Mariners Squad 2022/2023

[JoyfulPenguin]

 

[Allreet?]

Hearts are turning into Socceroos Lite with Devlin, Atkinson and Kye.

Hearts of Melbournian?

They can't all be gems...

 

[Big Al]

100% hope its bullshit and he is simply mouthing off.

Better be because our club is showing signs they are getting it again but dumb shit like this would be shit Newcastle Keeper vibes.

Hopefully him just riling up people who give him shit

 

[Ancient Mariner]

Seriously, he has been telling people that

He is probably joining Central Coast United and they misunderstood.

 

[Insertnamehere]

All the more reason to bring on the Australian domestic transfer system. There would've been a club to club negotiation rather than just the player walking out and going elsewhere. Probably.

He's a very good player with a high likelihood of being sold on for heaps.

He was a free transfer.

 

[Allreet?]

He was a free transfer.

From Macarthur to Hibs?

 

[Allreet?]

He is probably joining Central Coast United and they misunderstood.

Does he still live on the Coast?

 

[priorpeter]

From Macarthur to Hibs?

Nope - Hibs paid a fee to Macarthur. Not huge but frustrating they get to pocket it nonetheless.

 

[priorpeter]

Does he still live on the Coast?

Sure does

 

[Blackadder]

So Ziggy telling people he is coming back. Any truth at all? He can play CB.............

 

[Allreet?]

You could understand him wanting to come back, but as I said... he's not good enough.

 

[Insertnamehere]

From Macarthur to Hibs?

Sorry from us to bullshits

 

[Allreet?]

Sorry from us to bullshits

That's what I thought. Hence my comments re a transfer system.

If we had one, it would (in all likelihood) have been a very different arrangement. Players' contracts will be longer for starters.

 

[FFC Mariner]

That's all fine, but frankly... he's not good enough.

And has a dog's name

 

[FFC Mariner]

Sorry from us to bullshits

Provided he had signed with MacArthur.
The really smart play is to move on a free and pocket the sign on.
That way his agent can screw even more of the kids earnings

 

[Man Overboard]

I’m not big on booing players and honestly can’t imagine booing one of our own. But if he turned up on the pitch in yellow & blue that could be put to the test.

I liked Ziggy. He brought a lot of experience and ability to our defence at a time when the club was in the doldrums [another nautical term dropped in there lol]. He worked hard for us and I would happily see him back. I don't blame him for wanting to succeed and get some silverware. My only criticism was the unfortunate comment about wanting to be a 'winner' at Wanderers. It was probably for domestic consumption at the Wanderers and of course it implies that the Mariners are losers [which after all of those spoons and near-spoons we were]. Professional footballers have a limited shelf life and need to make hard decisions based on economics rather than emotions like loyalty. I think Connor Pain, another talented hard worker stopped flogging the dead horse that our team was, and moved on for similar reasons. Given the absence of Kye and Tongers I would have him back in a flash.

 

[turbo]

I think Connor Pain, another talented hard worker stopped flogging the dead horse that our team was, and moved on for similar reasons

Pain didnt leave on the eve of a season starting and trash us on the way out. Ziggy had a lot of good will here and ruined it, I dont recall seeing any of our ex players booed for a full game like he was. If he was to return he needs to do it cap in hand and own the mistake. But I think we should be aiming higher.

 

[Corsair]

Pain didnt leave on the eve of a season starting and trash us on the way out. Ziggy had a lot of good will here and ruined it, I dont recall seeing any of our ex players booed for a full game like he was. If he was to return he needs to do it cap in hand and own the mistake. But I think we should be aiming higher.

Exactly. Everyone seems to have forgotten he signed with us and only a few days later reneged on that and dogged us for the Winners. The behavior and the comments were totally disrespectful and unprofessional, any other employer wouldn't have him back, black mark on his HR record.

 

[ryan]

I'm of the opinion that Ziggy, even if he could take back the way he left, would not be a worthwhile signing. He was a squad player at Wanderers and we need to replace a Socceroo. With Ruon also gone we, as far as i know, only have Hall and Windust as CBs so we need to recruit a starting quality player and also a good quality experienced backup.

 

[Man Overboard]

Pain didnt leave on the eve of a season starting and trash us on the way out. Ziggy had a lot of good will here and ruined it, I dont recall seeing any of our ex players booed for a full game like he was. If he was to return he needs to do it cap in hand and own the mistake. But I think we should be aiming higher.

The point is that they both left because they saw better opportunities elsewhere. I've already pointed out that the Winners comment was unfortunate, probably for consumption by supporters of his new club, and probably something he would not do again. Despite his hard work here, we were chronic wooden spooners and his career was going nowhere. I dont hold a grudge where a player moves on to further their career. Its easy to be critical from the terraces and fuelled by a passion for your club, but what drives fans and what drives players arent necessarily the same thing. Booing ex-players demonstrates your displeasure that he isn't as loyal as you are. I doubt that loyalty is as much of a factor as economics for the player. If you want to hate someone over the cause for losses like these guys, then hate Charlesworth. He is the one who underfunded the squad to the extent that talented players had to look elsewhere.