Mariners Squad - HAL 14 - 2018- 2019 - The challenge for Mike Mulvey is over

[Wombat]

I think with several players (mainly Hoole and Melling), this season was riddled with errors and cheap turnovers as they were pissed at the rest of the team in certain situations and tried to force something to happen by pushing too hard. Looking at Hoole in particular, he nearly always looks for the pass at the right time but when he looks up and sees static players ahead of him, he seems to flick the "f' em switch" and try and do it all himself. Melling similar, Brama did the same but instead of the switch, he hit the self destruct button.

I'm hoping that MM will prove to be a coach who doesn't want to be their friend and forces them to put in the hard yards. Time and again we are too static in the front third with no pre-emptive runs being made ( reactive rather than proactive) and I can see us improving greatly (both as a team and as individuals) if they are forced to "work till they puke".

Anyone heard any more on the DDS to Sydney rumour? As said in an earlier post, he has been MASSIVELY disappointing this season and I for one wouldn't shed a tear if he was part of a swap deal. (They can have Okon for free as part of the package).

I also strongly disagree with your DDS comments. I hope he is here next year as he has quality and we severely lack quality. Funny how people view the same thing so differently.

 

[possum x]

Same report claims Sydney are super keen.

This rumour has been floating around since Trent was playing for the academy, according to his old man anyway.

 

[Wombat]

This rumour has been floating around since Trent was playing for the academy, according to his old man anyway.

So its a nothing rumour then??

 

[possum x]

So its a nothing rumour then??

I wouldn't say that, I'm just saying his dad has told me in the past that Sydney were interested

 

[Wombat]

He is an exciting but very unpolished talent. Many clubs would think they could get more out of him than us.

BUT the important point is the clause (which i think is bullshit on several levels)

 

[Big Al]

Wouldn’t doubt the clause. TBT signed extension when Okon was still fresh and had been under Okon in young Socceroos.

Sydney need a RW, they haven’t had one this season to replace Ibini and SFC.

Trent is a young Socceroo has pace he’d be a target of orher clubs and wouldn’t take much to be paying more than us.

Wouldn’t write it off but hope it’s not true but if he doesn’t have the ticker to fight for his home town club then bye.

That said he’s probably sick of not playing in our shit teams so would be easy to sway him

 

[midfielder]

I am amazed at those wanting DDS to leave.

We have IMO only 3 ggrrrrr hhhmmm class players, the two Dutchies and DDS...

I have been reflecting on our season, and the more I think on it the more I am disappointed with Okon.

Let me tell yer for why.

We played with two holding mids ... essentially a 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 formation...

However our outside mids i.e Pain on the left Apt on the right, on balance they were constantly more up the field with Okon's tacit of trying fast break aways and counter attacks.

What this did it left DDS with few options of what to do with the ball and his passing lanes were easily closed down... I saw him frustrated some nights and he dropped back way to deep in an attempt open up space.... often with Pain and Apt still sitting high..

I contrast this to when we had Arnold... yes a different level of player ... BUT

Often the two outside backs would push up with Hutch dropping between the two center backs with Monty holding the centre of teh park and the two wide backs getting in a line with him... then our 10 be that Musty, Rogic, Olly, would have outside him our two wide mids with Macka up front.

Hutch, Monty and our 10 had multi passing lanes and with off the ball movement our 10 was very often left free with passing lanes always open to someone.

Okon seemed by the squad he put together and the tacit he refused to change, wanted us to use raw pace on a quick counter... by mid season every coach had worked it out and closed down the passing lanes to Pain and APT or Trent.

By staying so high out wide it left our outside backs exposed as there were acres of space to attack us.... The kind would call our outside backs poor the cruel would say they were beneath NPL level... Thus we had arguably the weakest part of our team i.e. our two outside backs covering far more space than most backs as the outside mids were up the park on coaches instructions.

This holding up the park waiting for the quick break, meant the two Dutchies also had their passing lanes closed,.

Into the mix then came Melling ... poor kid, with the outside mids mostly up and two weak outside backs, he could not make a mistake and he made a couple of mistakes each week and we had no cover allowing for this.

So DDS IMO was brilliant.... me thinks he lost faith in Okon by years end and he strikes me as a thinking Footballer as do the two Dutchies ...

 

[Gratis]

Re: Trent - was told by a fairly reliable source on this matter that he was offered something by SFC earlier this year but we wouldn't let him out of his final year of contract and he was a little dirty about it.

He wouldn't have been given the spotlight without CCM, wouldn't have had almost any game time elsewhere, it's his home club and he was 17 or 18 when given a contract in the first place.

If what I was told turns out to be true (and to be fair it's second hand information which I will always take with a grain of salt) then if he can't show the basic loyalty of simply seeing out his contract then he straight up doesn't pass the no dickheads measure.

You'd never see a Monty or a Hutch act in such a way.

 

[Gratis]

I am amazed at those wanting DDS to leave.

We have IMO only 3 ggrrrrr hhhmmm class players, the two Dutchies and DDS...

I have been reflecting on our season, and the more I think on it the more I am disappointed with Okon.

Let me tell yer for why.

We played with two holding mids ... essentially a 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 formation...

However our outside mids i.e Pain on the left Apt on the right, on balance they were constantly more up the field with Okon's tacit of trying fast break aways and counter attacks.

What this did it left DDS with few options of what to do with the ball and his passing lanes were easily closed down... I saw him frustrated some nights and he dropped back way to deep in an attempt open up space.... often with Pain and Apt still sitting high..

I contrast this to when we had Arnold... yes a different level of player ... BUT

Often the two outside backs would push up with Hutch dropping between the two center backs with Monty holding the centre of teh park and the two wide backs getting in a line with him... then our 10 be that Musty, Rogic, Olly, would have outside him our two wide mids with Macka up front.

Hutch, Monty and our 10 had multi passing lanes and with off the ball movement our 10 was very often left free with passing lanes always open to someone.

Okon seemed by the squad he put together and the tacit he refused to change, wanted us to use raw pace on a quick counter... by mid season every coach had worked it out and closed down the passing lanes to Pain and APT or Trent.

By staying so high out wide it left our outside backs exposed as there were acres of space to attack us.... The kind would call our outside backs poor the cruel would say they were beneath NPL level... Thus we had arguably the weakest part of our team i.e. our two outside backs covering far more space than most backs as the outside mids were up the park on coaches instructions.

This holding up the park waiting for the quick break, meant the two Dutchies also had their passing lanes closed,.

Into the mix then came Melling ... poor kid, with the outside mids mostly up and two weak outside backs, he could not make a mistake and he made a couple of mistakes each week and we had no cover allowing for this.

So DDS IMO was brilliant.... me thinks he lost faith in Okon by years end and he strikes me as a thinking Footballer as do the two Dutchies ...

Like Brama I'd argue that in a reasonable team DDS will be great.
Just glad it was a 3 year deal, which could of course be broken, but hopefully the core players will see a reason to hope and want to stay and get stuck in now.

C'mon Mulvey! We're all banking on you.

 

[BrisRecky]

So , the caucasian Appiah wants out does he ...o.k seeya , apart from blinding speed his got nothing, I really tried to get onto "The Budgie Train" but nup , and as for going because of the Okon clause, fark moi, Okon never played him, especially after that ridiculous tourney that him and DDS wasted their time at
#TBTOut

 

[Insertnamehere]

So , the caucasian Appiah wants out does he ...o.k seeya , apart from blinding speed his got nothing, I really tried to get onto "The Budgie Train" but nup , and as for going because of the Okon clause, fark moi, Okon never played him, especially after that ridiculous tourney that him and DDS wasted their time at
#TBTOut

At this point it's hearsay. So probs an overreaction there mate

 

[Forum Phoenix]

No need to be sorry, I know people who think he was average and others who think he was one of our worst (particularly with effort). everyone is different but his heart wasn't in it, that was clear after about round 4 when he was virtually non existent. If it wasn't for the fact we are only paying a small part of his wages, he'd be a very expensive flop this season, we scored as many last year with Blake at 10.

I think DDS’s struggles really relate to what you said about our lack of movement in the front third. Will kill a CAM every time. And also Okons philosophy. Must keep and pass ball no matter what.

 

[FFC Mariner]

There is no room in a team as poor as ours for 2 AM's. We can play either DDS or Danny Hoole, not both.

 

[yorkshireman]

I think DDS’s struggles really relate to what you said about our lack of movement in the front third. Will kill a CAM every time. And also Okons philosophy. Must keep and pass ball no matter what.

I agree whole heartedly, my issue was that his effort was poor, he never got pissed at the others or tried to lift his effort like Hoole did. He just seemed to shrug his shoulders and give in. If he stays I can see a lot of promise BUT, I can't see any signs of him "buying into the club". After listening to the podcast and Shaun's comments, I'm not sure that he'll fit.

I do hope I'm wrong.

 

[Spacks]

There is no room in a team as poor as ours for 2 AM's. We can play either DDS or Danny Hoole, not both.

Depends on what formation and how we want to play under mulvey

 

[Josho Howe]

New No.1 Keeper

New RB/McGing - Baro - Golec (Quality back up CB needed) - New LB/Rowles

Brama - Tom (Quality back up DM needed)

New winger/Pain - DDS (If he leaves, need a quality 10) - Hoole

New Striker (Back up needed)

Bench - BK, Melling, Wales, Trent

So that's what l have come up with in these very early days of our pre-season. Mulvey has 13 spots available so who knows what the round 1 next season line-up will be.

 

[finally retired]

So that's what l have come up with in these very early days of our pre-season. Mulvey has 13 spots available so who knows what the round 1 next season line-up will be.

just as long as it's not everybody else's rejects

 

[Insertnamehere]

https://www.transfermarkt.com/a-league/endendevertraege/wettbewerb/AUS1

Plenty of decent players on offer

 

[Insertnamehere]

One I'd like us to have a go at is ruon tongyik. He was awesome last yr not got much of a crack this year. Out and out centre half. Great one to groom up.
Probs unlikely but a boy can dream.

 

[Spacks]

So that's what l have come up with in these very early days of our pre-season. Mulvey has 13 spots available so who knows what the round 1 next season line-up will be.

Made it into a nice image