Mariners Squad 2022/2023

[marinermick]

It’s all a crock of shit. He will be at training tomorrow.

 

[Insertnamehere]

Not much point developing youth if you cant keep them. Slight flaw in the business model there. Less money spunked on non goal scoring strikers and more spent propping up the kids.

Just a suggestion

The point in a sellers league is to train yoof enough to appeal to clubs to buy them with sell ons.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Not quite my point but anyway.
Too many agents allowed in to sniff around our young stars by the new regime
Some will get their heads turned

 

[Rising Sun]

Not much point developing youth if you cant keep them. Slight flaw in the business model there. Less money spunked on non goal scoring strikers and more spent propping up the kids.

Just a suggestion

We seem to be moving the model in the right direction. Ballard and Hall were contracted to 2023 but we have extended them to 2024. Presumably paying a bit more for their 2023 salary but locking them in for longer.
I assume we offered Faz something similar. Ignoring the above rumours, I presume he rejected because he is prepared to back himself and sacrifice a few more bucks for next season in order to be in a better negotiating position as a free agent. You are not going to be able to sell everybody under contract - at least we get the training fees.

 

[marinermick]

Not quite my point but anyway.
Too many agents allowed in to sniff around our young stars by the new regime
Some will get their heads turned

I get exactly what FFC Mariner is saying. From what I understand there seems to be a number of agents hanging around the club lately, on friendly terms with the coaching staff, especially around the academy. I don’t know what has changed lately but it wasn’t like this last season. It sends the wrong message to up and coming talent to take any deal, because the presence of agents just hanging around, legitimatises their every practice.

 

[marinermick]

We seem to be moving the model in the right direction. Ballard and Hall were contracted to 2023 but we have extended them to 2024. Presumably paying a bit more for their 2023 salary but locking them in for longer.
I assume we offered Faz something similar. Ignoring the above rumours, I presume he rejected because he is prepared to back himself and sacrifice a few more bucks for next season in order to be in a better negotiating position as a free agent. You are not going to be able to sell everybody under contract - at least we get the training fees.

He rejected other offers because he is a massive introvert. He is comfortable at the club and comfortable with the coach. It was not that long ago he nearly walked away from the game for good. He understands that staying longer at the club is not only good for his development but also good for his mental well being. The fact that he was away with the 23s and hated every minute of it because he was in a very foreign environment and not at home, probably helped his decision to stay with the club.

 

[Rising Sun]

He rejected other offers because he is a massive introvert. He is comfortable at the club and comfortable with the coach. It was not that long ago he nearly walked away from the game for good. He understands that staying longer at the club is not only good for his development but also good for his mental well being. The fact that he was away with the 23s and hated every minute of it because he was in a very foreign environment and not at home, probably helped his decision to stay with the club.

Just to clarify, I was suggesting he rejected any upgrade we may have offered in order to negotiate as a free agent at the end of next season when his current contract ended. Hope for his sake that he can start to feel a bit more comfortable getting out of safe environments in order to get to Europe to realise his full potential

 

[Big Al]

I get exactly what FFC Mariner is saying. From what I understand there seems to be a number of agents hanging around the club lately, on friendly terms with the coaching staff, especially around the academy. I don’t know what has changed lately but it wasn’t like this last season. It sends the wrong message to up and coming talent to take any deal, because the presence of agents just hanging around, legitimatises their every practice.

Depends what the club is trying to achieve. Agent’s are part of all sports and it’s probably more surprising they aren’t around more.

The club maybe using it to get the best young talent to the club. The ones who can be sold overseas quickly before needing contract extensions is maybe what they are looking for from it because when contract extensions are required we will probably get out bid. At least until transfer fees come into the A League to A League clubs. It’s hard to know what the new regime wants or is prepared to pay for contract extensions.

What we don’t want is them nabbed before they make the 1st team.

Will be interesting to see what way they head and is the academy the priority?

Agents will be agents but maybe it’s a matter of keep your enemies close type things.

 

[Big Al]

Also don’t trust these guys as a 100% serious account. Anybody advertising for people with knowledge to join up obviously doesn’t know much itself. They have a few ads for different clubs. Have been wrong a bit and wrong a bit as well.

 

[Big Al]

Faz is locked in for next season. that information is wrong.

Bump for the short memories and based on what @marinermick says SFC would be one of the worst places for an introvert and the worst possible coaches.

SFC have lost Joel King so no doubt they might be up to no good but we at least have him under contract (not they mean a-lot these days in sports)

 

[Big Al]

Good question, if he trains well and has a good attitude he should be starting. Get an injury and you open the door. It’s great having competition for positions and should be interesting to watch again this season who holds down their spots in the starting team. Not sure Noah will get much game time at Victory to be honest.

Davidson has gone from MV so there is a high chance he plays

 

[Big Al]

Young Josh Hong is also making a case for himself in the academy and I am also generally impressed with Dean Lasron too, so plenty of good prospects coming through.

That said, we could definitely use an experienced CB and preferably a left footer to maintain the balance in the middle of our defence.

Yeah I thought he was impressive last two games. Haven’t seen much before that but also seemed good with the ball. A header goal from a corner from a CB is always a nice addition as well

 

[Ironbark]

Also don’t trust these guys as a 100% serious account. Anybody advertising for people with knowledge to join up obviously doesn’t know much itself. They have a few ads for different clubs. Have been wrong a bit and wrong a bit as well.

Yeah it's a weak source at best

 

[FFC Mariner]

The bio of that twitter account says it's parody only

 

[Ironbark]

He rejected other offers because he is a massive introvert. He is comfortable at the club and comfortable with the coach. It was not that long ago he nearly walked away from the game for good. He understands that staying longer at the club is not only good for his development but also good for his mental well being. The fact that he was away with the 23s and hated every minute of it because he was in a very foreign environment and not at home, probably helped his decision to stay with the club.

Sounding positive.
I used to know Faz and you're bang on - he's an introvert, an absolutely kind human and loyal. I do hope we get to keep him for a while yet until he's ready for overseas

 

[pjennings]

It'll be interesting to hear what position triallists we see this week - if any.

 

[turbo]

Davidson has gone from MV so there is a high chance he plays

Victory are building a pretty decent squad. They will expect to be a top 3 team. I can’t see how smith would be their first choice left back. Depth & rotation sure but if he’s starting it won’t be by design.

 

[Meerkat]

Sounding positive.
I used to know Faz and you're bang on - he's an introvert, an absolutely kind human and loyal. I do hope we get to keep him for a while yet until he's ready for overseas

From what I’ve seen / heard about Faz and the small interactions we have had with him, I would completely believe this to be true- hence finding it so hard to reconcile a proposed “other side” to him!
He’s a sweetheart. He chatted with my 11 year old at the FFA cup final, even though he was clearly very shy (my son plays for Faz’s original community club.) it was one of the highlights of our trip.
it’s clear Monty thinks the world of him and is also quite protective of him.
Will sleep better tonight ??

 

[pjennings]

Rumours of a Scot coming to us. Can't imagine Ziggy being welcomed warmly.

 

[crock]

Rumours of a Scot coming to us. Can't imagine Ziggy being welcomed warmly.

Arent our foreign spots filled