Mariners Squad - 2019-2020

[bikinigirl]

A great example of correct overseas scouting is Ninkovic. Serb international, great career at Dynamo Kyiv, comes over here and dominates. He's not as good now as when he first got here, but at the end of his deal, will have spent 6 years at the bling.

. I don't follow other teams closely (or at all actually) including the Southern Mariners ... but that is not the way Staj tells it. He says Ninko was pretty ordinary the first year and at any other club probably would have been gone after the first season

 

[FFC Mariner]

My people in Newcastle tell me that the scum are looking at at least 1 of our youth players. Be interesting to see if they email us this time?

 

[Big Al]

Lets see how Milan goes over the summer. Certainly has potential to labour on a hot summer day, Being a bigger body

But his shooting power and accuracy along with his cross field balls are exceptional

Haven’t seen many in this league ever strike a ball as cleanly from distance.

Eddie bosnar had a rocket but not much control of it. Milan has both

 

[adz]

They want cheap kids they believe they can sell for a profit.

Forgetting that we need some experience around them

 

[turbo]

. i think the scenarios are quite similar:

• niggling, perhaps persistent injuries rather than the implied 'injury prone'
• older ... though not exactly old
• relatively expensive ... in Mariners dollars
• talent, fan favourite - puts upward pressure on contract negotiations ... not the Mariners way, is it

. maybe it is expectation management, maybe it is a negotiation tactic ... either way, it's not endearing to the fanbase

All reasonable points. The other that I think might be overlooked is if he’s caught attention in his time here and we need to spend a lot more to keep him. I could see a situation where they might not be prepared to gamble on a big $ contract if they’re concerned he’ll slow down or be more injury prone in 18 months.

Edit: but then again I thought someone would pick Jem up if we didn’t so what do I know.

 

[pjennings]

. I don't follow other teams closely (or at all actually) including the Southern Mariners ... but that is not the way Staj tells it. He says Ninko was pretty ordinary the first year and at any other club probably would have been gone after the first season

The stats back up Staj.

15/16 he played 25 games for 4 goals and 0 assists
16/17 he played 26 games for 9 games and 9 assists

 

[bikinigirl]

All reasonable points. The other that I think might be overlooked is if he’s caught attention in his time here and we need to spend a lot more to keep him. I could see a situation where they might not be prepared to gamble on a big $ contract if they’re concerned he’ll slow down or be more injury prone in 18 months.

Edit: but then again I thought someone would pick Jem up if we didn’t so what do I know.

. yeah, that is what i meant by 'upward pressure on contract negotiations' ... sorry if that wasn't clear

. and having spoken to a couple of foreign players in recent years ... they seem a little surprised by the cost of living, particularly if they have a family. retention has been a massive problem in the Charlesworth era

 

[style_cafe]

Majok & Tonyik not included in game day squad, more speculation for the transfer window?...

 

[Michael]

Major & Tonyik not included in game day squad, more speculation for the transfer window?...

majok in particular
Tongyik can still do a job for us imo

 

[scoober]

Is Duric still not worthy of a contract?

 

[shipwreck]

He is becoming an absolute league favourite, if we don't sign him it'll cause another Hiariej uproar.

 

[BaysideMariner]

Is Duric still not worthy of a contract?

Knowing our incompetence he will sign for MacArthur.

 

[Ironbark]

Duric is too old and past it, and the fans don't like him - definitely let him go to a rival for a steal where he can be our repeated downfall

 

[Coastalraider]

He is becoming an absolute league favourite, if we don't sign him it'll cause another Hiariej uproar.

to be fair the Hiariej uproar was a dozen blokes on a forum....

 

[Wombat]

to be fair the Hiariej uproar was a dozen blokes on a forum....

And 40 blokes in Bay 16.

 

[jacobsfl]

Duric is too old and past it, and the fans don't like him - definitely let him go to a rival for a steal where he can be our repeated downfall

I think Anton hacked his account

 

[Forum Phoenix]

to be fair the Hiariej uproar was a dozen blokes on a forum....

But oh the roar we made.

Seriously though. The club needs to understand, and I’m guessing this goes for many of us, that this about more than just keeping a quality player. (And the below applies to some others also).

Kids in particular, but all team fans need heroes. And when we have so many new faces year to year and then combined with the underperforming and low resources etc its so much harder for people to feel that passionate tribal connection that you want from any good fan base. Pretty hard to generate water cooler talk about a swathe of new average players who haven’t really done anything yet. You have to be able to generate excitement and enthusiasm that travels beyond Bolt style hype, And people buy based on emotion.

The Entertainment dollar is a highly competitive space and to rebuild the club and grow our fan base we desperately need consistent faces and some fan favourites to rally around and be enthused by between games and in off season too.

Milan is quality on field and the little I’ve heard him speak he seems an exemplary professional too.

No doubt other clubs are already making hard plays for him. We need to win this one imo. Show our fans that we can keep our talent and have a commitment to not just the future of developing players but also in keeping the visa signings we actually get right.

And there’s the “visa players need time to adjust” theory. If that’s true, then why would we want to go back to square one with another player next season?

No, put a 3 year deal in front of him and give him and his family the certainty to make a deal with us too hard to refuse. My reasoning is at his age most clubs may be able to outbid us in the short term but they will only be willing to offer him a 2 year deal. But if you can’t tell he’s easily got what it takes to play in the A league until he’s 35, then imo you don’t deserve a player of his quality.

 

[priorpeter]

Knowing where the “Duric is too old” rumour originated, I wouldn’t put too much stock into it.

 

[shipwreck]

Duric got a standing ovation and he is one of the few players we have had over the last few years that other teams and commentators are genuinely envious of.

 

[bikinigirl]

Knowing where the “Duric is too old” rumour originated, I wouldn’t put too much stock into it.

. do you know who was involved in the original discussion ... or only know who overheard it?