Interesting stats - Breeze v Mariners

[marinermick]

Speaking of academic. I suggest that someone get one with appropriate statistical skills to analyse this data set.
I would bet that while at first glance the stats look interesting you will find they are of no significance.

Beware of "Grassy Knolls" :

we're not talking about double blind medical trials here though, just because it's not testable to .01 significance doesn't mean there's not a systematic problem here.

Nor does it indicate that there is a problem.

Cup of tea, a bex and a good lie down prescribed for all.

if anything just observation indicates there is a problem

i, for one, won't be lying down

 

[striker]

if anything just observation indicates there is a problem

i, for one, won't be lying down

we all observed there is a problem..... but what can we do post fact ?

give us an insight of your intentions...may be others can contribute etc.....

 

[FFC Mariner]

if anything just observation indicates there is a problem

i, for one, won't be lying down

we all observed there is a problem..... but what can we do post fact ?

give us an insight of your intentions...may be others can contribute etc.....

Please be mindful of our conspiracy laws lol

 

[marinermick]

if anything just observation indicates there is a problem

i, for one, won't be lying down

we all observed there is a problem..... but what can we do post fact ?

give us an insight of your intentions...may be others can contribute etc.....

i'll keep bleeting on about it to everyone who will listen

eventually someone in some position will take action

whether that be study the facts, lobby the FFA, scrutinise his performance more - i don't know

but "the squeaky wheel"

 

[Ursus]

Maybe someone from the FFA will investigate Green. 

He is obviously biased towards the Mariners, 4 wins and a draw.

If you look at the season as a whole, we are premiers therefore the referees must been biased towards mariners ;D

I suggest you try "60 Minutes", "A Current Affair" or the "Telegraph".

This "conspiracy" is right up their alley. 

 

[striker]

I don't think tabloid Tv will work....... Can you imagine Ana Coren investigating  a-league refs corruption?

 

[marinermick]

Speaking of academic. I suggest that someone get one with appropriate statistical skills to analyse this data set.
I would bet that while at first glance the stats look interesting you will find they are of no significance.

Beware of "Grassy Knolls" :

we're not talking about double blind medical trials here though, just because it's not testable to .01 significance doesn't mean there's not a systematic problem here.

Nor does it indicate that there is a problem.

Cup of tea, a bex and a good lie down prescribed for all.

there is enough of an indication of a problem that the Mariners are investiagting the issue and making approaches to the FFA for an explaination

should lawrie have a cup of tea, a bex and a lie down as well?

 

[dibo]

Speaking of academic. I suggest that someone get one with appropriate statistical skills to analyse this data set.
I would bet that while at first glance the stats look interesting you will find they are of no significance.

Beware of "Grassy Knolls" :

we're not talking about double blind medical trials here though, just because it's not testable to .01 significance doesn't mean there's not a systematic problem here.

Nor does it indicate that there is a problem.

Cup of tea, a bex and a good lie down prescribed for all.

my point was that were there a large enough dataset then you could run a test to see if there was a problem. there isn't enough here to run a test, and a test can't be run when the observed person knows what's going on. there's bugger all point in saying 'i'm sure there's nothing statistically significant there'.

there wouldn't be anything unless breeze was kneecapping every second mariners player each time we played. that *doesn't* mean there's no problem, and as mick said there is clearly a perception in mariners hq that there's a problem.

personally, i'm not sure there is a problem in terms of a systematic bias, there are just a few decisions that have gone down over the last month or so that i think were dodgy as all hell. we're not being screwed by some sort of conspiracy, more just being screwed by shitty officials. there's an important difference there, but either way we're getting screwed.

 

[Atomic]

I think we can all agree on one thing and that is the standard of refereeing is shite. Is there a bias against the Mariners? I'd like to think so but in reality there probably isn't. Let's face it, we're the good guys of the League 

It's important that the Mariners raise this issue in the Public Domain however. The refs are human (I think), and they read the media. The FFA wont be saying to it's officials to give us a break, but becasue everyone is aware that it is now an issue, we might find that one extra 50/50 call in a game might go our way that otherwise wouldn't.

 

[Ursus]

Speaking of academic. I suggest that someone get one with appropriate statistical skills to analyse this data set.
I would bet that while at first glance the stats look interesting you will find they are of no significance.

Beware of "Grassy Knolls" :

we're not talking about double blind medical trials here though, just because it's not testable to .01 significance doesn't mean there's not a systematic problem here.

Nor does it indicate that there is a problem.

Cup of tea, a bex and a good lie down prescribed for all.

there is enough of an indication of a problem that the Mariners are investiagting the issue and making approaches to the FFA for an explaination

should lawrie have a cup of tea, a bex and a lie down as well?

Yes.

 

[Ursus]

I think it is about time for a bit of common sense.

Breeze is not a great referee in my opinion, however he is ranked No 2 by the FFA, hence we will get him in games against other top sides in which we have not been performing greatly, lately. (sorry about that).

We are a very physical team (definitely not dirty, eg Muscat, Talay etc., but physical). Breeze hands out many cards for physical contacts (as does Shields).
QED or VIZ, I cannot remember which, (it has been a long time since I did any serious mathematics or latin).

Forget the conspiricies, we will just end up looking a bunch of whinging twats.

ps I thought Breeze made the adjustment for the semis and was very tolerant.

 

[marinermick]

no one sensible on this forum mentioned anything about conspiracies

all we mentioned is an obvious bias, for one reason or another against the Mariners, and both our observations and stastistical analysis (though not with a p>.05) point to that

 

[Ursus]

Conspiracy or bias, you are still barking up the wrong tree.

No one has addressed the question of favorable bias from Green yet. Why not ask the FFA to look into that?

Keep searching for the Bex.

 

[marinermick]

Conspiracy or bias, you are still barking up the wrong tree.

No one has addressed the question of favorable bias from Green yet. Why not ask the FFA to look into that?

Keep searching for the Bex.

the question is:

does any team have an unfavourable bias with green?

you are the one barking up the wrong tree

 

[Omni]

There's the issue of the fact that the Chairman of the FFA has a significant interest in Sydney FC and as such makes these criticisms easy to find, there is at the very least an apparent conflict of interest.