games giving the club a false reading of growth potential, investigating growth potential is not the reason for the game. Why would you give away thousands of freebies just to be misled by an artificially inflated attendance number!

The reason is to get people (mostly parents of kids as well as the kids) who have never been to a football match, to have a great game day experience. From those that do, hopefully many will want more and become fans and will like 20% of our current membership make the trek to Bluetongue each home game and become part of our rusted on support base. This is exactly the way my family was attracted back in the NSL Spirit days. CCM now benefits to the tune of 4 platinum memberships.

The important thing is that Friday is a fun night.

I know many here vehemently disagree with my views, but I see any support for a split between the fans and the owner as being the start of an extinction vortex.

As for the 80% local support being risked by this all I can say is that if they are, they are being bloody selfish, precious, and are weak supporters. They are responsible for their own actions and can blame no one but themselves if their withholding of support damages the club.

MC may be wrong in his views and his plan. I think the basic premise is good. He and the club have obviously failed in selling it and it is pretty clear that the execution leaves much to be desired. But if it is not given a chance we will never know.

As Fish said elsewhere MC owns the club and he can do what he likes. If you disagree with him, fine that is up to you, but don't drag CCM down with talk of not going to games or not renewing memberships. Nothing will kill a club quicker than that sort of bad vibe. Take a positive route and if you think MC is mistaken, stupid, or whatever, do what you can to increase local support as is starting to be talked about now.

The survival, growth and success of the CCM is as important to me as it is to any other supporter here.

I have passionately supported 2 other sporting clubs (as have others here) that have folded. It is cruel, and I do not want to see it happen a third time.

I will be at Friday's game and all other home games supporting my team and my club.



Totally agree. My sentiments as well. Very good post AM. Despite my disagreement with MC, as a fan I'll still be at NSO supporting our coach and players when they most need it.
 

nebakke

Well-Known Member
It is good to see some positive notes beginning to appear.

As for the 80% local support being risked by this all I can say is that if they are, they are being bloody selfish, precious, and are weak supporters. They are responsible for their own actions and can blame no one but themselves if their withholding of support damages the club.

Oh P**S off... If I don't show for a game but watch it on tele, CCM get twice the exposure, they're better off financially because I have a full gold membership and they're better off exposurewise, because I'm helping the game ratings.
By your logic, MC could sell the entire team, board up the gates to Central Coast Stadium and use Central Coast Lightning as his primary team and we'd still be poor supporters for not blindly following.
This is a club... A family, not a cult!

MC may be wrong in his views and his plan. I think the basic premise is good. He and the club have obviously failed in selling it and it is pretty clear that the execution leaves much to be desired. But if it is not given a chance we will never know.

The problem is that on top of the premise and execution, the story keeps changing... Makes it hard to know what to think these days.

As Fish said elsewhere MC owns the club and he can do what he likes. If you disagree with him, fine that is up to you, but don't drag CCM down with talk of not going to games or not renewing memberships. Nothing will kill a club quicker than that sort of bad vibe. Take a positive route and if you think MC is mistaken, stupid, or whatever, do what you can to increase local support as is starting to be talked about now.

See above

The survival, growth and success of the CCM is as important to me as it is to any other supporter here.

Agreed, but the North Sydney Mariners are NOT CCM!!!
 

BrisRecky

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
As per the nso game, Didn't see anyone from the club handing out freebies hand over fist at Erina Fair anytime recently to fill up The Fortress...maybe they should try that sometime...HELL, I'll even hand them out
 

true believer

Well-Known Member
the rub is .we are the central coast . as middy said we still added another 300 memberships

I believe it's time to boycott . we've as a fan base will never again be this strong .
5 games away from Gosford and I can't see me paying for my 3 memberships .
I've been a western suburbs supporter a Granville malita eagles supporter .

if we tug the flock . we'll lose our team . our strength is the coast . nobody rates us and we still beat them .
I rather fight than go meekly out the back door .
 
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Ancient Mariner

Well-Known Member
As per the nso game, Didn't see anyone from the club handing out freebies hand over fist at Erina Fair anytime recently to fill up The Fortress...maybe they should try that sometime...HELL, I'll even hand them out

What about all the kids in the local clubs?
 

Capt. Awesome

Well-Known Member
It is good to see some positive notes beginning to appear.

OK, let's use logic to look at a few points and stop trying to see monsters under the bed.

The stated reason for having one or two games on the North Shore is to increase the supporter base and hunt corporate sponsors. I would like to think the statement about a quarter of our games being played there was a mistake (time will tell).

It has been stated that Mariners will stay on the Central Coast and not move to North Sydney. This is easy to believe simply because North Sydney Oval is not and will never be acceptable to the A-League for more than the odd game. Simples.

As for a large contingent attending the games giving the club a false reading of growth potential, investigating growth potential is not the reason for the game. Why would you give away thousands of freebies just to be misled by an artificially inflated attendance number!

The reason is to get people (mostly parents of kids as well as the kids) who have never been to a football match, to have a great game day experience. From those that do, hopefully many will want more and become fans and will like 20% of our current membership make the trek to Bluetongue each home game and become part of our rusted on support base. This is exactly the way my family was attracted back in the NSL Spirit days. CCM now benefits to the tune of 4 platinum memberships.

The important thing is that Friday is a fun night.

I know many here vehemently disagree with my views, but I see any support for a split between the fans and the owner as being the start of an extinction vortex.

As for the 80% local support being risked by this all I can say is that if they are, they are being bloody selfish, precious, and are weak supporters. They are responsible for their own actions and can blame no one but themselves if their withholding of support damages the club.

MC may be wrong in his views and his plan. I think the basic premise is good. He and the club have obviously failed in selling it and it is pretty clear that the execution leaves much to be desired. But if it is not given a chance we will never know.

As Fish said elsewhere MC owns the club and he can do what he likes. If you disagree with him, fine that is up to you, but don't drag CCM down with talk of not going to games or not renewing memberships. Nothing will kill a club quicker than that sort of bad vibe. Take a positive route and if you think MC is mistaken, stupid, or whatever, do what you can to increase local support as is starting to be talked about now.

The survival, growth and success of the CCM is as important to me as it is to any other supporter here.

I have passionately supported 2 other sporting clubs (as have others here) that have folded. It is cruel, and I do not want to see it happen a third time.

I will be at Friday's game and all other home games supporting my team and my club.
The statement about having a quarter of the games at NSO was not a mistake. MC said it will be at least 4 games. The problem is MC has shown that he can't be trusted so I don't believe him anymore. He start off with one game and said no more and now we are looking at losing 4-5 games. Next year it will be 6-7.

I used to be positive. Not anymore. If Lawrie Mckinna doesn't trust MC that a pretty clear indication the club is not acting in the interest of the Central Coast community and the fans.

#SayNoToNSO

I'm not losing my club.
 

Bladesman

Well-Known Member
I have passionately supported 2 other sporting clubs (as have others here) that have folded. It is cruel, and I do not want to see it happen a third time.

I will be at Friday's game and all other home games supporting my team and my club.

And yet you are quite happy to follow MC leading your 3rd club into oblivion, well unless you count North Sydney Mariners or whatever the license becomes as the same club.
 

Jaundice

Well-Known Member
Oh P**S off... If I don't show for a game but watch it on tele, CCM get twice the exposure, they're better off financially because I have a full gold membership and they're better off exposurewise, because I'm helping the game ratings.
By your logic, MC could sell the entire team, board up the gates to Central Coast Stadium and use Central Coast Lightning as his primary team and we'd still be poor supporters for not blindly following.
This is a club... A family, not a cult!

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Ancient Mariner

Well-Known Member
If Lawrie Mckinna doesn't trust MC that a pretty clear indication the club is not acting in the interest of the Central Coast community and the fans.

#

While not suggesting the two are mutually exclusive, I would hope that MC wass acting in the best interests of the club rather than the community.
 

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