Mariners Squad - 2019-2020

[pjennings]

Ryan Kitto is not getting the game time he wants at Adelaide.

 

[turbo]

Contracted for two seasons beyond this one though, only done in October this year too.

 

[pjennings]

Contracted for two seasons beyond this one though, only done in October this year too.

I thought he was up in June

 

[turbo]

That's not to say they wouldn't be willing to cut him loose if they would rather use the funds elsewhere or feel they have a youth talent they want to develop for that spot it's just not something I'd be counting on. But perhaps Vujica (also a year left to run) might be more likely to become available. He hasnt played a minute and now looks to have dropped off the bench for a few weeks.

An old link but some quotes have aged like milk: https://www.a-league.com.au/news/signing-news-vujica-joins-western-united
The talented fullback – who has represented Australia and Croatia at youth level – played 48 times for the Jets but left in search of guaranteed game time.
“Ivan is an integral element for our defence,” Rudan said of his latest signing

 

[Tim]

I find the “Milan is too old” line a bit difficult to stomach. Perhaps he’s more prone to injury than anticipated by the club but the age reasoning is ridiculous. Anton was around when we signed him and he’s only be a few months older now....

Maybe he’s in demand and we, simply, can’t compete? Such a shame if we lose him after losing Tommy H last season...

 

[midfielder]

That Clisby makes the odd mistake will insure his is attacked many times during a match. Further we have conceded many times down his side adds more pressure for other teams to attack him...

This creates two different mind sets, first in the attacking team plays with confidence that they can get around him... us as defenders feel we need to cover for him often leaving gaps for other players...

Defence is cruel, make one or two mistakes per game and you are a burden, a striker does one or two things right and they are a hero...

His passing, and defence make him a difficult choice ... but if we put someone worst at left back we are cutting our own throat...

 

[Josho Howe]

How can anyone say Milan is too old at 32? A prime footballers years are (imo) 27-32. He's got at least 3-4 years left in his career. Baffling.

 

[finally retired]

His passing, and defence make him a difficult choice ... but if we put someone worst at left back we are cutting our own throat...

it is fairly obvious Staj doesn't believe we have anyone better....otherwise I'm positive he'd have them playing, more's the pity. we can pray there is an option in the January window.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

it is fairly obvious Staj doesn't believe we have anyone better....otherwise I'm positive he'd have them playing, more's the pity. we can pray there is an option in the January window.

It's a shame that we do have somebody better.
But, we've been over this. We'd all love to know why Staj has thrown the team's best left back in the trash.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

How can anyone say Milan is too old at 32? A prime footballers years are (imo) 27-32. He's got at least 3-4 years left in his career. Baffling.

I suspect there are negotiations and lots of positioning going on. About time we had someone who can call agents bluffs and respond to ambit claims.

 

[FFC Mariner]

it is fairly obvious Staj doesn't believe we have anyone better....otherwise I'm positive he'd have them playing, more's the pity. we can pray there is an option in the January window.

The same Staj who though Simon was the striker we needed? He is reluctant to change and seems to stick with whats already there. Hatch is at least as good a player as Lewis Miller and isnt Clisby.

 

[finally retired]

It's a shame that we do have somebody better.
But, we've been over this. We'd all love to know why Staj has thrown the team's best left back in the trash.

perhaps Clisby has incriminating pictures?

 

[Ozhammer]

The same Staj who though Simon was the striker we needed? He is reluctant to change and seems to stick with whats already there. Hatch is at least as good a player as Lewis Miller and isnt Clisby.

I know it’s dangerous to judge in isolation but Hatch had a very ordinary game against the Jest Youth on Tuesday and Staj was there, so he would have seen it for himself.

I am pretty confident that Oar simply comes back in to replace Clisby at LWB this weekend, assuming he has recovered sufficiently.

I also spoke to SS at that game and he was hopeful of being back in training by the back end of this week, so fingers crossed there.

 

[jacobsfl]

If Fabio Quagliarella isn't too old, Milan Duric definitely bloody isn't

 

[Michael]

If Anton thinks Milan, at 32, is too old. A bloke who is a consensus one of the signings of the season (the opinion of fans of other clubs not just us) then I heavily question his football brain and I worry about things going forward.
If you’re a decision maker at the club and can’t see the most obvious thing to do right now is adding at least 2 years to Milan’s contract, please don’t be a decision maker.

 

[shipwreck]

If Anton thinks Milan, at 32, is too old. A bloke who is a consensus one of the signings of the season (the opinion of fans of other clubs not just us) then I heavily question his football brain and I worry about things going forward.
If you’re a decision maker at the club and can’t see the most obvious thing to do right now is adding at least 2 years to Milan’s contract, please don’t be a decision maker.

This.
Not unlike the Hiariej decision....

 

[FFC Mariner]

They want cheap kids they believe they can sell for a profit.

 

[bikinigirl]

This.
Not unlike the Hiariej decision....

. i think the scenarios are quite similar:

• niggling, perhaps persistent injuries rather than the implied 'injury prone'
• older ... though not exactly old
• relatively expensive ... in Mariners dollars
• talent, fan favourite - puts upward pressure on contract negotiations ... not the Mariners way, is it

. maybe it is expectation management, maybe it is a negotiation tactic ... either way, it's not endearing to the fanbase

 

[bikinigirl]

They want cheap kids they believe they can sell for a profit.

. well, yeah

... but they continue to go through the process of finding foreign 'gems' only to watch them leave year-after-year. it's no good for the club and it's no good for making those kids marketable ... i think in the jingoistic catch-phrases our owner and management would be familiar, it is a 'lose-lose'

 

[Josho Howe]

A great example of correct overseas scouting is Ninkovic. Serb international, great career at Dynamo Kyiv, comes over here and dominates. He's not as good now as when he first got here, but at the end of his deal, will have spent 6 years at the bling.

I get the financial situation is in completely different stratospheres, but we should be aiming to bring above average foreigners over here who are willing to stay here not just for 2 years, but 3 and 4. I believe Tommy H wanted to stay but was told he wasn't needed. Imagine him and Djuric in midfield this season? Would have been close to the best pivot in the league.

Money is always the concern at this club and it's tiring. We need to be competing and a lacklustre budget produces predictable results.