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[true believer]

who isn't making the claim that the earth was hotter in the past?

Even Climate.gov says so lol

What’s the hottest Earth’s ever been?

Earth’s hottest periods occurred before humans existed. Those ancient climates would have been like nothing our species has ever seen.

www.climate.gov

ANYWAY, ANSWER OZHAMMERS QUESTION

"Tell you what, how about you stop deflecting and state your position on the issue at hand, namely the appropriateness of biological males competing against biological females?"

try this .lets face it your either aways wrong or lying

https://grist.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/2000_year_temperature_comparison.png

 

[Spacks]

try this .lets face it your either aways wrong or lying

https://grist.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/2000_year_temperature_comparison.png

Nope go back to stating your position on whether its appropiate for biological men to compete against biological women and try doing it without quoting some retarded scripture and avoiding it completely.

 

[Ozhammer]

You are wasting your time Spacks and I suspect tb has neither the intellect or honesty to enter into a good faith debate with anyone who holds opposing views.

That’s what happens when someone has unquestionably swallowed the leftist woke dogma hook, line and sinker, which is something all too common in the world today.

When you can’t debate a topic and offer reasoned counterpoints, just scream louder and call people racist/homophobic/islamaphobic/cooker/climate denier/Trumpist/MAGA/antivax/murdoch puppet/Israel apologist (delete as necessary) as that should do the trick eh?

 

[Spacks]

You are wasting your time Spacks and I suspect tb has neither the intellect or honesty to enter into a good faith debate with anyone who holds opposing views.

That’s what happens when someone has unquestionably swallowed the leftist woke dogma hook, line and sinker, which is something all too common in the world today.

When you can’t debate a topic and offer reasoned counterpoints, just scream louder and call people racist/homophobic/islamaphobic/cooker/climate denier/Trumpist/MAGA/antivax/murdoch puppet/Israel apologist (delete as necessary) as that should do the trick eh?

Yeah but I just want everyone to see that.

 

[marinermick]

who isn't making the claim that the earth was hotter in the past?

Even Climate.gov says so lol

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/whats-hottest-earths-ever-been[/URL

Interesting read and thanks for the link. Last paragraph summed it up perfectly.

 

[true believer]

You are wasting your time Spacks and I suspect tb has neither the intellect or honesty to enter into a good faith debate with anyone who holds opposing views.

That’s what happens when someone has unquestionably swallowed the leftist woke dogma hook, line and sinker, which is something all too common in the world today.

When you can’t debate a topic and offer reasoned counterpoints, just scream louder and call people racist/homophobic/islamaphobic/cooker/climate denier/Trumpist/MAGA/antivax/murdoch puppet/Israel apologist (delete as necessary) as that should do the trick eh?

spacks was caught lying seems you're doubling down on the lies .
how about you back up your claim of it being 2 degrees hotter 2000 years ago .yes/no
is IOC or IBA right on gender or cant you debate your homophobic troupe ?

as usual every conservative accusation is an admission of guilt .

 

[Ozhammer]

spacks was caught lying seems you're doubling down on the lies .
how about you back up your claim of it being 2 degrees hotter 2000 years ago .yes/no
is IOC or IBA right on gender or cant you debate your homophobic troupe ?

as usual every conservative accusation is an admission of guilt .

You answer the question I asked you first and stop hiding behind deflections

 

[true believer]

You answer the question I asked you first and stop hiding behind deflections

you have the subtlety of a two year old .why is anyone suprised your own strawman is beyond you .

 

[Paolo]

Two (maybe three?) pages of the same back-and-forth ping pong of questions. It’s obvious you’re both on completely opposite sides of the issue...and that’s totally fine.

But let’s be honest, this isn’t a genuine attempt to understand or engage with each other’s views. It’s just a game of gotcha.

 

[true believer]

Two (maybe three?) pages of the same back-and-forth ping pong of questions. It’s obvious you’re both on completely opposite sides of the issue...and that’s totally fine.

But let’s be honest, this isn’t a genuine attempt to understand or engage with each other’s views. It’s just a game of gotcha.

yeah 3 cheers for false equivence . like two faked papers .
and a strawman to crucify children on

 

[true believer]

remember when the conservatites pretended they were all about economic management .
before switching to poofter bashing as a central policy .

well lets look who the best managers were keating ? fraudendburg ? the lying rodent ?

well done michael west

Treasurer Measurer: exploding the Liberal election myth of superior economic managers - Michael West

Does the Liberal Party's claim to be "superior economic managers" stack up? We investigate 60 years of Australia's Treasurers

michaelwest.com.au

 

[Spacks]

Two (maybe three?) pages of the same back-and-forth ping pong of questions. It’s obvious you’re both on completely opposite sides of the issue...and that’s totally fine.

But let’s be honest, this isn’t a genuine attempt to understand or engage with each other’s views. It’s just a game of gotcha.

He could just state his position and we can move on, how is anyone meant to have a discussion if he just refuses to state his position on anything controversial? It's just pathetic.

 

[pjennings]

Most people are not engaging with the conversation. Maybe a private conversation is more appropriate.

 

[Paolo]

He could just state his position and we can move on, how is anyone meant to have a discussion if he just refuses to state his position on anything controversial? It's just pathetic.

Bullshit. You already know his position based on his responses.
1. He doesn't think it is an issue...or at least believes its a fabricated culture war issue that affects so few people it doesn't warrant the outsized attention it gets.
and / or
2. Is happy to defer to the IOC to determine the appropriateness of their participation.

You aren't looking to discuss anything with him, you know you sit ideologically at opposite ends of the spectrum and are just trying to instigate a slanging match.

Note: So I don't get accused of being a hypocrite, I fall in the camp of "Dont think its appropriate for biological men to a participate in women's sport...but also think the issue is so far overblown"

 

[FFC Mariner]

Agree. For sport. You ought to compete as the gender you were born with.
Having said that, not an issue apart from a few individuals.

 

[marinermick]

Agree. For sport. You ought to compete as the gender you were born with.
Having said that, not an issue apart from a few individuals.

I think it is more than the gender you were born with, it is your sex. The line should be XX and XY and in competition this should easily be tested.

There is still in some circumstances gender confusion at birth, even as a condition throughout life for some individuals.

As Paolo typed it is really blown out of proportion in the media and socials because of:
1. Ignorance and lack of education.
2. A deliberate ploy by those in power to have issues like this divide us, and to deflect the masses from real issues that continue to make them wealthier and wealthier.
3. Homophobia, both religion led and not religion led.

 

[Spacks]

I think it is more than the gender you were born with, it is your sex. The line should be XX and XY and in competition this should easily be tested.

There is still in some circumstances gender confusion at birth, even as a condition throughout life for some individuals.

As Paolo typed it is really blown out of proportion in the media and socials because of:
1. Ignorance and lack of education.
2. A deliberate ploy by those in power to have issues like this divide us, and to deflect the masses from real issues that continue to make them wealthier and wealthier.
3. Homophobia, both religion led and not religion led.

It couldn't possibly be because some people are opportunists?

 

[marinermick]

It couldn't possibly be because some people are opportunists?

Some people probably are but why victimise many more because of that and make it an unnecessary political issue that feeds hatred in the community?

 

[Spacks]

Some people probably are but why victimise many more because of that and make it an unnecessary political issue that feeds hatred in the community?

So biological women competing against biological men that identify as women should suffer for the greater good? And TB thinks I hate women? LOL

 

[marinermick]

So biological women competing against biological men that identify as women should suffer for the greater good? And TB thinks I hate women? LOL

Have you even read what I have typed in my last two posts.

You are either incredibly stupid or you are just willfully belligerent to everyone else’s words, regardless of their views.. The more you type in this forum the more I believe it is column A.