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Mariners identity. Who are we? What do we represent?
- Thread starter Elastico
- Start date
yellowcake
Well-Known Member
This.
As of last night, the Mariners have achieved an incredible SIX top 3 results in the 9 A-League seasons played. Two more than any of our big city rivals!
And amazingly, have only been out of the top 4 twice.
But I love 'em, as I have since day one, because they represent... they are: the Central Coast.
Gratis
Well-Known Member
Cheers Simon :
http://perthnow.com.au/sport/footba...d-deserve-praise/story-fnk6rl6f-1226891509221
Simon Says: Central Coast Mariners
are A-League’s most authentic team
and deserve praise
ARE the Mariners the most authentic team in the
Hyundai A-League?
At a time when the football snobberati are
obsessed with debating style and identity - tricky
concepts when dealing with nine year-old clubs,
set up in haste as franchises - I reckon there’s a
fair case to make that argument.
Central Coast is the smallest market in the
competition, a working class area without much
pretence. There’s precious little bling about
Budgewoi, and no tugging of the forelock in
Tuggerah.
Yet despite their modest resources, time and
again the Mariners finish near the top (in the last
four years they have finished 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 2nd),
and are prepared to do whatever it takes to
maintain their proud record of having competed in
more finals series than any other club.
Saturday was a classic case in point. A team
almost stripped bare after last seasons grand
final, ground out a result against a much-fancied
Adelaide side which had no answers to Gosford’s
version of catenaccio - despite Josep Gombau’s
tinkering with both his line-up, and his tactics.
Yet as soon as the final whistle sounded, the
moaning started about “anti-football.”
But who is to say what is the right kind of
football?
SEMI FINALS
Western Sydney Wanderers v Central Coast
Mariners
Pirtek Stadium, Saturday 26 April, 6.30pm (EST),
Fox Sports 3
Brisbane Roar v Melbourne Victory
Suncorp Stadium Sunday 27 April, 5pm (EST),
Fox Sports 2
The problem with the style council, is that the
only “philosophy” (to use the current buzzword)
they think is valid, is the one they prefer. All
others are to be rejected as somehow impure.
That’s not football debate - that’s dogmatic
hectoring.
In actual fact, Phil Moss’s team played a similar
counter-attacking style (based upon a rock-solid
defence) against Brisbane the week before, and
won in brilliant, swashbuckling fashion. The
difference against Adelaide, was that their
execution in transition was nowhere near as
good. In other words, they were slightly off their
game. It happens.
As it happens, so too were Adelaide. Despite
having the lions share of the ball, they failed to
trouble Liam Reddy at all until Bruce Djite arrived
off the bench. The Mariners game plan provided a
classic example of why the terminology of the
rewritten national curriculum was switched from
“possession” to “effective possession.”
By denying space in behind, the Mariners forced
turnover after turnover - and with the pace of
Bernie Ibini, plus the purposeful running of Mitch
Duke and Storm Roux, they were able to counter
quickly, and effectively.Their possession -
especially the preceding week against Brisbane -
was therefore, far more effective than their
opponents.
That Moss has managed to fashion a team so
brilliantly organised and capable of beating the
best teams in the land, is a tribute to how quickly
he has found his feet as a coach. There is more
than one way to win a football game - it’s up to
other teams to find a way of counteracting it.
Ah, I hear you cry - but what about the fans?
They won’t turn up to watch that sort of football!
Perhaps. But what is Moss supposed to do? Man
for man, Adelaide was probably superior, so he
adopted a system that played to his teams
strengths. If the Mariners still had the likes of
Rogic, McGlinchey and Sainsbury, then maybe he
could have tried to “out-football” the Reds - but
they don’t.
Furthermore, if we insist that we can only watch
a league where a team is only “worth watching” if
they play in a certain way, then not only will we
have a dull competition, but we will not breed the
sort of tribalism amongst fans that the A-League
needs to survive long term.
The truth of the matter is, that football teams go
in cycles. Sometimes they play one style,
sometimes another.
It’s largely dependent upon the cattle they have
at their disposal, and what the coach can get out
of them, especially in a salary-capped league,
where teams regularly haemorrhage their best
talents . It’s no easy feat to stay competitive and
keep your supporters (not anyone else’s) onside.
In that sense, the Mariners are the real deal. They
know who they are, what they represent, and,
most importantly, how to go about getting the
best possible results. They do it year after year.
That sort of style never goes out of fashion.
http://perthnow.com.au/sport/footba...d-deserve-praise/story-fnk6rl6f-1226891509221
Simon Says: Central Coast Mariners
are A-League’s most authentic team
and deserve praise
ARE the Mariners the most authentic team in the
Hyundai A-League?
At a time when the football snobberati are
obsessed with debating style and identity - tricky
concepts when dealing with nine year-old clubs,
set up in haste as franchises - I reckon there’s a
fair case to make that argument.
Central Coast is the smallest market in the
competition, a working class area without much
pretence. There’s precious little bling about
Budgewoi, and no tugging of the forelock in
Tuggerah.
Yet despite their modest resources, time and
again the Mariners finish near the top (in the last
four years they have finished 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 2nd),
and are prepared to do whatever it takes to
maintain their proud record of having competed in
more finals series than any other club.
Saturday was a classic case in point. A team
almost stripped bare after last seasons grand
final, ground out a result against a much-fancied
Adelaide side which had no answers to Gosford’s
version of catenaccio - despite Josep Gombau’s
tinkering with both his line-up, and his tactics.
Yet as soon as the final whistle sounded, the
moaning started about “anti-football.”
But who is to say what is the right kind of
football?
SEMI FINALS
Western Sydney Wanderers v Central Coast
Mariners
Pirtek Stadium, Saturday 26 April, 6.30pm (EST),
Fox Sports 3
Brisbane Roar v Melbourne Victory
Suncorp Stadium Sunday 27 April, 5pm (EST),
Fox Sports 2
The problem with the style council, is that the
only “philosophy” (to use the current buzzword)
they think is valid, is the one they prefer. All
others are to be rejected as somehow impure.
That’s not football debate - that’s dogmatic
hectoring.
In actual fact, Phil Moss’s team played a similar
counter-attacking style (based upon a rock-solid
defence) against Brisbane the week before, and
won in brilliant, swashbuckling fashion. The
difference against Adelaide, was that their
execution in transition was nowhere near as
good. In other words, they were slightly off their
game. It happens.
As it happens, so too were Adelaide. Despite
having the lions share of the ball, they failed to
trouble Liam Reddy at all until Bruce Djite arrived
off the bench. The Mariners game plan provided a
classic example of why the terminology of the
rewritten national curriculum was switched from
“possession” to “effective possession.”
By denying space in behind, the Mariners forced
turnover after turnover - and with the pace of
Bernie Ibini, plus the purposeful running of Mitch
Duke and Storm Roux, they were able to counter
quickly, and effectively.Their possession -
especially the preceding week against Brisbane -
was therefore, far more effective than their
opponents.
That Moss has managed to fashion a team so
brilliantly organised and capable of beating the
best teams in the land, is a tribute to how quickly
he has found his feet as a coach. There is more
than one way to win a football game - it’s up to
other teams to find a way of counteracting it.
Ah, I hear you cry - but what about the fans?
They won’t turn up to watch that sort of football!
Perhaps. But what is Moss supposed to do? Man
for man, Adelaide was probably superior, so he
adopted a system that played to his teams
strengths. If the Mariners still had the likes of
Rogic, McGlinchey and Sainsbury, then maybe he
could have tried to “out-football” the Reds - but
they don’t.
Furthermore, if we insist that we can only watch
a league where a team is only “worth watching” if
they play in a certain way, then not only will we
have a dull competition, but we will not breed the
sort of tribalism amongst fans that the A-League
needs to survive long term.
The truth of the matter is, that football teams go
in cycles. Sometimes they play one style,
sometimes another.
It’s largely dependent upon the cattle they have
at their disposal, and what the coach can get out
of them, especially in a salary-capped league,
where teams regularly haemorrhage their best
talents . It’s no easy feat to stay competitive and
keep your supporters (not anyone else’s) onside.
In that sense, the Mariners are the real deal. They
know who they are, what they represent, and,
most importantly, how to go about getting the
best possible results. They do it year after year.
That sort of style never goes out of fashion.
MagpieMariner
Well-Known Member
Gratis
Well-Known Member
this
MrCelery
Well-Known Member
Yeah it was the effort that was missing early that prob pissed off people more than loosing although we were horrible.
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