Lyall Gorman on CoastFM

[clarence]

Jedinak and Simon are great examples of how a contract in sport should work.  You work hard to get one (Jedinak played for free for a few months), you recieve a contract, you continue to work hard and put in, recieve a upgraded contract as a reward for you performance, if you continue to work and perform you move on to greater things such as Europe or an international call up and get rewarded with a uograded contact.

Sorry I tend to disagree with the trail for free situation, even in sport.

The players view themselves as professionals, and they should be paid to trial over an extended period or if they are travelling to get to the trial.

It is a situation the club's can exploit - players would be reluctant to trial for other clubs in the same comp. while they were under trial with one club, and then they could get lead down the garden path before eventually being told they were not required.

Anyone who has kids just starting work will be aware of the Howard's Govt. leniency under their workplace laws that allowed employers to trial people - or at least the Govt. wasn't keen to stamp it out if it was an illegal practice.

I understand the frustration about Nik's contract extension, the fact he played so little and still managed to snap up an extension does point to a weakness in the contract negotiations and I suspect that's an area the Mariners may tighten up on in future after reading all of us groaning about the oxygen thief's good luck. Strangely, the Mariners also struck trouble with Gumps the season before last and some of that argument was over the Mariners not taking up an option to extend his contract.

 

[MARSHP1]

Not sure what the contract deal is with Mrjda, but you have to hope he can show what he is capable of if he can get in one injury free season. It's all been said before but maybe this'll be his year!

 

[FFC Mariner]

I hear the club have asked a potential youth player to trial with us for 2 months (for free). Tough ask for an 18yo kid from SW Sydney..........


May not be an issue as SFC are chasing him too (quite hard apparently........)

 

[Jazzie]

I hear the club have asked a potential youth player to trial with us for 2 months (for free). Tough ask for an 18yo kid from SW Sydney..........


May not be an issue as SFC are chasing him too (quite hard apparently........)

Geez, I know times are tough, but would you work for free for 2 months? Are the Mariners that poor? Sounds like they are taking advantage of a youngster ... or they don't really want him.

 

[clarence]

I hear the club have asked a potential youth player to trial with us for 2 months (for free). Tough ask for an 18yo kid from SW Sydney..........


May not be an issue as SFC are chasing him too (quite hard apparently........)

Geez, I know times are tough, but would you work for free for 2 months? Are the Mariners that poor? Sounds like they are taking advantage of a youngster ... or they don't really want him.

That's the sort of story that gets me annoyed...

At least pay the kid a minimum wage to trial for the 2 months. Something to pay for his out of pocket expenses. And what if he gets injured? Is he covered by the Mariners compensation insurance for the injury? Quite frankly if I was that kid's father and Sydney FC were only offering to pay for the travel expenses to and from Macquarie Uni or where ever they train, I'd be telling the Mariners to go and get stuffed.

 

[Jazzie]

I hear the club have asked a potential youth player to trial with us for 2 months (for free). Tough ask for an 18yo kid from SW Sydney..........


May not be an issue as SFC are chasing him too (quite hard apparently........)

Geez, I know times are tough, but would you work for free for 2 months? Are the Mariners that poor? Sounds like they are taking advantage of a youngster ... or they don't really want him.

That's the sort of story that gets me annoyed...

At least pay the kid a minimum wage to trial for the 2 months. Something to pay for his out of pocket expenses. And what if he gets injured? Is he covered by the Mariners compensation insurance for the injury? Quite frankly if I was that kid's father and Sydney FC were only offering to pay for the travel expenses to and from Macquarie Uni or where ever they train, I'd be telling the Mariners to go and get stuffed.

Sounds like something out of a Dickens novel.... not the sort of story you want floating around at present, or at anytime. Doesn't reflect well on the club at all.

 

[FFC Mariner]

He may well be getting out of pockets, I really dont know.

The point I was trying to illustrate is that we are often trying to pick up good juniors from under the nose of SFC and occasionally will have to take a punt - trialling to test their commitment is one thing - appearing indecisive is quite another

 

[tuftman]

He may well be getting out of pockets, I really dont know.

The point I was trying to illustrate is that we are often trying to pick up good juniors from under the nose of SFC and occasionally will have to take a punt - trialling to test their commitment is one thing - appearing indecisive is quite another

+1

I do hope for his sake he is getting out of pocket expenses at least, would be a but harsh not to

 

[mariners4ever]

I hear the club have asked a potential youth player to trial with us for 2 months (for free). Tough ask for an 18yo kid from SW Sydney..........


May not be an issue as SFC are chasing him too (quite hard apparently........)

Geez, I know times are tough, but would you work for free for 2 months? Are the Mariners that poor? Sounds like they are taking advantage of a youngster ... or they don't really want him.

well if i can recall correctly, they didnt pay matty simon or jedi whilst they were trialling

 

[Marquee]

I hear the club have asked a potential youth player to trial with us for 2 months (for free). Tough ask for an 18yo kid from SW Sydney..........


May not be an issue as SFC are chasing him too (quite hard apparently........)

Geez, I know times are tough, but would you work for free for 2 months? Are the Mariners that poor? Sounds like they are taking advantage of a youngster ... or they don't really want him.

well if i can recall correctly, they didnt pay matty simon or jedi whilst they were trialling

Quite sure that is correct as Matty gave Lawrie an ultimatum of sign me up or I'll go since he was on leave from work.

 

[Nik Mrdjas Disco Bikkie]

A trial is an oppurtunity for a player to earn a professional contract. Is there any club in the world that pays players to trial?

 

[kevrenor]

A trial is an oppurtunity for a player to earn a professional contract. Is there any club in the world that pays players to trial?

Trials do not go for two months

 

[Sean]

A trial is an oppurtunity for a player to earn a professional contract. Is there any club in the world that pays players to trial?

A trial is an oppurtunity for a player to earn a professional contract. Is there any club in the world that pays players to trial?

wherever it is, im going there to trial.

 

[bulldogmariner]

Lyall on ABC Central Coast this hour.

 

[dibo]

talkback?

EDIT - better idea. email ABC Central Coast on this link.

 

[bulldogmariner]

interview i think just heard Scott promote it before news.

 

[Ravana]

cant see if they stream it

 

[bulldogmariner]

on now

 

[Bex]

And??

 

[bulldogmariner]

Not much just talking about the games in Canberra and how this will benefit the region of the Central Coast not only football but tourism as well.
Also the facilities at the A.I.S in which the Mariners are using in Canberra.
Player turnover and the lose of Mile and why the Mariners did ok in the ACL.