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Mariners identity. Who are we? What do we represent?
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- Start date
Atomic
Well-Known Member
Brilliant!
sydmariner
Well-Known Member
i've seen some kid in bay 16 who plays a cowbell sometimes
Wombat
Well-Known Member
was going to "like" that your wife is easily pleased, but decided it was inappropriate
Lol.
Also decided the same.
Gratis
Well-Known Member
Let's get 2 of the new guys opinions -
1. Liam Reddy: “People joke about the number of clubs I’ve been at in
the A-League and I can honestly say that I fit in here
the best. There’s a great culture that’s driven by the
senior group and it’s a great place to come and work
every day.
“I know I keep saying it but the culture at this club is
very good — from Mossy and the coaching staff, the
senior boys, everyone’s on the one page.
“We have a recovery session and then go for breakfast —
you won’t get three or four blokes going but 15 or 16,
the only ones who don’t are those who had to train
early as they didn’t play.”
2. Eddy Bosnar: “That’s the culture here – no one complains about the long trip, the pitches, and whatever else we get dealt. We’re just looking forward to Wednesday.”
“The boys have been fantastic. It’s the first time I
have played in the A-League and I feel like I have
been here for ten years now. The younger boys really
respect the older boys, so I am glad that I have been
taken in like a player that’s been here for a long
time.”
1. Liam Reddy: “People joke about the number of clubs I’ve been at in
the A-League and I can honestly say that I fit in here
the best. There’s a great culture that’s driven by the
senior group and it’s a great place to come and work
every day.
“I know I keep saying it but the culture at this club is
very good — from Mossy and the coaching staff, the
senior boys, everyone’s on the one page.
“We have a recovery session and then go for breakfast —
you won’t get three or four blokes going but 15 or 16,
the only ones who don’t are those who had to train
early as they didn’t play.”
2. Eddy Bosnar: “That’s the culture here – no one complains about the long trip, the pitches, and whatever else we get dealt. We’re just looking forward to Wednesday.”
“The boys have been fantastic. It’s the first time I
have played in the A-League and I feel like I have
been here for ten years now. The younger boys really
respect the older boys, so I am glad that I have been
taken in like a player that’s been here for a long
time.”
Tassiemariner
Well-Known Member
We represent success.
(Ignoring the non-111 games played clubs) Most wins, least defeats, least goals conceded, best goal difference.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/features/sage-advice-glory-seeking-tony
http://images.cdn.fourfourtwo.com/s...yles/inline-image/public/table2edit.jpg?itok=
(Ignoring the non-111 games played clubs) Most wins, least defeats, least goals conceded, best goal difference.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/features/sage-advice-glory-seeking-tony
http://images.cdn.fourfourtwo.com/s...yles/inline-image/public/table2edit.jpg?itok=
We represent success.
(Ignoring the non-111 games played clubs) Most wins, least defeats, least goals conceded, best goal difference.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/features/sage-advice-glory-seeking-tony
http://images.cdn.fourfourtwo.com/s...yles/inline-image/public/table2edit.jpg?itok=
Should be a 10 yr anniversary TIFO for 1st home game next year.
10 Yrs & counting.
Still here
Still the best
Chart + possibly include the points chart from the article as well.
Then for the Derby highlighting Newcastle are the worst foundation member
Lets add a 3rd - We stand for opportunity.
“I owe a lot to (Mariners) boss Phil Moss, he’s the only person who’s given me an opportunity in the A-League,” Trifiro said. “To score at the weekend (against Newcastle) was a bit of a reward for working hard, I felt.
“Really I just want to make the most of every minute I get.
“Now I’ve come from a part-time environment to playing two games a week plus all the travel, and it’s a lot easier to come into a team with such a good structure and such a good environment.”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-acl-performance/story-fni2fopz-1226858572453
eenfish
Well-Known Member
Opportunities ahoy!
Reddy? Reject, drunk, uncontrolled temper, nobody wants him… now he has been one of our best performers and has the potential of getting goalkeeper of the year in my opinion.
Sim? Never got the chance, state league player, getting a bit long in the tooth for an A-League debut, gets the chance anyway and shows the desire of a man who appreciates the shot he has been given. If we don't keep him then someone else will most certainly want him.
Trifiro? Same story, never gotten his chance, possibly past it, finally gets the chance and shows the fire and desire of a man willing to fight for it, gets a goal in a derby to seal a victory.
We've given young boys opportunities to show themselves on the A-League stage too and given them opportunities to move abroad even at the detriment of the club (Beauchamp, Jedi, Wilko, Simon, Musty, Tommy, Maty, Bernie, Rostyn, to name a few). We gave a guy who was being blamed for the Socceroos loss at the Asian cup and being rubbished by everyone the chance at a top Aussie gig and he left three years later with two trophies one of the winningest coaches in A-League history. We're the opportunity club!
Reddy? Reject, drunk, uncontrolled temper, nobody wants him… now he has been one of our best performers and has the potential of getting goalkeeper of the year in my opinion.
Sim? Never got the chance, state league player, getting a bit long in the tooth for an A-League debut, gets the chance anyway and shows the desire of a man who appreciates the shot he has been given. If we don't keep him then someone else will most certainly want him.
Trifiro? Same story, never gotten his chance, possibly past it, finally gets the chance and shows the fire and desire of a man willing to fight for it, gets a goal in a derby to seal a victory.
We've given young boys opportunities to show themselves on the A-League stage too and given them opportunities to move abroad even at the detriment of the club (Beauchamp, Jedi, Wilko, Simon, Musty, Tommy, Maty, Bernie, Rostyn, to name a few). We gave a guy who was being blamed for the Socceroos loss at the Asian cup and being rubbished by everyone the chance at a top Aussie gig and he left three years later with two trophies one of the winningest coaches in A-League history. We're the opportunity club!
Gratis
Well-Known Member
from smh:
Mariners keep on keepin' on
By MICHAEL LYNCH
The Central Coast Mariners must surely be
the A-League’s equivalent of the little engine
that could.
In the children’s book, the little engine is the
one that succeeds in pulling the long train of
coaches over the mountain when all the
bigger, more powerful engines have failed.
Its pluck, courage and self-belief are
characterised by its incantation, ''I think I
can, I think I can'', the phrase it repeats to
itself as it struggles towards the summit,
straining and pulling despite all the signs
indicating that such a task is beyond it.
The Mariners seem to pull off a similar feat
nearly every season, defying expectations
and the doomsayers to make themselves a
constant threat.
Their gutsy win over Melbourne Heart on
Sunday just two days after arriving back in
the country from an Asian Champions League
match keeps them right in the finals mix.
With 36 points from their 24 games they sit
in fourth spot on a tightly congested ladder.
They could finish as high as second, or they
could miss out on the finals completely, such
is the competitive nature of the A-League. But
history suggests that their togetherness,
fighting spirit and ability to get a result when
few expect it will give them a chance to at
least defend the title they won last year, a
long overdue and much deserved reward for
the club’s consistency since the A-League’s
inception.
Their provincial status means they have a
much smaller potential target market of fans
to draw on, so their average crowd of around
9000 this season might look poor but, on a
per capita basis, is not too bad considering
the population base in which they operate.
The club is always praised for its community
spirit and involvement, yet there always seem
to be stories casting doubt on its long-term
viability and whether it will be able to stay in
Gosford or not.
Its constant search for investors is a long-
running theme in the football media, while
there are frequent proposals to play several
games a season at other locations to build the
fan base further and generate more money.
It can’t be easy to work against such a
backdrop of uncertainty, but the Mariners'
football department is able to shut out the
distractions and continue to get results, first
under Lawrie McKinna, its inaugural A-
League coach, then under Graham Arnold,
now in Japan, and currently with Arnold’s
former assistant, Phil Moss, at the helm.
Its record as a nursery for future
professionals cannot be gainsaid. Every year,
the Mariners grow and develop a successful
side, and – with the regularity of an autumn
harvest – come March, April and May, the
picks of the crop are plucked and bought by
other clubs, usually overseas.
The club has generated talents such as
Socceroo goalkeeper Matty Ryan, who left for
Club Brugge after helping the Mariners win
the title last season, and recent international
debutant Alex Wilkinson, who now plays in
South Korea.
Not to mention Australia captain Mile
Jedinak, a player who got his chance at the
Mariners in the early days of the A-League
when no other club would give him a deal.
Jedinak has since gone on to lead Crystal
Palace into the English Premier League as
well as captain his country – a testament to
McKinna’s vision and faith and the nurturing
environment in Gosford.
Others to have shone in the yellow and blue
include Tom Rogic, Trent Sainsbury and
Oliver Bozanic, another in international
contention.
Rogic, like Jedinak, was given his chance to
excel on the Central Coast when he emerged
as a prodigious talent a couple of years ago.
Rogic is widely expected to be part of the
national squad for the World Cup in Brazil
and has the skill and technical ability to be a
Socceroo mainstay for several years if he can
add consistency to his undoubted ability.
Sainsbury, who was sold to Dutch Eredivise
side FC Zwolle earlier this year, is another
who has been touted as a future Socceroo and
a chance to make the World Cup squad if he
recovers from injury in time.
Of course, the development and sale of these
players makes money for the Mariners, but it
does make it difficult to build continuity on
the field.
Of the starting eleven who won the grand
final against Western Sydney Wanderers less
than a year ago, seven are no longer with the
club and only two – Josh Rose and Mile
Sterjovski – lined up in the starting eleven
against Heart on Sunday.
That hasn’t stopped Moss’s men from getting
on with the job, however, relying on their
default characteristics of self-belief,
organisation and spirit to come out on top.
“The way we finished over the top of them
showed we are in great shape, and I couldn’t
be happier with the solidarity, belief,
courage, mental strength and physical
stamina we showed today,” Moss said after
that game, summing up the Mariners' core
strengths in lucid, succinct fashion.
Mariners keep on keepin' on
By MICHAEL LYNCH
The Central Coast Mariners must surely be
the A-League’s equivalent of the little engine
that could.
In the children’s book, the little engine is the
one that succeeds in pulling the long train of
coaches over the mountain when all the
bigger, more powerful engines have failed.
Its pluck, courage and self-belief are
characterised by its incantation, ''I think I
can, I think I can'', the phrase it repeats to
itself as it struggles towards the summit,
straining and pulling despite all the signs
indicating that such a task is beyond it.
The Mariners seem to pull off a similar feat
nearly every season, defying expectations
and the doomsayers to make themselves a
constant threat.
Their gutsy win over Melbourne Heart on
Sunday just two days after arriving back in
the country from an Asian Champions League
match keeps them right in the finals mix.
With 36 points from their 24 games they sit
in fourth spot on a tightly congested ladder.
They could finish as high as second, or they
could miss out on the finals completely, such
is the competitive nature of the A-League. But
history suggests that their togetherness,
fighting spirit and ability to get a result when
few expect it will give them a chance to at
least defend the title they won last year, a
long overdue and much deserved reward for
the club’s consistency since the A-League’s
inception.
Their provincial status means they have a
much smaller potential target market of fans
to draw on, so their average crowd of around
9000 this season might look poor but, on a
per capita basis, is not too bad considering
the population base in which they operate.
The club is always praised for its community
spirit and involvement, yet there always seem
to be stories casting doubt on its long-term
viability and whether it will be able to stay in
Gosford or not.
Its constant search for investors is a long-
running theme in the football media, while
there are frequent proposals to play several
games a season at other locations to build the
fan base further and generate more money.
It can’t be easy to work against such a
backdrop of uncertainty, but the Mariners'
football department is able to shut out the
distractions and continue to get results, first
under Lawrie McKinna, its inaugural A-
League coach, then under Graham Arnold,
now in Japan, and currently with Arnold’s
former assistant, Phil Moss, at the helm.
Its record as a nursery for future
professionals cannot be gainsaid. Every year,
the Mariners grow and develop a successful
side, and – with the regularity of an autumn
harvest – come March, April and May, the
picks of the crop are plucked and bought by
other clubs, usually overseas.
The club has generated talents such as
Socceroo goalkeeper Matty Ryan, who left for
Club Brugge after helping the Mariners win
the title last season, and recent international
debutant Alex Wilkinson, who now plays in
South Korea.
Not to mention Australia captain Mile
Jedinak, a player who got his chance at the
Mariners in the early days of the A-League
when no other club would give him a deal.
Jedinak has since gone on to lead Crystal
Palace into the English Premier League as
well as captain his country – a testament to
McKinna’s vision and faith and the nurturing
environment in Gosford.
Others to have shone in the yellow and blue
include Tom Rogic, Trent Sainsbury and
Oliver Bozanic, another in international
contention.
Rogic, like Jedinak, was given his chance to
excel on the Central Coast when he emerged
as a prodigious talent a couple of years ago.
Rogic is widely expected to be part of the
national squad for the World Cup in Brazil
and has the skill and technical ability to be a
Socceroo mainstay for several years if he can
add consistency to his undoubted ability.
Sainsbury, who was sold to Dutch Eredivise
side FC Zwolle earlier this year, is another
who has been touted as a future Socceroo and
a chance to make the World Cup squad if he
recovers from injury in time.
Of course, the development and sale of these
players makes money for the Mariners, but it
does make it difficult to build continuity on
the field.
Of the starting eleven who won the grand
final against Western Sydney Wanderers less
than a year ago, seven are no longer with the
club and only two – Josh Rose and Mile
Sterjovski – lined up in the starting eleven
against Heart on Sunday.
That hasn’t stopped Moss’s men from getting
on with the job, however, relying on their
default characteristics of self-belief,
organisation and spirit to come out on top.
“The way we finished over the top of them
showed we are in great shape, and I couldn’t
be happier with the solidarity, belief,
courage, mental strength and physical
stamina we showed today,” Moss said after
that game, summing up the Mariners' core
strengths in lucid, succinct fashion.
LFCMariners
Well-Known Member
I don't mean to be Devil's Advocate, but haven't the Roar overtaken us?We represent success.
(Ignoring the non-111 games played clubs) Most wins, least defeats, least goals conceded, best goal difference.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/features/sage-advice-glory-seeking-tony
http://images.cdn.fourfourtwo.com/s...yles/inline-image/public/table2edit.jpg?itok=
Tassiemariner
Well-Known Member
In what way?
The article is only from 2 weeks ago so assuming the stats are up to date as of then, no?
dibo
Well-Known Member
http://www.ultimatealeague.com/standings.php?season=all
Counting all seasons and excluding finals matches (in other words, doing a comprehensive like-with-like comparison), Roar are ahead on
Counting all seasons and excluding finals matches (in other words, doing a comprehensive like-with-like comparison), Roar are ahead on
- points (351 to 346)
- wins (98 to 95)
- goals scored (326 to 320 - both behind MV on 345)
- goals conceded (241 to 249)
- goal difference (85 to 71).
- losses (63 to 64)
Tassiemariner
Well-Known Member
In terms of titles between the two clubs
Premiers - 2 each
Champions - 2 to 1 to Roar (3 runners-ups to CCM)
Qualified for finals - 7 vs 6 to CCM
NYL - 0 titles season (2 Regular seasons to CCM)
W-league - 2 premiers and 2 GF's to Roar
The debate heading into the historic 10th season as to "Who is the best team in the decade" is Vvery tight between the 2 with only Victory getting anywhere near close.
Premiers - 2 each
Champions - 2 to 1 to Roar (3 runners-ups to CCM)
Qualified for finals - 7 vs 6 to CCM
NYL - 0 titles season (2 Regular seasons to CCM)
W-league - 2 premiers and 2 GF's to Roar
The debate heading into the historic 10th season as to "Who is the best team in the decade" is Vvery tight between the 2 with only Victory getting anywhere near close.
eenfish
Well-Known Member
Aye, doesn't Sydney FC also have 2 titles? Ergo, if they can win a third championship or do the double, shouldn't they be in contention? Devil's advocate, of course.
Sydney FC don't deserve to be in the conversation due to horrendous lack of consistency.
Victory don't deserve to be in the conversation due to patchiness as well, but at least they always came back from when they were shite.
Brisbane started slow, were a very average side for quite some time before Ange took them to the top.
Although we have been chronic chokers, our consistency in performance and vision despite economic disadvantages should really chuck us up there.
Of course, if WSW win the toilet seat this year then you'll have the Daily Telegraph saying the A-League wasn't a real league till they came along and they were what the league came alive and are the only option for best team of the decade.
Sydney FC don't deserve to be in the conversation due to horrendous lack of consistency.
Victory don't deserve to be in the conversation due to patchiness as well, but at least they always came back from when they were shite.
Brisbane started slow, were a very average side for quite some time before Ange took them to the top.
Although we have been chronic chokers, our consistency in performance and vision despite economic disadvantages should really chuck us up there.
Of course, if WSW win the toilet seat this year then you'll have the Daily Telegraph saying the A-League wasn't a real league till they came along and they were what the league came alive and are the only option for best team of the decade.
Gratis
Well-Known Member
ROBBIE SLATER
THE SUNDAY TELEGRAPH
APRIL 05, 2014 7:00PM
They are the team that won’t stay down.
No matter what happens to the Central Coast
Mariners, they climb off the canvas, dust
themselves off and get on with winning.
It’s a special talent.
Tell me any other team in professional football
that could lose their goalkeeper, the league’s top
scorer, their coach, best defender and talisman, a
major signing and the creative midfield heartbeat
and do what the Mariners have done — both
domestically and overseas.
A month ago, people were writing off the Central
Coast. Critics were convinced the bubble had
burst, the magic had gone.
Those same people don’t understand the club
and the resilience developed through so many
lean years when they had nothing but each other.
While many clubs are built on the shifting sands
of marquee signings and cash-rich owners, the
Mariners have always been different.
Phil Moss has picked up where Graham Arnold
left off.
Spirit and culture are the bricks and mortar of
this club, always have been. Everyone buys into
the philosophy first established by Lawrie
McKinna. Graham Arnold built on it and now Phil
Moss is carrying on the tradition.
Another grand final is within reach and they are in
pole position to advance to the knockout phase
in the Asian Champions League.
From last year’s grand final side, goalkeeper Mat
Ryan, Pedj Bojic, Trent Sainsbury, Patrick
Zwaanswijk, Oli Bozanic, Michael McGlinchey and
Daniel McBreen are no longer there.
Argentine playmaker Marcos Flores was signed to
expand their attacking arsenal, but he needed a
knee reconstruction and hasn’t been sighted for
months.
Throw in Arnold’s early season departure to the
J-League and it would break the spirit of many
teams.
Yet here we are two weeks out from the finals
and the Mariners and Western Sydney Wanderers
loom as the most likely threat to deny Brisbane
Roar a premiership and championship double.
It’s a remarkable story.
However, the Mariners happily fly under the radar,
sandwiched between the two big Sydney clubs
and their arch-rivals at Newcastle.
It’s just the way they like it, going about their
business while others revel in the headlines and
spotlight.
No matter what setback is thrown their way, they
somehow find a way to be successful.
When McBreen, last season’s top goalscorer, left
during the transfer window, it was hard to
envisage where the goals would come from.
Easy. They spread the load and have set an A-
League record with the number of goalscorers this
season.
Moss has put his imprint on the team with mid-
season signings Kim Seung-Yong and Eddy
Bosnar. They have offered experience and
stability, especially during the Asian campaign.
And with the top-six format, another grand final
appearance is well within reach.
The mouse that roared are doing it again.
Brisbane might be the standout team, but the
Mariners will not beat themselves.
They have belief, passion and the power of being
the underdog.
It’s the perfect game plan for Moss and his
Mariners.
Brisbane and Wanderers beware.
THE SUNDAY TELEGRAPH
APRIL 05, 2014 7:00PM
They are the team that won’t stay down.
No matter what happens to the Central Coast
Mariners, they climb off the canvas, dust
themselves off and get on with winning.
It’s a special talent.
Tell me any other team in professional football
that could lose their goalkeeper, the league’s top
scorer, their coach, best defender and talisman, a
major signing and the creative midfield heartbeat
and do what the Mariners have done — both
domestically and overseas.
A month ago, people were writing off the Central
Coast. Critics were convinced the bubble had
burst, the magic had gone.
Those same people don’t understand the club
and the resilience developed through so many
lean years when they had nothing but each other.
While many clubs are built on the shifting sands
of marquee signings and cash-rich owners, the
Mariners have always been different.
Phil Moss has picked up where Graham Arnold
left off.
Spirit and culture are the bricks and mortar of
this club, always have been. Everyone buys into
the philosophy first established by Lawrie
McKinna. Graham Arnold built on it and now Phil
Moss is carrying on the tradition.
Another grand final is within reach and they are in
pole position to advance to the knockout phase
in the Asian Champions League.
From last year’s grand final side, goalkeeper Mat
Ryan, Pedj Bojic, Trent Sainsbury, Patrick
Zwaanswijk, Oli Bozanic, Michael McGlinchey and
Daniel McBreen are no longer there.
Argentine playmaker Marcos Flores was signed to
expand their attacking arsenal, but he needed a
knee reconstruction and hasn’t been sighted for
months.
Throw in Arnold’s early season departure to the
J-League and it would break the spirit of many
teams.
Yet here we are two weeks out from the finals
and the Mariners and Western Sydney Wanderers
loom as the most likely threat to deny Brisbane
Roar a premiership and championship double.
It’s a remarkable story.
However, the Mariners happily fly under the radar,
sandwiched between the two big Sydney clubs
and their arch-rivals at Newcastle.
It’s just the way they like it, going about their
business while others revel in the headlines and
spotlight.
No matter what setback is thrown their way, they
somehow find a way to be successful.
When McBreen, last season’s top goalscorer, left
during the transfer window, it was hard to
envisage where the goals would come from.
Easy. They spread the load and have set an A-
League record with the number of goalscorers this
season.
Moss has put his imprint on the team with mid-
season signings Kim Seung-Yong and Eddy
Bosnar. They have offered experience and
stability, especially during the Asian campaign.
And with the top-six format, another grand final
appearance is well within reach.
The mouse that roared are doing it again.
Brisbane might be the standout team, but the
Mariners will not beat themselves.
They have belief, passion and the power of being
the underdog.
It’s the perfect game plan for Moss and his
Mariners.
Brisbane and Wanderers beware.
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